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Post#976 » by GhostsOfGil » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:07 pm

dobrojim wrote:he should definitely be in the discussion for ROY, at least
as of right now.


He is. NBA.com has him ranked 2nd behind Lillard on the rookie ladder. 8-)
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Post#977 » by Nivek » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:09 pm

That Rookie Ladder thing is such a joke. NBA oughta be embarrassed to have that up on their site.
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Post#978 » by jivelikenice » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:15 pm

He's at least in the discussion for ROY now. He's a distant #2, but has plenty of time to close the gap.
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Post#979 » by hands11 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:20 pm

GhostsOfGil wrote:
dobrojim wrote:he should definitely be in the discussion for ROY, at least
as of right now.


He is. NBA.com has him ranked 2nd behind Lillard on the rookie ladder. 8-)


It was always about his 3 ball. He was doing most other things well.

How he has turned his 3 ball around is amazing. You don't see that happen very often.

Wall has helped for sure but he starting shooting it better even before Wall returned. I know expect them to go in where before you expected him to miss.

Beal has been a legit stud lately and Wall return has really filled a hole they had. Now if Wall can just find an outside shot or two that works for him and learn to stick to that, his efficiency will go up like his assists have.
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Post#980 » by DCZards » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:59 pm

hands11 wrote:It was always about his 3 ball. He was doing most other things well.


Actually, I was more concerned about Beal's ability to hit the midrange jumper (especially off the dribble) than I was about his 3 ball. So it's good to see he's also hitting the 12-18 foot jumper more consistently.
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Post#981 » by tontoz » Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:47 pm

Nivek wrote:That Rookie Ladder thing is such a joke. NBA oughta be embarrassed to have that up on their site.



I think it's just marketing. They want to try to draw attention to as many rookies as possible. Whenever a guy gets hot he will shoot up the rankings like a rocket, passing guys who are having better years. If a guy has been near the top for awhile (like Davis) they will sometimes drop him like a stone so they can get some pub for other guys.

Flavor of the month kind of thing. I doubt they put much thought into it.
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Post#982 » by DCZards » Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:28 pm

tontoz wrote:
I think it's just marketing. They want to try to draw attention to as many rookies as possible. Whenever a guy gets hot he will shoot up the rankings like a rocket, passing guys who are having better years. If a guy has been near the top for awhile (like Davis) they will sometimes drop him like a stone so they can get some pub for other guys.

Flavor of the month kind of thing. I doubt they put much thought into it.



Agreed. Plus, if they used a more stat-based process people would be wondering why guys like Bernard James, Copeland and Valanciunas, players who've had little impact on their team's success and don't stand a chance of being ROY, would be rated higher or even near guys like Beal and Lilliard.

Keep it simple is always the way to go in marketing.
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Post#983 » by GhostsOfGil » Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:31 pm

Nivek wrote:That Rookie Ladder thing is such a joke. NBA oughta be embarrassed to have that up on their site.


Hey I never said it was a credible source, I'm just saying hes in a discussion. :wink:
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Post#984 » by Illmatic21 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:56 pm

Halcyon wrote:For those who missed the game.


His movement w/o the ball at 0:40 is perfect
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Post#985 » by Induveca » Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:12 pm

tontoz wrote:
Nivek wrote:That Rookie Ladder thing is such a joke. NBA oughta be embarrassed to have that up on their site.



I think it's just marketing. They want to try to draw attention to as many rookies as possible. Whenever a guy gets hot he will shoot up the rankings like a rocket, passing guys who are having better years. If a guy has been near the top for awhile (like Davis) they will sometimes drop him like a stone so they can get some pub for other guys.

Flavor of the month kind of thing. I doubt they put much thought into it.


Yep....gotta make sure customers know about new product models.
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Post#986 » by Nivek » Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:33 pm

I understand marketing. I can also understand not wanting a guy like Bernard James on a list like that. Although, it might serve to draw attention to guys who are performing well (even in limited minutes), but that fans aren't aware of. But, I can understand not wanting low minute guys on the list. That's pretty easily handled with a minutes screen or by using "total credits" instead of a per minute rating.

Either way, the list oughta be credible. Dion Waiters at 3 isn't credible. Drummond at 6 -- not credible. Conference Rookie of the Month in December for Beal -- not credible.

Not to me anyway. :)
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Post#987 » by tontoz » Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:39 pm

I'll go out on a limb and guess that people who know the per minute production of all the rookies aren't their target audience lol.
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Post#988 » by GeneWilderSTL » Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:32 am

I said homeboy make some noise! Great month so far for Beal - that was a nasty fall he took from Koufus - ah to be 19 again
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Post#989 » by dobrojim » Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:43 am

Beal showing CONSISTENCY. Gotta love that from a 19 yo kid.
Another excellent game from BB. Beal with it!
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Post#990 » by doclinkin » Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:04 am

B Real. Coming on strong. Love his synergy with Wall. And his toughness after Koufos double-dribbled him off the deck.
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Post#991 » by Tyrone Messby » Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:12 am

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Post#992 » by The Consiglieri » Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:37 am

Feeling very comfortable with my very rare positivity on something wizards, as in Beal, never lost the faith, figured he'd look a lot different once the team was starting it's first choice V, and sure enough, he looks like a different man w/Wall in there :). I'm shocked at how well they've been playing thus far, expected improvement, but not to this degree.
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Post#993 » by willbcocks » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:21 am

It's probably been brought up here, but I don't think it's got the attention it deserves: Beal has no left hand. Not only can he not dribble with his left hand at all--to the point that he'll do those one-handed crossovers rather than two-handed ones--but he doesn't shoot with his left hand, ever. Not on open layups, not on contested layups, now on short chip shots.

He's played this well without a left hand. I'm sure he can develop one if he sticks at it a few years. He has the chance to be a scary good player.
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Post#994 » by Knighthonor » Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:28 am

I wonder what can make a Beal-Wall on the floor together rotation better.
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Post#995 » by nate33 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:56 pm

willbcocks wrote:It's probably been brought up here, but I don't think it's got the attention it deserves: Beal has no left hand. Not only can he not dribble with his left hand at all--to the point that he'll do those one-handed crossovers rather than two-handed ones--but he doesn't shoot with his left hand, ever. Not on open layups, not on contested layups, now on short chip shots.

He's played this well without a left hand. I'm sure he can develop one if he sticks at it a few years. He has the chance to be a scary good player.

Interesting. You are right, but what's funny is that it's not very noticeable. Some one-handed guys are so obvious about it that it becomes easy to take their strong hand away. Calbert Cheaney was all left hand, for instance. Beal is so economical in his moves that you don't really notice that everything is with his right hand.

He'll get better at it though. I don't think it's all that uncommon for a non-PG 19-year-old to heavily favor the strong hand.

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