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Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2

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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2 

Post#861 » by verbal8 » Wed Dec 5, 2012 1:32 am

closg00 wrote:The Hornets are changing their name to The Pelicans replacing the Wizards as worst team name in the NBA.


That was my thought exactly.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2 

Post#862 » by closg00 » Wed Dec 5, 2012 1:45 am

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closg00 wrote:The Hornets are changing their name to The Pelicans replacing the Wizards as worst team name in the NBA.


That was my thought exactly.


Seriously, what kind of mascot are they going to have? No-wonder there was that story about MJ'S changing the name of the Cats back to the Hornets.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2 

Post#863 » by LyricalRico » Fri Dec 7, 2012 3:38 pm

NYK looked great last night, I really think Amare is going to mess up that flow. And also still feeling like the Lakers would be interested in him. Add in the reported interest by TOR in Gasol and...

Lakers trade: Gasol
Lakers receive: Amare

Raptors trade: Calderon, A.Johnson, Klieza, and first
Raptors receive: Gasol

Knicks trade: Amare
Knicks receive: Calderon, A.Johnson, Klieza, and TOR first

LA gets a guy that's a better fit with Nash/D'Antoni and hopes he can stay healthy. Toronto upgrades their frontcourt without moving anyone from their core. NYK gets out of Amare's contract and adds depth plus a pick.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2 

Post#864 » by payitforward » Fri Dec 7, 2012 4:01 pm

verbal8 wrote:
closg00 wrote:The Hornets are changing their name to The Pelicans replacing the Wizards as worst team name in the NBA.

That was my thought exactly.

The pelican is the state bird of Louisiana. If the change happens, it becomes a certainty that the team will move to... I don't know... Idaho? :)
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2 

Post#865 » by dobrojim » Fri Dec 7, 2012 8:04 pm

Wiretap with a feed that says PHL is looking for a bench scorer.
Thought they had one, N1.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2 

Post#866 » by LyricalRico » Fri Dec 7, 2012 9:14 pm

dobrojim wrote:Wiretap with a feed that says PHL is looking for a bench scorer.
Thought they had one, N1.


Ha! I was thinking the same thing. Maybe they meant a forward?

If so, how about sending Bynum's expiring (and maybe something else of value) to MIN for Derrick Williams and JJ Barea? Philly adds scoring punch, while Minny takes a chance on Bynum while maintaining cap flexibility.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2 

Post#867 » by queridiculo » Fri Dec 7, 2012 9:45 pm

Queue the Pelican't jokes.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2 

Post#868 » by penbeast0 » Fri Dec 7, 2012 9:48 pm

closg00 wrote:
verbal8 wrote:
closg00 wrote:The Hornets are changing their name to The Pelicans replacing the Wizards as worst team name in the NBA.


That was my thought exactly.


Seriously, what kind of mascot are they going to have? No-wonder there was that story about MJ'S changing the name of the Cats back to the Hornets.


Actually Bobcats is the worst team name in the NBA. Zero on originality, zero on interest, zero on memorability, it doesn't even have any alliteration. Makes Wizards and Pelicans look great.

Actually Lakers is a pretty sucky name for an LA franchise too (it worked in Minnesota) but it has so much history behind it you have to give it props now.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2 

Post#869 » by Ed Wood » Fri Dec 7, 2012 10:48 pm

It's [The Bobcats] also the franchise naming equivalent of a vanity plate, a vanity plate that is pun based even.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2 

Post#870 » by closg00 » Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:42 pm

In a draft redo, wouldn't Monroe be the #1 pick?
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2 

Post#871 » by tontoz » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:25 am

The Grizzlies just hired Hollinger. Wow
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2 

Post#872 » by AFM » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:39 am

Then the Wiz should hire Nivek.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2 

Post#873 » by TGW » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:43 am

tontoz wrote:The Grizzlies just hired Hollinger. Wow


LOL I don't see the point. I don't think Hollinger offers anything any other GM couldn't get from outside sources.

Hell, a subscription to ESPN insider is probably enough to pick Hollinger's brain.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2 

Post#874 » by closg00 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:01 am

TGW wrote:
tontoz wrote:The Grizzlies just hired Hollinger. Wow


LOL I don't see the point. I don't think Hollinger offers anything any other GM couldn't get from outside sources.

Hell, a subscription to ESPN insider is probably enough to pick Hollinger's brain.


I wonder if he can scout, or is he is just a numbers guy? I would say it was a good move.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2 

Post#875 » by montestewart » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:54 am

AFM wrote:Then the Wiz should hire Nivek.

Maybe fishercob can represent Nivek and get him a little more cash than last time.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2 

Post#876 » by tontoz » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:57 am

TGW wrote:
tontoz wrote:The Grizzlies just hired Hollinger. Wow


LOL I don't see the point. I don't think Hollinger offers anything any other GM couldn't get from outside sources.

Hell, a subscription to ESPN insider is probably enough to pick Hollinger's brain.



I think you may be overrating GMs in general. Looking at the decisions i have seen from GMs over the years they don't seem to be generally tuned in to statistical analysis.

If you have ever tried to teach an old person how to use a computer you get the idea. I think it is a smart move on Memphis' part. Setting aside the merits (or lack thereof) of PER i think it is a safe bet Hollinger has a better grasp of stats than anyone on their payroll.

I would be ecstatic if the Wizards hired him. He rightfully panned the Okariza disaster. Didn't he coin the phrase "Grunfeldian ridiculousness"?
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2 

Post#877 » by LyricalRico » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:21 pm

Kobe moving to SF so Meeks can start, and Metta apparently going to be the reserve PF. Of course we should have expected D'Antoni to go small at some point because that's what he does. But that doesn't bode well for the Howard/Gasol frontcourt. I still think their best chance is to find some way to trade for Amare.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2 

Post#878 » by LyricalRico » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:45 pm

Actually, what about this deal:

Lakers trade: Gasol and Metta
Bulls trade: Boozer, Deng, and Robinson

Would Boozer fit in better with D'Antoni's offense? At least Deng would give them an athletic guy who can score/defend from the 3, and also play the 4 in small lineups. Nate helps their PG situation.

From CHI's perspective, they get out of the last year of Boozer's deal without having to use the amnesty provision and just eating the salary. They also may save enough money immediately to not pay the luxury tax this season, especially if they can buyout Metta at even a small discount (although Gasol's trade bonus might negate that savings). And then next year Gasol could give them the true post presence they need to complement Rose for a legit title run.

Thoughts?
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2 

Post#879 » by closg00 » Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:23 pm

closg00 wrote:
nate33 wrote:The Rockets dumped Lowry, Dragic, Lee, Buddinger, Scola and Dalembert and added only Lin, Asik and a bunch of rookies. They are way too young and inexperienced to be all that effective this year.


I took that their salary dump into account. This is how they compare to us this year.

PG: Lin/Livington > Wall/Price until proven otherwise
SG: Martin/Lamb > Crawford/ Beal
SF: Parsons/Budinger > Ariza/Singleton
PF: Patterson/White <Nene/Booker
C: Asik/Donatas < Okafor/Seraphin

Houston's Bench > Washington bench and they have assests + cap-room to make moves. Houston won't fare well in the West, but they can be players again in next-years FA.


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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2 

Post#880 » by pancakes3 » Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:04 pm

LyricalRico wrote:Actually, what about this deal:

Lakers trade: Gasol and Metta
Bulls trade: Boozer, Deng, and Robinson

Would Boozer fit in better with D'Antoni's offense? At least Deng would give them an athletic guy who can score/defend from the 3, and also play the 4 in small lineups. Nate helps their PG situation.

From CHI's perspective, they get out of the last year of Boozer's deal without having to use the amnesty provision and just eating the salary. They also may save enough money immediately to not pay the luxury tax this season, especially if they can buyout Metta at even a small discount (although Gasol's trade bonus might negate that savings). And then next year Gasol could give them the true post presence they need to complement Rose for a legit title run.

Thoughts?


I think they'll miss Gasol more than they appreciate Deng. Plus Gasol may not be Kevin Love but he fits the D'Antoni run and gun better than Boozer.
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