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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:56 am
by MikeTheKid
dangermouse wrote:I thought the SAC/HOU trade was rather lateral. I'm guessing Sac are gearing up for another move.
I think both HOU and SAC are not done dealing, I think the Rockets are still going after Josh Smith
Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:29 am
by TGW
Marcus Morris for a second rounder eh? This probably means Jan vesely is worth a ham sandwich.
Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:30 am
by MikeTheKid
^^^Hes not even worth a D-League scrub
Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:55 am
by closg00
TGW wrote:Marcus Morris for a second rounder eh? This probably means Jan vesely is worth a ham sandwich.
I wish we had a GM who tried to get steals like this, Morris for a future 2nd rounder? Stunning.
Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:59 am
by TGW
closg00 wrote:TGW wrote:Marcus Morris for a second rounder eh? This probably means Jan vesely is worth a ham sandwich.
I wish we had a GM who tried to get steals like this, Morris for a future 2nd rounder? Stunning.
Marcus has more potential and game than Vesely by far, and was obtained for a mere 2nd rounder.
I just don't get this FO. Other teams are getting rotation-worthy players for 2nd rounder...we use them on guys that will never make it to the NBA.
Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:54 pm
by fishercob
Good moves by Morey. Using cap space and young players whose shine hasn't worn off to steal a recent high lotto pick. How novel.
I think this move increase the likelihood of Josh Smith going to the ROckets. RObinson would be a very attractive piece for ATL in an sign-and-trade if it came to that. ATL's probably askign too much for Smith now, but once he signs a big sheet with HOU this summer, the Hawks will either need to match or play ball. RObinson is young and cheap and they can sell that to the fanbase.
Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:22 pm
by Benjammin
Morey plays three dimensional chess. EFG plays tic-tac-toe and can't seem to get the hang of it.
Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:52 pm
by closg00
Benjammin wrote:Morey plays three dimensional chess. EFG plays tic-tac-toe and can't seem to get the hang of it.
+ 1 Million. Has Ernie ever made a pro-active move ever? All of his moves are centered around book-balancing or as a result of injury to personnel.
Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:06 pm
by nate33
fishercob wrote:Good moves by Morey. Using cap space and young players whose shine hasn't worn off to steal a recent high lotto pick. How novel.
I think this move increase the likelihood of Josh Smith going to the ROckets. RObinson would be a very attractive piece for ATL in an sign-and-trade if it came to that. ATL's probably askign too much for Smith now, but once he signs a big sheet with HOU this summer, the Hawks will either need to match or play ball. RObinson is young and cheap and they can sell that to the fanbase.
Yup. I really like that Morey doesn't fall in love with his marginal prospects. A lesser GM (*cough* erniegrunfeld *cough*) would have refrained from trading Patterson just because he happened to be a starter. Patterson was a starter by default. Morey recognized that Patterson, although not awful, was a totally replaceable player and therefore could be moved if the return was worth it.
You would never see EG make a similar move with Booker, Vesely, Crawford, etc. He is blinded by his ego and continues to wait for them to "break out". It won't happen. These guys are what they are. Vesely is a bust. Crawford is a gunner who can only help bad teams. Booker is no more than a respectable backup who can play well for stretches when healthy, but is never a game changer.
Crawford might be moved now because he is a malcontent, but a proactive GM would have moved him when his value was high.
Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:18 pm
by AFM
Damn. Is Morey on point or what? Compare their current roster to what it was 1 year ago. It's crazy.
Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:49 pm
by pancakes3
Especially since they were the "losers" of the Howard sweepstakes and the Lakers were double-winners in free agency. Moneyball at work. It'll be even more impressive if/when they land Josh Smith. Said it once, said it again - when that Rocket squad is clicking, they can take anyone in 7.
Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:01 pm
by MikeTheKid
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Orlando has traded J.J Redick to the Bucks, league source tells Y!
Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:07 pm
by mohammed10
*** BREAKING NEWS ***
Hawks made a trade:
Brian Windhorst @WindhorstESPNThe Hawks have traded Anthony Morrow to Dallas for Dahntay Jones, sources tell ESPN
...just not the one everybody thought
Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:28 pm
by closg00
MikeTheKid wrote:Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Orlando has traded J.J Redick to the Bucks, league source tells Y!
The Bucks sent:
Doron Lamb - 42nd pick 2012
Tobias Harris - 19th Pick 2011
Beno Urdrich
Even if the Bucks are unable to re-sign Redick, it shows that 2nd round picks are valuable assets not to be tossed away Ted and Ernie
Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:08 am
by willbcocks
Terrible move by Milwaukee. They are even worse than us in gunning for the 8th seed. 25 games of Reddick and the right to pay him when they have Jenning and Ellis? And they didn't move Jennings or Ellis? Bucks fans are rightfully distraught.
Tobias Harris isn't getting minutes on that team, but he has some skills. It's very rare for guys like that to break out on a new team, but if a player is going to do it, I wouldn't be surprised if it is Harris.
Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:14 am
by Chocolate City Jordanaire
Orlando is tanking the right way. They're going to do the same thing Morey did in Houston this season. They have many talented players on rookie deals, along with much cap space, to enable the Magic to make great trades next season.
Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:38 am
by Ruzious
willbcocks wrote:Terrible move by Milwaukee. They are even worse than us in gunning for the 8th seed. 25 games of Reddick and the right to pay him when they have Jenning and Ellis? And they didn't move Jennings or Ellis? Bucks fans are rightfully distraught.
Tobias Harris isn't getting minutes on that team, but he has some skills. It's very rare for guys like that to break out on a new team, but if a player is going to do it, I wouldn't be surprised if it is Harris.
Gotta wonder what their plan is after the season - or if they even have a plan. If Ellis opts out of his contract, they'll have 3 guards as free agents that are all trying to get contracts of 10 mil plus per year - and NONE of them are worth it.
I gotta wonder if they did this trade thinking that they had a deal set up with Atlanta to send Ellis there for Josh Smith. Either way, the effect is - they might win one game against Miami in the 1st round of the playoffs - if they're lucky. And they give up 2 young cheap players that could have helped them next season and for years to come.
Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:32 pm
by I_Like_Dirt
Not that it necessarily helps them build a winner for next season, but the Bucks are in a position to just let all 3 of their guys walk and still have max cap space. I doubt they'll do it because they never rebuild, but they're in a prime position to strategically tank for one season with the aim being Wiggins or Parker and then turn things around really quickly. With Ilyasova playing better after a terrible start to the season, the only really bad contract they have is Gooden's at just under $7 million for the next two seasons.
Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Posted: Sun Mar 3, 2013 8:18 pm
by MikeTheKid
Josh Selby was just waived by the Cavs, I say sign him to a 10-Day it wouldn't hurt. His athleticism is rediculous
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... Josh-Selby
Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Posted: Sun Mar 3, 2013 8:21 pm
by AFM
Tought break for the kid. From #1 ranked HS PG to waived by the Cavs. What happened?