Official Trade Thread XX (6/22/12 - 12/13/12)

AFM · Post #1241 » by **AFM** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:00 am

Wizards Trade: Vesely
Wizards Receive: That fat hispanic dude who used to run out during the Chipotle Burrito Dash wearing a cape

Why? Wizards get rid of a huge bust and finally gain a real post presence. Chipotle Man's footwork, size, and explosive lateral agility all will help lock down the center position long after Nene retires.

Knighthonor · Post #1242 » by **Knighthonor** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:16 am

what can the Wizards trade to retain a next season lotto pick of at least 1 or 2, while holding on to Wall, KS, and maybe Nene...?

MF23 · Post #1243 » by **MF23** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:26 pm

Since Min has probably lost Roy for a long time if not the season I think they may need a sg. They don't seem to have a place for Derrick Williams and they could use a defensive presence in the front court.

Jordan Crawford and Jan Vessely

For

Derrick Williams.

The Wizards could use his scoring punch and I think it's fair considering what each player has produced in their careers.

Post #1244 » by **LyricalRico** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:11 pm

mhd wrote:Nene for Perkins+Thabo+Toronto Pick

Thunder pay an extra 1.5 million this year (Difference between Nene and Thabo+Perkins), 500k next year (Difference between Nene and Thabo+Perkins), 4 million year after (Difference between Nene and Perkins), and 13 million for Nene's last year.

Interesting for the Wiz, but I doubt OKC would sacrifice Harden because of the cap and then turn around and add Nene's contract. Especially when they give up Perkins in the deal, who seems to be a clear amnesty target to reduce their future cap number.

Post #1245 » by **LyricalRico** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:15 pm

MF23 wrote:Since Min has probably lost Roy for a long time if not the season I think they may need a sg. They don't seem to have a place for Derrick Williams and they could use a defensive presence in the front court.

Jamal Crawford and Jan Vessely

For

Derrick Williams.

The Wizards could use his scoring punch and I think it's fair considering what each player has produced in their careers.

Love it for us, but I don't think Minny does it. Vesely probably wouldn't play for them, and I'm not sure Crawford fits in with what Adelman wants to do on offense.

But once Rubio gets back, maybe Ariza+Booker for Williams and either Ridnour or Barea? If we're happy with Livingston, maybe route the Minny PG to another team in a 3-way? Do they need a backup C? What about Okafor+filler for a combination of some of their medium sized contracts? To the Checker!

truwizfan4evr · Post #1246 » by **truwizfan4evr** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:44 pm

Does anyone think Wall can make Derrick Williams better? Derrick Williams is a stretch 4 who can knock down shots then we have Beal at shooting guard and Nene, Kevin in the middle. I think that be a nice core. Can Derrick Williams play some small forward? Wall/Beal/Williams/Nene/Kevin be a nice starting five.

DaRealHibachi · Post #1247 » by **DaRealHibachi** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:10 pm

I'd take any chance I'd get to trade for DW if I was Ernie, even if it takes Vesely and Seraphin...

We need talent on this team; Ves is the exact opposite, and DW gets to the line more and rebounds better than Seraphin does...

Illuminaire · Post #1248 » by **Illuminaire** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:16 pm

I'm not sure I'd flip Seraphin for Williams. Scoring is overvalued, and I think Seraphin might gain quite a bit of trade value as the year goes on.

I'd definitely try to send Crawford and Vesely though, and I'd have no qualms working in Booker if that's what it took.

nuposse04 · Post #1249 » by **nuposse04** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:22 pm

I'd give Booker+Crawford+top 7 protected lottery pic '13+Ariza for D. Williams + w/e expiring they have. Ariza probably gives them a better option at SF then Howard.

TGW · Post #1250 » by **TGW** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:01 am

Trying to get Williams is a no-brainer, but I don't see the Wolves trading him for a prospect. They are trying to get good now, and would probably move Williams for a vet.

We'd probably have to offer Beal, who plays a position of weakness for them since Roy is about to retire.

SUPERBALLMAN · Post #1251 » by **SUPERBALLMAN** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:56 am

Illuminaire wrote:I'm not sure I'd flip Seraphin for Williams. Scoring is overvalued, and I think Seraphin might gain quite a bit of trade value as the year goes on.

I'd definitely try to send Crawford and Vesely though, and I'd have no qualms working in Booker if that's what it took.

Well according to the trade checker, almost any combination of Vesely, Crawford, Booker works for Williams. Vesely and Crawford, Vesely and Booker, or all three (Vesely, Booker, and Crawford). We have additional no cap assets in Preldzic and Satoransky that could be included.

I would do any of the above. Any more than that though I lose interest.

payitforward · Post #1252 » by **payitforward** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:05 am

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:
Illuminaire wrote:I'm not sure I'd flip Seraphin for Williams. Scoring is overvalued, and I think Seraphin might gain quite a bit of trade value as the year goes on.

I'd definitely try to send Crawford and Vesely though, and I'd have no qualms working in Booker if that's what it took.

Well according to the trade checker, almost any combination of Vesely, Crawford, Booker works for Williams. Vesely and Crawford, Vesely and Booker, or all three (Vesely, Booker, and Crawford). We have additional no cap assets in Preldzic and Satoransky that could be included.

I would do any of the above. Any more than that though I lose interest.

Here's a thought -- why don't we try to trade for a good player? I mean instead of Williams.

closg00 · Post #1253 » by **closg00** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:37 am

Josh Selby is languishing in Memphis, I wonder if we could get him...he makes less than $800,000.

AFM · Post #1254 » by **AFM** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:09 am

We could if we had a good GM. Kid can ball for sure. Just needs a chance.

Jay81 · Post #1255 » by **Jay81** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:20 pm

minnesota getting nothing from 2 top 4 picks (Derrick Willilams and Wesley Johnson)

dangermouse · Post #1256 » by **dangermouse** » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:50 pm

They had to give up a pick to move him even (Wesley).

Protected though.

Jajwanda · Post #1257 » by **Jajwanda** » Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:44 pm

Would you do Jodie Meeks for Jordan Crawford? Meeks has been turning it around ever since he got out of doo-doo Brown's rotation (early season stats skew his productivity). Meeks wouldn't block Beal and would be a nice backup that could help Washington's lack of 3 point shooting. Crawford fits next to Duhon on the Laker bench since he's more of a ball-dominant SG.

Post #1258 » by **LyricalRico** » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:27 pm

^ Works for me, Jajwanda.

Halcyon · Post #1259 » by **Halcyon** » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:54 pm

Jajwanda wrote:Would you do Jodie Meeks for Jordan Crawford? Meeks has been turning it around ever since he got out of doo-doo Brown's rotation (early season stats skew his productivity). Meeks wouldn't block Beal and would be a nice backup that could help Washington's lack of 3 point shooting. Crawford fits next to Duhon on the Laker bench since he's more of a ball-dominant SG.

Yes please.

Jajwanda · Post #1260 » by **Jajwanda** » Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:08 pm

What's Singleton's value? Why the hell is he playing the 4?