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Re: Wizards Sign Martell Webster 

Post#136 » by The Consiglieri » Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:24 am

Jukeness wrote:He definately doesnt make smart decisions. At least not all of last year. He once dunked the ball with 2 seconds left when the Wolves were down by three.


Probably under order to lock up a nice pre-lottery slot for you guys in the draft. That, or he was watching a JaVale McGee motivational video before the game.

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Re: Wizards Sign Martell Webster 

Post#137 » by The Consiglieri » Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:26 am

AFM wrote:Let's just go ahead and say it

Ariza is pulling a Bibby/Lewis
Dude wants to be traded/cut. He has no interest in playing for the Wizards. End of story. If he plays **** enough, he'll be let go eventually


If that's his game, bench his arse, on his best day he isn't any better (or at best, is barely better) than anyone on the roster.

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Re: Wizards Sign Martell Webster 

Post#138 » by REDardWIZskin » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:25 am

Is there a buy out in Ariza's contract?
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Re: Wizards Sign Martell Webster 

Post#139 » by fishercob » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:51 am

REDardWIZskin wrote:Is there a buy out in Ariza's contract?


He has a player option. So if the Wiz brass makes it clear that (a) he's not going to play and/or (b) they are going to try to trade him (i.e. to a place Ariza does not choose) it increases the likelihood that Ariza will not exercise his option and will go sign somewhere he wants to play next summer. The fly in the oinment could that Ariza can't get a contract for more longterm money than the year he has left. Him stinking it up is therefore far from an ideal scenario.
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Re: Wizards Sign Martell Webster 

Post#140 » by nate33 » Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:48 am

I'd park Ariza's ass all the way at the end of the bench behind Webster, Singleton and Martin. Tell him he better start committing to the team or he won't play a single minute this year and he'll be unlikely to ever sign a new contract in this league for more than the vet minimum.

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Post#141 » by Rafael122 » Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:43 am

It's still my hope, and I've always maintained this, that Ariza is the more likely to exercise his opt out and bolt after 1 year giving us some breathing room cap wise. He'll get a contract worth more than $8 million, he's still young.
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Post#142 » by tontoz » Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:09 pm

Rafael122 wrote:It's still my hope, and I've always maintained this, that Ariza is the more likely to exercise his opt out and bolt after 1 year giving us some breathing room cap wise. He'll get a contract worth more than $8 million, he's still young.


No chance. The way he has played the last few years there is no way anyone would give him a contract like that again. He would be a fool to opt out.

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Re: Wizards Sign Martell Webster 

Post#143 » by MikeTheKid » Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:46 pm

tontoz wrote:
Rafael122 wrote:It's still my hope, and I've always maintained this, that Ariza is the more likely to exercise his opt out and bolt after 1 year giving us some breathing room cap wise. He'll get a contract worth more than $8 million, he's still young.


No chance. The way he has played the last few years there is no way anyone would give him a contract like that again. He would be a fool to opt out.


He'll never get 8 million, his Rockets contract was 5 yrs 30 mil so that'll never happen
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Re: Wizards Sign Martell Webster 

Post#144 » by tontoz » Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:56 pm

Webster is definitely a wild card. I have been assuming that Ariza would be the starter which would really hurt an offense that badly needs scoring (he is shooting 27% in preseason). If Webster becomes the starter and plays reasonably well that could give the offense a big boost. He is a career 37.4% shooter from 3.

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Post#145 » by Dat2U » Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:11 pm

Wow, were still a week away from the season and were already regretting the Ariza acquisition. All I can SMDH!

I agree though with consensus that Ariza appears to be going through the motions, basically mailing it in. That's the risk of bad teams face when acquiring veterans that have won. Some vets want no part of it. While freaking out on the failure of their player development, the front office likely never considered the potential pitfalls of going the direction they've taken.
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Post#146 » by tontoz » Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:28 pm

Some of us were regretting it from Day 1. I screamed myself hoarse when it happened. :lol:

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Post#147 » by miller31time » Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:31 pm

tontoz wrote:Some of us were regretting it from Day 1. I screamed myself hoarse when it happened. :lol:


Yup.

Nene (and the addition by subtraction of McGee and Young) was all the veteran presence we needed. But no, Ernie wanted to get even MORE veteran-y. Cost be damned.

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Re: Wizards Sign Martell Webster 

Post#148 » by MikeTheKid » Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:44 pm

tontoz wrote:Some of us were regretting it from Day 1. I screamed myself hoarse when it happened. :lol:


THIS x1000

The thought of possibly getting Crowder, Draymond Green, Lamb, English, Machado, Denmon, Kris Joseph with that extra pick and buying out Lewis!

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Re: Wizards Sign Martell Webster 

Post#149 » by fishercob » Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:11 pm

Through 3 games, Martell has an ORtg of 123 on a terrible offensive team. He has a TS% of .625 without the benefit of Wall or Nene creating offensive opportunities. How much more do you need to see before offering him a multi-year deal? His defense has been solid, yes? He turns 26 next month.

Is this a situation of a guy finally being healthy after several years being hurt and thus ineffective?

What would you pay him today?

If the Wiz gave him 3 yr $6M today, with the third year a team option I'd feel very good about it. That may not get it done; he's making $1.75M this season. Would you do 2 yrs $6m? 3/$9M?
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Post#150 » by Induveca » Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:41 pm

Sadly I can confirm that from friend of a friend here in the DR (his father is from here, and they own a home close). Ariza apparently indeed hates DC and wants out.....

Sucks being a Dominican, was excited for him there....but it is what it is.....

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Post#151 » by fishercob » Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:44 pm

Induveca wrote:Sadly I can confirm that from friend of a friend here in the DR (his father is from here, and they own a home close). Ariza apparently indeed hates DC and wants out.....

Sucks being a Dominican, was excited for him there....but it is what it is.....


Great! I invite him to opt out this summer and he can go sign wherever he pleases. I'm sure he could average double figures in the Dominican league.
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Re: Wizards Sign Martell Webster 

Post#152 » by Nivek » Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:53 pm

If the Wiz could sign him that cheap, sure...why not? But there's no rush with Webster. He's been good so far, but it's preseason and 3 games, and he has a lengthy record of subpar play.
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Post#153 » by Induveca » Thu Nov 8, 2012 5:46 pm

Apparently he thinks the city is "boring". No freaking clue how he considered New Orleans more appealing. Maybe his New York and LA stints ruined him, he has in fact been all downhill after leaving LA.

Too bad, millions of people are rooting for him down here. First Felipe Lopez, now this....sigh.

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Post#154 » by tontoz » Thu Nov 8, 2012 6:09 pm

Induveca wrote:Apparently he thinks the city is "boring". No freaking clue how he considered New Orleans more appealing. Maybe his New York and LA stints ruined him, he has in fact been all downhill after leaving LA.

Too bad, millions of people are rooting for him down here. First Felipe Lopez, now this....sigh.



I am rooting for him too, rooting for him to get benched and/or get out of town.

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Re: Wizards Sign Martell Webster 

Post#155 » by nate33 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:13 pm

Just wanted to bump this thread. Webster is our one glimmer of light in this miserable year.

Per 36, he is averaging 14.7 points, 6 boards, 2.3 assists, .9 steals and .7 blocks while maintaining a TS% of .639%, a 3P% of .405 and a PER of 15.5 on low usage. He is also a very good defender. Basically, he is doing everything we wanted Nicolas Batum to do, but for about 1/8th the cost.

The encouraging thing is that his improved play over his career averages might be somewhat sustainable. He started his career very young and logged several seasons before he understood the game. By the time he figured the game out, he got hurt. This might be the first time we've seen a mature Martell Webster who is injury free. Also, one of the main reasons for his improvement in efficiency is that he has nearly doubled his FTA rate from his career averages - something that might be sustainable.

And he has done it all with no PG play. Hopefully, he'll get an opportunity to start and prove that his numbers aren't a fluke. He might even improve once Wall gets back.


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