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I love Beal's game. His ability to defend, rebound, pass...and his body language even when his shot isn't failing. Beal has played extremely well for a 19 year old, especially for a teenager being asked to play more minutes and carry a bigger load than the typical rookie. The comparisons to Ray Allen...even before he had played a single NBA game, raised unreasonable and unrealistic expectations of Beal's outside shooting, IMO.
I have no doubt that Beal's outside shooting will improve...considerably. He is a 19 year old with a 19 year old's body and 2 months of NBA experience, playing against bigger, stronger and more experienced players like Kobe, Wade and Harden. Let's not lose sight of that. Beal Is already showing signs of someday being one of the best all around SGs in the NBA.
I have no doubt that Beal's outside shooting will improve...considerably. He is a 19 year old with a 19 year old's body and 2 months of NBA experience, playing against bigger, stronger and more experienced players like Kobe, Wade and Harden. Let's not lose sight of that. Beal Is already showing signs of someday being one of the best all around SGs in the NBA.
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Halcyon wrote:Not only that, the good players on that list are better at getting into the lane and to the line. I think in order for Beal to be a scorer, he needs to improve that aspect if he isn't going to be a lights out shooter.
He ranks 12th in the league for SGs at FTA per game and he is a 19 year old rookie. That is not shabby given how early in the year it is and he is just getting started and he hasn't had a starting quality PG to play with.
Way to early to judge the kid to harshly. I would have rather they brought him off the bench given the line ups Randy has started him with, but it is what it is. He looked like he might be ready to hit another gear before he got hurt the other game. After that, he shots were short.
Well see what he looks like when they get him back out there with Crawford starting at PG again. I think the kid is going to start posting some impressive games.
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Jeez, some of you guys are really sipping the kool aid. It's obvious he isn't ready for this level and he has a lot of work to do. A lot. The Wizards organization has problems developing players and that's not good for Bradley Beal.
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Which player is better? Who should start?
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PLAYER PTS REB AST STL BLK TOV TS% Ortg PER
Player A 15.2 4.4 2.8 1.2 0.6 2.1 .471 95 11.8
Player B 15.1 5.3 0.8 1.3 0.4 1.1 .574 109 14.0
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nate33 wrote:Which player is better? Who should start?Code: Select all
PLAYER PTS REB AST STL BLK TOV TS% Ortg PER
Player A 15.2 4.4 2.8 1.2 0.6 2.1 .471 95 11.8
Player B 15.1 5.3 0.8 1.3 0.4 1.1 .574 109 14.0
I'd have no problem starting Cartier but it is clear that won't happen. The important thing is to minimize the amount of minutes Livingston plays.
I said before the season that Beal should come off the bench. Now i don't think it matters since this season is already tanktastic.
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Beal never should have been put in a position where he had to start. He should have been backing up Cartier or Ben Gordon or some other vet and been playing 20-25 minutes a night.
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nate33 wrote:Which player is better? Who should start?Code: Select all
PLAYER PTS REB AST STL BLK TOV TS% Ortg PER
Player A 15.2 4.4 2.8 1.2 0.6 2.1 .471 95 11.8
Player B 15.1 5.3 0.8 1.3 0.4 1.1 .574 109 14.0
Crawford with
Martin or Webster
should have started last game and they could have easily won.
Once Beal returns, at this point, I would go ahead and start him with Crawford again because they looked like they might be developing something.
Earlier in the year. Should have started Martin or Webster with Crawford. Beal wasn't ready.
Its been a train wreck of bad line ups all year.
Crawford ( Livingston sadly now but Price when ready again )
Webster or Martin ( now beal ) Martin wasn't really ready since they didn't play him in preseason.
Singleton ( Trevor A when he gets healthy again )
Kevin ( or Nene ), Ves
Barron with Okafor backing him up. Barron is 7-0 250. That would have helped Kevin.
Could have started that way and it could have stayed that way because all of those players are still healthy enough to play. Instead we have had 15 different line ups and only Crawford as PG for like 5 games.
This didn't need to be another TANK year. But it is now. Thanks Randy.
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fishercob wrote:Beal never should have been put in a position where he had to start. He should have been backing up Cartier or Ben Gordon or some other vet and been playing 20-25 minutes a night.
I agree. There's little reason to keep starting him. Both he and the team would likely benefit from taking some pressure off and letting Martin or Webster play a starting role.
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Martin's too slow to play defense or drive to the hoop. He's essentially useless if he's not hitting his shots.
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Zonkerbl wrote:Martin's too slow to play defense or drive to the hoop. He's essentially useless if he's not hitting his shots.
But he is hitting his shots which is what this team needs most. He is a pretty physical defender. He certainly has never seemed to be a liability on defense to me but he usually plays the 3. It might be a different story playing extended minutes at the 2.
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I think you have to continue to start Beal. I agree that he probably should not have started at the beginning of the season but now that he's playing better and seems to be finding a groove as a starter, I think it would be a mistake to bring him off the bench.
I'm not a fan of starting Martin. He's too one dimensional. I'd start Webster at SF. I'd also start Singleton or, at the very least, give him more playing time than he's been getting lately.
I'm not a fan of starting Martin. He's too one dimensional. I'd start Webster at SF. I'd also start Singleton or, at the very least, give him more playing time than he's been getting lately.
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Why not continue to start Beal? He's coming around.....This is not a Harden situation where he knows his place in the pecking order. There are some instances where its counter productive (because they'll pick up bad habits) but Beal isn'tthat type of player.
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I just hope Beal doesn't lose his aggression attacking the rim after that big fall he took vs. the Hawks.
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DMVleGeND wrote:I just hope Beal doesn't lose his aggression attacking the rim after that big fall he took vs. the Hawks.
He just needs to start paying attention to the scouting reports. Josh Smith is not the guy to try to dunk on.
Beal now 5th in the Rookie Rankings
http://www.nba.com/rookie-ladder/
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^How many players on this team do you actually think look at the scouting report?
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jivelikenice wrote:^How many players on this team do you actually think look at the scouting report?
Uhhhh.... man this weather sucks right now. What was the question again?
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He needs to study some tape of John Stockton and learn how to draw contact with his body.
Of course, he did on that play and no foul was called, so what can you do, you're a wizard.
Of course, he did on that play and no foul was called, so what can you do, you're a wizard.
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My latest at the blog. First inkling of a reason to be concerned about Beal.
http://broomonthewarpath.sportsblog.com ... gotta.html
http://broomonthewarpath.sportsblog.com ... gotta.html
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Nivek wrote:My latest at the blog. First inkling of a reason to be concerned about Beal.
http://broomonthewarpath.sportsblog.com ... gotta.html
Nivek, I think you accidentally juxtaposed those FT% numbers. I recall you saying a day or two ago that Beal is a better FT shooter than your average young SG.
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So will he play tonight ?
If not, I'm not watching if Randy is going to start Livingston again.
If they have Crawford and Beal at the 1 and 2, I will watch. Hell, I would even watch if he played Crawford and one of Webster or Martin at the two.
But Livingston and Crawford at the 1 and 2. Just not interested in watching that. Livingston has earned nothing. He should be getting 10 min max and only because there isn't anyone left to back up at PG. I would rather see Jan backing up PG at this point.
If not, I'm not watching if Randy is going to start Livingston again.
If they have Crawford and Beal at the 1 and 2, I will watch. Hell, I would even watch if he played Crawford and one of Webster or Martin at the two.
But Livingston and Crawford at the 1 and 2. Just not interested in watching that. Livingston has earned nothing. He should be getting 10 min max and only because there isn't anyone left to back up at PG. I would rather see Jan backing up PG at this point.