Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #1111 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:14 am

Orlando is tanking the right way. They're going to do the same thing Morey did in Houston this season. They have many talented players on rookie deals, along with much cap space, to enable the Magic to make great trades next season.

Post #1112 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:38 am

willbcocks wrote:Terrible move by Milwaukee. They are even worse than us in gunning for the 8th seed. 25 games of Reddick and the right to pay him when they have Jenning and Ellis? And they didn't move Jennings or Ellis? Bucks fans are rightfully distraught.

Tobias Harris isn't getting minutes on that team, but he has some skills. It's very rare for guys like that to break out on a new team, but if a player is going to do it, I wouldn't be surprised if it is Harris.

Gotta wonder what their plan is after the season - or if they even have a plan. If Ellis opts out of his contract, they'll have 3 guards as free agents that are all trying to get contracts of 10 mil plus per year - and NONE of them are worth it.

I gotta wonder if they did this trade thinking that they had a deal set up with Atlanta to send Ellis there for Josh Smith. Either way, the effect is - they might win one game against Miami in the 1st round of the playoffs - if they're lucky. And they give up 2 young cheap players that could have helped them next season and for years to come.

I_Like_Dirt · Post #1113 » by **I_Like_Dirt** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:32 pm

Not that it necessarily helps them build a winner for next season, but the Bucks are in a position to just let all 3 of their guys walk and still have max cap space. I doubt they'll do it because they never rebuild, but they're in a prime position to strategically tank for one season with the aim being Wiggins or Parker and then turn things around really quickly. With Ilyasova playing better after a terrible start to the season, the only really bad contract they have is Gooden's at just under $7 million for the next two seasons.

MikeTheKid · Post #1114 » by **MikeTheKid** » Sun Mar 3, 2013 8:18 pm

Josh Selby was just waived by the Cavs, I say sign him to a 10-Day it wouldn't hurt. His athleticism is rediculous

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... Josh-Selby

AFM · Post #1115 » by **AFM** » Sun Mar 3, 2013 8:21 pm

Tought break for the kid. From #1 ranked HS PG to waived by the Cavs. What happened?

closg00 · Post #1116 » by **closg00** » Sun Mar 3, 2013 8:27 pm

MikeTheKid wrote:Josh Selby was just waived by the Cavs, I say sign him to a 10-Day it wouldn't hurt. His athleticism is rediculous

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... Josh-Selby

+1 Selby is a scorer, and we need scorers. Too-bad Ernie is too-lazy, he only makes moves if he has-to (injury etc)

rockymac52 · Post #1117 » by **rockymac52** » Sun Mar 3, 2013 8:33 pm

Come on now guys, no need to jump on Ernie for not signing a guy like Selby.

Selby is absolute garbage.

He was highly ranked coming out of high school, and wasn't even good in college at kU.

He's young, and it's easy to look at that ranking coming out of high school and think that he still has a lot of "potential," but the reality is he's just not good enough to play in the NBA.

I don't think it's fair to call him a scorer either, seeing as he can't get off the bench, and when he does, he has actually been terrible on offense. According to synergy, of the 458 NBA players that have seen game action this year, Selby ranks 453 in half court offense efficiency. 453/458!!! That's bad!!!

Selby will be a career D-Leaguer.

verbal8 · Post #1118 » by **verbal8** » Sun Mar 3, 2013 8:34 pm

pancakes3 wrote:Especially since they were the "losers" of the Howard sweepstakes and the Lakers were double-winners in free agency. Moneyball at work. It'll be even more impressive if/when they land Josh Smith. Said it once, said it again - when that Rocket squad is clicking, they can take anyone in 7.

Is Josh Smith a "moneyball" player? He has things that the advanced stats would like. However his shot selection seems to make him less attractive especially for a high usage and high-priced acquisition.

Post #1119 » by **Ruzious** » Sun Mar 3, 2013 8:38 pm

AFM wrote:Tought break for the kid. From #1 ranked HS PG to waived by the Cavs. What happened?

Sounds like being treated like a star way too soon by lots of parasites was the biggest problem. Kid is still just 21. Maybe a year in Europe would force him to work on much needed maturity and fundamentals - particularly how to play off the ball (from what little I've seen of him - he needs to learn that, since he's not a legit PG).

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #1120 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Sun Mar 3, 2013 8:59 pm

rockymac52 wrote:Come on now guys, no need to jump on Ernie for not signing a guy like Selby.

Selby is absolute garbage.

He was highly ranked coming out of high school, and wasn't even good in college at kU.

He's young, and it's easy to look at that ranking coming out of high school and think that he still has a lot of "potential," but the reality is he's just not good enough to play in the NBA.

I don't think it's fair to call him a scorer either, seeing as he can't get off the bench, and when he does, he has actually been terrible on offense. According to synergy, of the 458 NBA players that have seen game action this year, Selby ranks 453 in half court offense efficiency. 453/458!!! That's bad!!!

Selby will be a career D-Leaguer.

Selby got outed and I do not believe what he said after the fact, not that it matters.

rockymac52 · Post #1121 » by **rockymac52** » Sun Mar 3, 2013 9:36 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
rockymac52 wrote:Come on now guys, no need to jump on Ernie for not signing a guy like Selby.

Selby is absolute garbage.

He was highly ranked coming out of high school, and wasn't even good in college at kU.

He's young, and it's easy to look at that ranking coming out of high school and think that he still has a lot of "potential," but the reality is he's just not good enough to play in the NBA.

I don't think it's fair to call him a scorer either, seeing as he can't get off the bench, and when he does, he has actually been terrible on offense. According to synergy, of the 458 NBA players that have seen game action this year, Selby ranks 453 in half court offense efficiency. 453/458!!! That's bad!!!

Selby will be a career D-Leaguer.

Selby got outed and I do not believe what he said after the fact, not that it matters.

LOL. I typed something in very similar, but then I decided I didn't want to be the one to say it. So thank you for that :lol:

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #1122 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Sun Mar 3, 2013 11:24 pm

I probably should not have. I don't think it is worthwhile to discuss other than to say Selby's few D-League games and this past summer league performances were similar to Lillard's and Waiters' best.

He hasn't played well in the NBA appearances he has made.

closg00 · Post #1123 » by **closg00** » Mon Mar 4, 2013 12:36 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:I probably should not have. I don't think it is worthwhile to discuss other than to say Selby's few D-League games and this past summer league performances were similar to Lillard's and Waiters' best.

He hasn't played well in the NBA appearances he has made.

Selby was seldom used as a 3rd-string PG, this season practically not at all.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/493 ... ?year=2012

closg00 · Post #1124 » by **closg00** » Tue Mar 5, 2013 1:32 pm

The Bucks have won 4-straight post-trade. With Dalembert back and JJ part of their rotation, the Bucks are maintaining their lead over Philly comfortably.

sfam · Post #1125 » by **sfam** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 4:12 pm

Looks like the Hawks are giving Shelvin Mack a try:

The Atlanta Hawks will sign Shelvin Mack.

Jeremy Tyler was waived by the Hawks on Wednesday to create a roster spot.

Mack played last season for the Washington Wizards, but was waived before the start of the season. After a stint in the D-League, Mack was re-signed by the Wizards in December and later signed two 10-day deals with the Philadelphia 76ers.

Mack has averaged 20.1 points, 7.5 assists and 4.3 rebounds in 40.3 minutes per game in the D-League this season.

I really liked Mack at Butler in the Tournament. I wish he had been decent on the Wizards, and wish him all the best at Atlanta.

closg00 · Post #1126 » by **closg00** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 4:42 pm

....and Jeremy Tyler was waived, my first thought was that "he's gotta be better than Vesely "

fishercob · Post #1127 » by **fishercob** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:28 pm

The Sixers traded Iguodala, Vucevic and Moe Harkless for Andrew Bynum.

Post #1128 » by **nate33** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:52 pm

fishercob wrote:The Sixers traded Iguodala, Vucevic and Moe Harkless for Andrew Bynum.

Wow. And I remember being befuddled as to why Orlando gave up Dwight and didn't even get Bynum back in the transaction. Now I see why.

Post #1129 » by **montestewart** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 5:43 pm

nate33 wrote:
fishercob wrote:The Sixers traded Iguodala, Vucevic and Moe Harkless for Andrew Bynum.

Wow. And I remember being befuddled as to why Orlando gave up Dwight and didn't even get Bynum back in the transaction. Now I see why.

And why so many here were uninterested in trying to get Bynum.

closg00 · Post #1130 » by **closg00** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:24 am

The Dallas Mavericks are planning on signing Chris Wright from the Iowa Energy.

Wright, a point guard out of Georgetown, is averaging 15.5 points, 7.0 assists and 4.3 rebounds per game with the Energy.

Wright will replace the recently waived Dominique Jones on the roster.

1. I wonder if CW is better than Price...or JW?

2. Cuban paid $3 mil to get Jones, was it just a tax write-off that year? Cuban gambles big I guess.