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Post#976 Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:01 pm by Ruzious

Yeah, but what about when Tim Duncan loses a step... by the time he turns 50. It's just a matter of decades before they go downhill. :)

They have done a great job of extending the careers of their big 3 by limiting their minutes and giving them the occasional day off. They've brought along Splitter beautifully. Once they finally let him play 30 plus minutes a game, he'll likely be an all-star caliber big. No organization does as good a job at blending preparing for the future and playing for the current year.
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Post#977 Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:14 pm by hands11

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... de_Options

The Los Angeles Lakers are skeptical of completing a significant trade ahead of the Feb. 21 NBA trade deadline.

"We don't have many options," Mitch Kupchak said Wednesday. "It's not like we're going to be active or overly active in the trade market."

The Lakers' most likely would trade Pau Gasol if a major trade is executed.

The Lakers have dealt with injuries throughout the season, making a full evaluation of their roster difficult for Kupchak.

They need to fire him. No trade options. Using injuries as an excuse for not being able to evaluate talent.
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Post#978 Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:33 pm by MikeTheKid

Alvin Gentry Fired, wasn't his fault since they pretty much let everyone walk. He'll land another head coaching gig

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Post#979 Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:27 pm by hands11

Hawks Sign Jannero Pargo To 10-Day Contract

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Post#980 Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:21 pm by LyricalRico

Wow, Gasol permanently to the bench. Either LA is fine with having the most expensive 6th man ever, or a trade will happen (regardless of what they may be saying).
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Post#981 Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:41 am by FAH1223

Grizzlies are making moves to get under luxury tax and signing depth.


Ken Berger @KBergCBS
League source confirms Grizzlies agree to send Marreese Speights, Josh Selby to Cavs for Jon Leuer. There is a pick involved in deal.

Brian Windhorst @WindhorstESPN
Wayne Ellington also going to Cavs as part of deal. Will save Grizzlies $6 million, get them safely under tax line.

Chris Vernon @ChrisVernonShow
BREAKING: Grizzlies are going to sign former Knick Bill Walker and former Celtic Delonte West. Also will sign Sasha Vujacic.
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Post#982 Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:51 am by Chocolate City Jordanaire

LyricalRico wrote:Wow, Gasol permanently to the bench. Either LA is fine with having the most expensive 6th man ever, or a trade will happen (regardless of what they may be saying).


I have never seen a player's game fall of as sharply as Pau's. Under Phil Jackson, Pau was an elite PF/C. Offense went through him. Once Mike Brown came to the Lakers, Pau's role changed and he began to struggle. With every new coach Pau seems to get worse.

It is hard to believe Earl Clark is a better option than Pau Gasol.
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Post#983 Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:59 am by Chocolate City Jordanaire

It didn't take long for Pargo to make the most of his second chance:

Horford, Pargo help Hawks rally past Minnesota


http://sports.yahoo.com/news/horford-pa ... --nba.html

Injuries at guard forced the Hawks to sign Pargo to a 10-day contract earlier Monday, and he did not disappoint.


The 33-year-old, nine-year NBA journeyman hit a 3-pointer from the left corner with 5:26 remaining to give the Hawks their first lead since the 9:40 mark of the first quarter.


''It's a relief to be able to have a guy like that,'' Horford said. ''He was working out. He was in shape. He was a great teammate last year, and I'm happy to have him back.''
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Post#984 Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:07 am by closg00

The Griz trade Speights, Ellington, Selby, and a 2015 pick for the Cavs Jon Leur.
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Post#985 Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:20 am by Illuminaire

Cap space...ugh, good gosh. What is it good for? Absolutely nothing.
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Post#986 Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:36 am by nate33

FAH1223 wrote:Grizzlies are making moves to get under luxury tax and signing depth.


Ken Berger @KBergCBS
League source confirms Grizzlies agree to send Marreese Speights, Josh Selby to Cavs for Jon Leuer. There is a pick involved in deal.

Brian Windhorst @WindhorstESPN
Wayne Ellington also going to Cavs as part of deal. Will save Grizzlies $6 million, get them safely under tax line.

Chris Vernon @ChrisVernonShow
BREAKING: Grizzlies are going to sign former Knick Bill Walker and former Celtic Delonte West. Also will sign Sasha Vujacic.

I guess Hollinger could find any suckers for Rudy Gay right now. He had to save a bunch of money and find a replacement good enough to keep Memphis' title hopes alive. He couldn't achieve both so they went with Plan B. They're getting under the luxtax and will wait until the offseason to move either Gay or Randolph.
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Post#987 Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:49 am by FAH1223

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:I have never seen a player's game fall of as sharply as Pau's. Under Phil Jackson, Pau was an elite PF/C. Offense went through him. Once Mike Brown came to the Lakers, Pau's role changed and he began to struggle. With every new coach Pau seems to get worse.

It is hard to believe Earl Clark is a better option than Pau Gasol.


Its weird because back in August he was playing REALLY well during the Olympics.
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Post#988 Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:04 pm by MikeTheKid

closg00 wrote:The Griz trade Speights, Ellington, Selby, and a 2015 pick for the Cavs Jon Leur.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1495 ... mpaign=nba


Dammit I really want Josh Selby
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Post#989 Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:25 pm by Nivek

MikeTheKid wrote:
closg00 wrote:The Griz trade Speights, Ellington, Selby, and a 2015 pick for the Cavs Jon Leur.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1495 ... mpaign=nba


Dammit I really want Josh Selby


Why? He hasn't played well in the NBA, and his year at Kansas was lackluster. In YODA, he was solidly in the "don't draft" group. He had an offensive rating of 89 at Kansas. He shot 38% from 2pt range. 23% of his possessions ended in a turnover. He shot the 3-ball okay, but that's hardly a reason to sign him.
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Post#990 Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:30 pm by Illuminaire

MikeTheKid wrote:
closg00 wrote:The Griz trade Speights, Ellington, Selby, and a 2015 pick for the Cavs Jon Leur.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1495 ... mpaign=nba


Dammit I really want Josh Selby


If only he could have been acquired for cap space alone! -.-
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Post#991 Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:50 pm by closg00

Selby played in 1 game in December and a handful of games this month. Perhaps he will get a shot to show something with the Cavs.
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Post#992 Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:46 pm by badinage

The story here is that a good team that might've knocked off the Spurs or Thunder or Clippers just gutted its bench.

If I were a Memphis fan, I wouldn't be thrilled.

Nor would I be thrilled with the constant floating of names that has been going on with Zach Randolph and Rudy Gay.

Nor with the hubris of the new guys in ownership and management.
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Post#993 Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:59 pm by MikeTheKid

badinage wrote:The story here is that a good team that might've knocked off the Spurs or Thunder or Clippers just gutted its bench.

If I were a Memphis fan, I wouldn't be thrilled.

Nor would I be thrilled with the constant floating of names that has been going on with Zach Randolph and Rudy Gay.

Nor with the hubris of the new guys in ownership and management.


You gotta think that one of Gay and Z-Bo could still be traded cause if there still in win now mode there gonna need some bench guys bad especially someone to replace Speights who was basically there first guy off the bench
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Post#994 Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:04 pm by MikeTheKid

Just saw this on MEM board:

vanjulio wrote:http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2013/jan/22/grizzlies-trade-speights-selby-and-draft-pick-cavs/

Grizzlies to trade Speights, Ellington, Selby and draft pick for Cavs' Jon Leuer

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Posted January 22, 2013 at 8:25 a.m., updated January 22, 2013 at 8:56 a.m.

929espn: From @ChrisVernonShow : #Grizzlies to sign F Bill Walker G Delonte West G Sasha Vujacic.


Then saw this on Twitter:

Chris Vernon ‏@ChrisVernonShow
More News: If Grizzlies don't sign Walker/West - are considering Micah Downs, Eddie House, or Joe Ingles (currently in Barcelona)


If I were a Grizz fan I'd be really pissed!!!
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Post#995 Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2
Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:42 pm by Nivek

The thing that puzzles me a little about the Memphis trade is that they included both Speights and Ellington. Selby is irrelevant -- he didn't play much, and he played badly when he did. Speights was decent, though. Ellington isn't all that good, but he can at least shoot the three.

Memphis could have gotten under the luxury tax threshold by trading Speights alone -- they needed to shed ~$3.8 million, Speights is getting $4.2 million. They could have gotten to $4.1 million by trading Ellington, Haddadi and Selby. Considering Memphis gave up the pick, they should have been able to hang on to either Speights or Ellington.
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