Tomas Satoransky---32nd Overall.

[dckingsfan]

His numbers so far in the season an a per 36 minute basis:

FG% 0.476
3PT% 0.333
FT% 0.790
RPG 4.3
SPG 1.8
APG 5.0
TO 3.1
PPG 14.8

[dckingsfan]

The things that jump out at me are:

- he is much stronger than he was last season
- he is clearly the best player on the CBS this year
- he has primary ball handling and they throw lots of doubles teams at him
- he has become a much better defender and always guards the best player on the other team, PG, SG or SF

- he still turns the ball over way to much - and silly TOs
- even though his 3 point shot looks better, his % hasn't increased

So... I can't tell where he would fit on the Wiz... this year he would be the Temple replacement. I personally think he would be better than Temple next year. But next year we could have a solid backup veteran PG... He can play SG - but won't Rice be ready to roll next year? He can play SF but we already have Porter.

[dckingsfan]

It sucks when we could have O'Quinn Instead of Thomas, But Idk, I think we should just use his rights as filler in a trade.

Whereas yes, O'Quinn would have definitely been a solid bench front court player this season vs. who knows next season... so violent agreement gambitx

[closg00]

Draymond Green added a career-high 18 points and 10 boards as the Warriors (34-22) thrived in the lane despite the absence of injured center Andrew Bogut and ill power forward David Lee. Golden State scored 52 points in the paint against a Nets defense that allows just 39.8 per game.

2nd Round picks can make a difference. Several guys on the board liked Green
viewtopic.php?f=35&p=34359014

CCJ wrote:

Draymond Green truly excels in a few areas. He is the only Warrior with more steals the turnovers. He leads GS with 1.9 steal per-36 minutes. Green has shot and made 29-33 FTs -- His .879 is second and close to Steph Curry's rate. Draymond averages 9.0 rebounds per-36, fourth behind Biedrins, Lee, and Landry.

Everything DCZ said applies to Green: Smart, high motor, NBA body, toughness.

I would add that he is clutch and focused. Draymond Green can be trusted to do the right thing under pressure.

[gambitx777]

I think if we clear some spots and bring him over he could be at least better than Temple. As long as we do not trust him as the main ball handler. He could be a good bench defender and 3 PT shooter. I say Buy him out and bring him over. He could at the very least up grade the bench and add some depth.

[JWizmentality]

Another wasted pick, we'll never see this guy. Ernie and his euro fascination

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[Ruzious]

Draymond Green added a career-high 18 points and 10 boards as the Warriors (34-22) thrived in the lane despite the absence of injured center Andrew Bogut and ill power forward David Lee. Golden State scored 52 points in the paint against a Nets defense that allows just 39.8 per game.

2nd Round picks can make a difference. Several guys on the board liked Green
viewtopic.php?f=35&p=34359014

CCJ wrote:

Draymond Green truly excels in a few areas. He is the only Warrior with more steals the turnovers. He leads GS with 1.9 steal per-36 minutes. Green has shot and made 29-33 FTs -- His .879 is second and close to Steph Curry's rate. Draymond averages 9.0 rebounds per-36, fourth behind Biedrins, Lee, and Landry.

Everything DCZ said applies to Green: Smart, high motor, NBA body, toughness.

I would add that he is clutch and focused. Draymond Green can be trusted to do the right thing under pressure.

Well, you can point to a good game or streak for any player (other than Wiz backup PG's this season), but overall, people are dreamin if they think Draymond has played well. He's basically a Moute in training. He's improved from a terrible offensive player to just a bad one.

[closg00]

The bottom-line is that Green helped his team win. Green is a glue/role-player who is doing exactly what he was drafted-for.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/5069/

[Ruzious]

The bottom-line is that Green helped his team win. Green is a glue/role-player who is doing exactly what he was drafted-for.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/5069/

I'm not impressed. He had a -6.1 on/off last season and has a -4.3 this season per 82games.com. And given his poor production and efficiency numbers, it's hard to say he's helped his team win, at this point.

[closg00]

The bottom-line is that Green helped his team win. Green is a glue/role-player who is doing exactly what he was drafted-for.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/5069/

I'm not impressed. He had a -6.1 on/off last season and has a -4.3 this season per 82games.com. And given his poor production and efficiency numbers, it's hard to say he's helped his team win, at this point.

Backups Jermaine O'Neal, Draymond Green carry Warriors past Nets, 93-86

http://www.startribune.com/sports/wolves/246735191.html

...but that is exactly what he did, he helped his team win.

[dckingsfan]

Another wasted pick, we'll never see this guy. Ernie and his euro fascination

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I think that using a 2nd round pick on someone you think might pan out is fine. But not on the 6th pick - that should be more than a project.

BTW, I thought Satoransky had a really good game yesterday... good D, good shooting - and then the 5 TOs. Other than the TOs - this guy is legit.

[JWizmentality]

Another wasted pick, we'll never see this guy. Ernie and his euro fascination

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I think that using a 2nd round pick on someone you think might pan out is fine. But not on the 6th pick - that should be more than a project.

BTW, I thought Satoransky had a really good game yesterday... good D, good shooting - and then the 5 TOs. Other than the TOs - this guy is legit.

Not when you have a history of picking Euro's who never play for us. Rubio, Navarro, Veeremenko....seriously how the flying f*ck does Ernie have a job? I'd be sacked in a heartbeat if I had half his ROI.

[Ruzious]

The bottom-line is that Green helped his team win. Green is a glue/role-player who is doing exactly what he was drafted-for.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/5069/

I'm not impressed. He had a -6.1 on/off last season and has a -4.3 this season per 82games.com. And given his poor production and efficiency numbers, it's hard to say he's helped his team win, at this point.

Backups Jermaine O'Neal, Draymond Green carry Warriors past Nets, 93-86

http://www.startribune.com/sports/wolves/246735191.html

...but that is exactly what he did, he helped his team win.

Around and around we go in circles. "Well, you can point to a good game or streak for any player (other than Wiz backup PG's this season), but overall, people are dreamin if they think Draymond has played well. He's basically a Moute in training. He's improved from a terrible offensive player to just a bad one."

[closg00]

Ruz- You are the only one going around in circles

You wrote: "it's hard to say he's helped his team win, at this point".

With Andrew Bogut sidelined with a left shoulder injury and David Lee out with a stomach flu, O'Neal and Draymond Green more than filled the void in the absence of Golden State's frontcourt regulars. O'Neal shot 10 for 13 from the floor, and Green scored a career-best 18 points to go with 10 rebounds.

Go-ahead and say-it, Green helped his team

[Illuminaire]

Closg, what is your actual point regarding Green? That he had one good game? That he's had a few and might one day be a truly useful player? That he is actually a good player helping his team on a regular basis?

What?

Because you've proven the first - but as Ruz pointed out, you can prove that for almost any player in the NBA. It's a meaningless declaration. You might as well go on to prove that every shot he took was made using a round, regulation sized basketball.

If you were attempting to make a case for some variation of the latter two points you've achieved exactly nothing towards that end.

[closg00]

Closg, what is your actual point regarding Green? That he had one good game? That he's had a few and might one day be a truly useful player? That he is actually a good player helping his team on a regular basis?

What?

Because you've proven the first - but as Ruz pointed out, you can prove that for almost any player in the NBA. It's a meaningless declaration. You might as well go on to prove that every shot he took was made using a round, regulation sized basketball.

If you were attempting to make a case for some variation of the latter two points you've achieved exactly nothing towards that end.

Did you read all of the previous comments on this page and the previous page? If you are still having trouble understanding my point(s) after re-reading, let me know.

[NbdyBeatsTheWiz]

Messing with Satoransquatch (because his existence- and ensuing relevance- seemingly equals that of bigfoot)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCTwj3CQCV4&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

Satoransnkeph Curry'd on em in that vid.

[dckingsfan]

Messing with Satoransquatch (because his existence- and ensuing relevance- seemingly equals that of bigfoot)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCTwj3CQCV4&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

Satoransnkeph Curry'd on em in that vid.

Yep, that was a really good game...

[adarsh1]

That call on the Satoransky shot was amazing

[fishercob]

Messing with Satoransquatch (because his existence- and ensuing relevance- seemingly equals that of bigfoot)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCTwj3CQCV4&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

Satoransnkeph Curry'd on em in that vid.

LOL, good to see Marcus Landry bonding with his teammates.

#awkward