Official Trade Thread XX (6/22/12 - 12/13/12)

[montestewart]

Ariza is a bad shooter who does everything else on the floor at least decently. Ideally, he'd cut his usage from its current level (about 19% of the team's possessions while on the floor) to something closer to 10% (basically shooting layups and wide-open looks). At that point, his inefficiency would hurt a lot less and teams could use the rest of his contributions.

When Ariza was first with the Wizards in preseason and the first few games, he looked really lethargic, not just out of shape, but like he was in shock that he was playing for the Wizards. He seemed to recover pretty quickly and started to show his all around game. If Ariza drops his usage, his game looks a little closer to the Ariza of 2006-09, which was pretty good.

[dangermouse]

Man, the Kings really suck. Maybe they would trade Cousins.

[TGW]

Man, the Kings really suck. Maybe they would trade Cousins.

Cousins is a big reason why they suck. He's sloppy with the basketball, and is a piss poor defender. He does one thing well--rebound--and that's really about it. He's like Jordan Crawford on offense.

Any team that trades for this guy is just going to end up disappointed.

[nate33]

Man, the Kings really suck. Maybe they would trade Cousins.

Cousins is a big reason why they suck. He's sloppy with the basketball, and is a piss poor defender. He does one thing well--rebound--and that's really about it. He's like Jordan Crawford on offense.

Any team that trades for this guy is just going to end up disappointed.

Our team is in dire need of talent, and Cousins has talent. I'd definitely trade for him if the asking price wasn't too big. Something like Seraphin + Vesely for Cousins seems pretty reasonable to me. I'm not sure if Sacramento is ready to bail on Cousins just yet, but if they do, I'd be ready with that offer. I wouldn't give up a future 1st rounder for him unless there was protection. There's too much risk.

[Nivek]

Someone in Sacramento doesn't understand the concept of efficiency. Cousins has an astronomical usage rate despite a persistently low shooting percentage and high turnovers. He can rebound, but he shouldn't be a first option on offense. Consider: 259 players have at least 250 total minutes this season. Among those 259 players, Cousins has the 5th highest usage rate and ranks 215th in offensive rating (points produced per 100 possessions). Now in his third season, he needs to either boost his efficiency or reduce his usage.

The combination of high usage and low efficiency handicaps his team. He's still extremely young and might improve. But he's going to have to change SOMETHING if he wants to help a team win.

[Induveca]

I'd bring in Cousins, realize he'll bring the same vibe to DC THIS year, and draft a scorer at SF for next year. Between Beal/Wall's hopeful shooting improvement and a shooting SF it SHOULD reduce Cousins' desire to jack up shots.

[Nivek]

Cousins had a very high usage rate in college too. His 2pt% was actually on the low side for a big man, and he had a lot of turnovers. Sorta sounds familiar. Still, overall he was reasonably efficient at Kentucky. Man that was a BEAST on the boards in college.

Check out Wojo's piece on Kevin Love and the Twolves. Love pretty much lays out that he's unhappy, the exact reasons why, and how he plans to remember it when his contract comes up.

Anyone up for a Nene and Wall for Love and Roy deal?

Okafor and Wall for Love and Roy?

[Illuminaire]

........

I had to search my soul, but the answer is yes. I'd prefer to give up Okafor/Wall, then package Nene to the Clippers for Eric Bledsoe.

I would feel pretty darned good about a Bledsoe/Love/Beal/2013 top 5 core. (We had better finish the year tanking like bouses, lol)

[payitforward]

Cousins had a very high usage rate in college too. His 2pt% was actually on the low side for a big man, and he had a lot of turnovers. Sorta sounds familiar. Still, overall he was reasonably efficient at Kentucky. Man that was a BEAST on the boards in college.

Check out Wojo's piece on Kevin Love and the Twolves. Love pretty much lays out that he's unhappy, the exact reasons why, and how he plans to remember it when his contract comes up.

Anyone up for a Nene and Wall for Love and Roy deal?

Okafor and Wall for Love and Roy?

Either of those in a ny minute. Twice if possible.

[TGW]

Cousins had a very high usage rate in college too. His 2pt% was actually on the low side for a big man, and he had a lot of turnovers. Sorta sounds familiar. Still, overall he was reasonably efficient at Kentucky. Man that was a BEAST on the boards in college.

Check out Wojo's piece on Kevin Love and the Twolves. Love pretty much lays out that he's unhappy, the exact reasons why, and how he plans to remember it when his contract comes up.

Anyone up for a Nene and Wall for Love and Roy deal?

Okafor and Wall for Love and Roy?

I'm a Wall fan, but I'd be all over that. Kevin Love is a fantastic basketball player. Don't think they'd do it with Rubio in the picture, however.

[Illuminaire]

Khan is crazy like that though. He drafted Flynn, Rubio, AND Ty Lawson remember. He'll wheel and deal all day if they let him off his meds.

[nate33]

Okafor and Wall for Love and Roy?

I don't see Minnesota being particularly interested in Wall with Rubio already on the roster. It would have to involve a 3rd team.

Washington trades: Wall for Love
Other Team trades: Good Player for Wall
Minnesota trades: Love for Good Player

[Illuminaire]

I repeat: Khan is craaaaazy.

I'd also suggest that Minnesota could trade Rubio while receiving Wall. For all the hype, Rubio's production wasn't really that spectacular. Wall and Ricky's rookie years are very comparable, with a slight edge to Wall overall (imo).

[Severn Hoos]

Would you trade the pick this summer for Greg Monroe, if the Pistons are looking to promote Drummond by the end of the season? Would they do that trade? Would it matter if it was #1 or #5?

[nate33]

Would you trade the pick this summer for Greg Monroe, if the Pistons are looking to promote Drummond by the end of the season? Would they do that trade? Would it matter if it was #1 or #5?

I don't think so. For all the hype that Monroe gets, that Detroit team still sucks. He can't be THAT good.