Re: Predict the Eastern Conference Standings
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:13 pm
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Knighthonor wrote:looking back at this thread, many of you all have to admit, you also believe EG's decisions on roster was a playoff run team.
So honestly, many of your have no idea how to read talent.
I'm very comfortable with what I said back in July, and now having been dealt injuries to Wall that cost him at least 20 games, I downgraded my expectation to my original floor (32 wins at best) in an October post in this thread. I've missed many projections over the years, but like a lot of cynical fans here, I've consistently won big betting the low end of win totals with the Wizards/Boulez. Knights Honor, a few of the fans here are just wild optimists, and some of us probably appear geniuses now in our low expectations though admittedly there will be a year someday when we are surprised and totally off in our expectations, even a broken clock is right twice a day afterall, I just don't expect that to happen soon. Also like that I nailed Drummond . Loved him and I was incensed that the Pistons got that freaking lucky. Got a guy with a 50/50 shot at being the 2nd best player out of this draft, maybe the best, and a legit franchise player in Drummond at that freaking slot? So insane. Why don't we ever get that lucky?The Consiglieri wrote:]
by The Consiglieri on Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:03 am
........... Tier 4: 10. Toronto 11. Washington 12. Cleveland 3 teams that have been struggling to rebuild for several years with middling success, all have squandered key high draft picks with suspect selections and/or trades, but all three teams are ahead of the game compared to Dumars' Pistons, and Jordan's Bobcats. I am wishy washy about where we slot in amongst the 3, I think we could finish anywhere between 9 and 12 next april, i definitely do not think we're playoff bound, i think our ceiling next year is 36-37 wins. Toronto could be a good site better, and I think Cleveland is one more year away from being a playoff contender. Tier 5: 13. Detroit 14. Orlando 15. Charlotte Orlando screwed the pooch last summer/winter when they didn't get rid of Howard at the first scent of trouble. They never should have kept him, should have moved him while he was worth something, now he has all the power, and they have none other than to make him miserable for 1 more year. They aren't going to get squat in a trade and will be worse than Charlotte in '13-'14. Detroits basically a bug slamming into a window, but were unbelievably lucky to land Drummond at their slot. That was the steal of the draft in terms of value versus slot. Charlotte is screwed till '14-'15 but they made the right pick......
montestewart wrote:Nivek wrote:I think Booker suffers from the "he looks funny for a basketball player" malady. He looks more like a defensive end than a PF. His blockiness belies how quick/fast he is, and how well he jumps. I agree that he's a better player than he gets credit for.
Balzac on Booker:How strange! In every great man whose portrait I have remarked, the neck is short. Perhaps nature requires that in them the heart should be nearer to the brain!
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Wallbeliever Thu Jul 26, 2012 wrote:1. Miami
2. Indiana
3. New Jersey
4. New York
5. Boston
6. Chicago
7. Washington
8. Atlanta
9. Milwaukee
10. Orlando
11. Toronto
12. Philadelphia
13. Detroit
14. Cleveland
15. Charlotte
nate33 wrote:There have been a ton of moves this offseason, which will disrupt the status quo in the Eastern Conference. Can you predict the final standings at the end of the season?
Here's a breakdown of the major changes to help get things started:
LOCK TO MAKE PLAYOFFS:
Miami - added Ray Allen
Boston - added Jason Terry and Jeff Green. Sullinger may help as well. Lost Ray Allen. They might not finish as a top 3 team because Pierce and Garnett are going to take it easy during the regular season, but they'll surely make the playoffs.
Indiana - Swapped Augustin for Collison. Added Mahinmi and Gerald Green to bolster the depth. They have a balanced, deep, and fairly young roster that looked like the 3rd best team in the East last year.
LIKELY TO MAKE PLAYOFFS:
New Jersey - Williams, Johnson, Wallace, Humphries, Lopez is an extremely strong starting 5. Their only weakness is depth. An injury up front could derail them.
New York - Added Raymond Felton, Jason Kidd, Ronnie Brewer and Marcus Camby while losing Lin and Fields. While Melo and Amare aren't ideal teammates because both are no-D ball-dominators, their chemistry should improve a little with more time together. If Chandler gets hurt, their defense could suck bad enough to miss the playoffs. Otherwise, they'll make it.
Atlanta - lost Joe Johnson, Marvin Williams and Kent Hinrich. Added Lou Williams and Kyle Korver. They look a bit worse this year, but probably not so much worse that they'll miss the playoffs altogether.
ON THE BUBBLE
Philly - lost Lou Williams and Brand. Added Nick Young, Dorrell Wright, and Kwame. They went just 15-22 over the second half of the season after starting out 20-9.
Chicago - no Derrick Rose for most of the season. Thibs kept the team together with smoke and mirrors, but can he do it another year? Also, the injury prone Deng will endure more wear and tear during the Olympics, and they lost Asik, Brewer and Korver while adding a washed up Hinrich.
Washington - No need to rehash this in detail. The Wizards added Okafor, Ariza and Beal to a team that fared pretty well after the Nene trade.
Orlando - Lost Ryan Anderson. Added nobody of relevance. Howard is coming off of back surgery and his antics are a huge distraction. Nevertheless, any team with Howard is a fair bet to make the playoffs.
Milwaukee - Made the Bogut for Ellis trade last year and shored up their hole at center this offseason by adding Dalembert. The also drafted Doron Lamb who may be one of the few rookies to have an immediate impact. They lost Livingston.
LONGSHOTS FOR PLAYOFFS
Toronto - Added Lowry, Fields and Valanciunus. Lowry can play but I don't think the other additions will make all that much difference right away. Young bigs like Valanciunus rarely help a team win much, even if they post good numbers. Fields is an overrated role player.
NO CHANCE FOR THE PLAYOFFS
Detroit - Lost Ben Gordon. Added Drummond and Maggette who might hurt more than they help. Detroit is looking to make an impact next year so might eventually decide to tank once this season becomes a lost cause.
Cleveland - Kyrie Irving is good, but nobody else on their roster is.
Charlotte - They're still a long way away.