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Re: Wizards Sign Martell Webster

Postby The Consiglieri on Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:24 am

Jukeness wrote:He definately doesnt make smart decisions. At least not all of last year. He once dunked the ball with 2 seconds left when the Wolves were down by three.


Probably under order to lock up a nice pre-lottery slot for you guys in the draft. That, or he was watching a JaVale McGee motivational video before the game.
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Re: Wizards Sign Martell Webster

Postby The Consiglieri on Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:26 am

AFM wrote:Let's just go ahead and say it

Ariza is pulling a Bibby/Lewis
Dude wants to be traded/cut. He has no interest in playing for the Wizards. End of story. If he plays **** enough, he'll be let go eventually


If that's his game, bench his arse, on his best day he isn't any better (or at best, is barely better) than anyone on the roster.
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Re: Wizards Sign Martell Webster

Postby REDardWIZskin on Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:25 am

Is there a buy out in Ariza's contract?
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Re: Wizards Sign Martell Webster

Postby fishercob on Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:51 am

REDardWIZskin wrote:Is there a buy out in Ariza's contract?


He has a player option. So if the Wiz brass makes it clear that (a) he's not going to play and/or (b) they are going to try to trade him (i.e. to a place Ariza does not choose) it increases the likelihood that Ariza will not exercise his option and will go sign somewhere he wants to play next summer. The fly in the oinment could that Ariza can't get a contract for more longterm money than the year he has left. Him stinking it up is therefore far from an ideal scenario.
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Re: Wizards Sign Martell Webster

Postby nate33 on Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:48 am

I'd park Ariza's ass all the way at the end of the bench behind Webster, Singleton and Martin. Tell him he better start committing to the team or he won't play a single minute this year and he'll be unlikely to ever sign a new contract in this league for more than the vet minimum.
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Re: Wizards Sign Martell Webster

Postby Rafael122 on Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:43 am

It's still my hope, and I've always maintained this, that Ariza is the more likely to exercise his opt out and bolt after 1 year giving us some breathing room cap wise. He'll get a contract worth more than $8 million, he's still young.
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Re: Wizards Sign Martell Webster

Postby tontoz on Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:09 am

Rafael122 wrote:It's still my hope, and I've always maintained this, that Ariza is the more likely to exercise his opt out and bolt after 1 year giving us some breathing room cap wise. He'll get a contract worth more than $8 million, he's still young.


No chance. The way he has played the last few years there is no way anyone would give him a contract like that again. He would be a fool to opt out.
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Re: Wizards Sign Martell Webster

Postby MikeTheKid on Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:46 am

tontoz wrote:
Rafael122 wrote:It's still my hope, and I've always maintained this, that Ariza is the more likely to exercise his opt out and bolt after 1 year giving us some breathing room cap wise. He'll get a contract worth more than $8 million, he's still young.


No chance. The way he has played the last few years there is no way anyone would give him a contract like that again. He would be a fool to opt out.


He'll never get 8 million, his Rockets contract was 5 yrs 30 mil so that'll never happen
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Re: Wizards Sign Martell Webster

Postby tontoz on Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:56 am

Webster is definitely a wild card. I have been assuming that Ariza would be the starter which would really hurt an offense that badly needs scoring (he is shooting 27% in preseason). If Webster becomes the starter and plays reasonably well that could give the offense a big boost. He is a career 37.4% shooter from 3.
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Re: Wizards Sign Martell Webster

Postby Dat2U on Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:11 pm

Wow, were still a week away from the season and were already regretting the Ariza acquisition. All I can SMDH!

I agree though with consensus that Ariza appears to be going through the motions, basically mailing it in. That's the risk of bad teams face when acquiring veterans that have won. Some vets want no part of it. While freaking out on the failure of their player development, the front office likely never considered the potential pitfalls of going the direction they've taken.
After the knee jerk reaction to Wizards failing with drafting & developing upside, I wonder how long it will take for fans & ownership to tire of the hard working low-upside vets we've acquired and wish for prospects with some upside once again?
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Re: Wizards Sign Martell Webster

Postby tontoz on Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:28 pm

Some of us were regretting it from Day 1. I screamed myself hoarse when it happened. :lol:
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Re: Wizards Sign Martell Webster

Postby miller31time on Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:31 pm

tontoz wrote:Some of us were regretting it from Day 1. I screamed myself hoarse when it happened. :lol:


Yup.

Nene (and the addition by subtraction of McGee and Young) was all the veteran presence we needed. But no, Ernie wanted to get even MORE veteran-y. Cost be damned.
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Re: Wizards Sign Martell Webster

Postby MikeTheKid on Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:44 pm

tontoz wrote:Some of us were regretting it from Day 1. I screamed myself hoarse when it happened. :lol:


THIS x1000

The thought of possibly getting Crowder, Draymond Green, Lamb, English, Machado, Denmon, Kris Joseph with that extra pick and buying out Lewis!

On a side note as Im posting this Stern is gonna retire in a year and a half HOLY S***
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Re: Wizards Sign Martell Webster

Postby fishercob on Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:11 pm

Through 3 games, Martell has an ORtg of 123 on a terrible offensive team. He has a TS% of .625 without the benefit of Wall or Nene creating offensive opportunities. How much more do you need to see before offering him a multi-year deal? His defense has been solid, yes? He turns 26 next month.

Is this a situation of a guy finally being healthy after several years being hurt and thus ineffective?

What would you pay him today?

If the Wiz gave him 3 yr $6M today, with the third year a team option I'd feel very good about it. That may not get it done; he's making $1.75M this season. Would you do 2 yrs $6m? 3/$9M?
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Re: Wizards Sign Martell Webster

Postby Induveca on Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:41 pm

Sadly I can confirm that from friend of a friend here in the DR (his father is from here, and they own a home close). Ariza apparently indeed hates DC and wants out.....

Sucks being a Dominican, was excited for him there....but it is what it is.....
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