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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part I 

Post#1301 » by hands11 » Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:13 pm

nate33 wrote:Porter having a monster night against Syracuse. He has 26 of the team's 41 points. He also has 7 boards, 2 assists, 4 steals and 0 turnovers. The way he moves so smoothly and effortlessly kinda reminds me of Scottie Pippen. He doesn't have Pippen's handle, but other than that, they are quite similar, only Porter shoots better.



Yeep. And that was against the 8th seed. Not bad.

Withey was POTG though they only played TCU.

Plenty of targets in this draft. Just have to find the right fit like Beal was.

Gotta find that talented player that fits who is smart, mature and driven. Seems there are several in this draft.

I question if McLemore makes that list. He hasn't made mine so far. But I will keep an open mind. Same with Shabazz. They just don't fit the mold I like which is more toward players like

Otto, Victor, CJM, Withey, maybe Zeller. Maybe Bennett. I need to watch more.

Go for the can't miss pieces that will fits in and can produce in their first year if needed. Solid floor with upside.

Clearly a center makes the most sense with the top pick. I gotta watch more Zeller and Len. Austin reminds me of McGee to much to want to take him. Not sold on Smart at all and we have other needs. If anything, get a vet back up PG or find one in the 2nd.

I don't see them using the pick on Victor which is a shame. He needs to go to a team that will start him and we have Beal. But man I I loved him from the start. Might just need to add him anyway regardless of need.

Otto and Withey would be a good draft. Lots of time to think about it. We will see.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part I 

Post#1302 » by Earth2Ted » Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:15 pm

nate33 wrote:Porter having a monster night against Syracuse. He has 26 of the team's 41 points. He also has 7 boards, 2 assists, 4 steals and 0 turnovers. The way he moves so smoothly and effortlessly kinda reminds me of Scottie Pippen. He doesn't have Pippen's handle, but other than that, they are quite similar, only Porter shoots better.


Wow. Phenomenal performance in the Carrier Dome against a Syracuse team bringing some serious defensive intensity.

I don't think he's nearly the athlete that Pippen was, but with his length, skill set, and smarts he'd fit very well with Wall, Beal, and Nene (as everyone else is saying).

The question is, does ernie pick Porter or Alex Len? :D
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part I 

Post#1303 » by Dat2U » Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:20 pm

Porter was already in my top 5. Outside of Noel, he's probably my favorite choice. Smart fills out my top 3.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part I 

Post#1304 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:21 pm

hands11, agree a Porter/Withey draft would make me happy.

Keep Webster, keep team as currently constructed with those 2 added, and I like it. Wall, Beal, Porter would be a foundation worth building on.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part I 

Post#1305 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:55 pm

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:At this point I'm just expecting Porter to be a Wizard next season. Just seems almost too good a fit. His skillset, his demeanor & personality. Local player & Leonsis a big Gtown fan icing on the cake.

Probably so, SUPERBALLMAN. If it comes down between Zeller, Porter, Len, Smart, and Oladipo …

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Leonsis

Leonsis is currently on the board of directors at Georgetown University, his alma mater.

His daughter, Elle, is a student at Georgetown University.


The good news is Porter would be a very good addition.

I think he makes a ton of sense for the Wizards.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part I 

Post#1306 » by Wizardspride » Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:03 am

nate33 wrote:Porter having a monster night against Syracuse. He has 26 of the team's 41 points. He also has 7 boards, 2 assists, 4 steals and 0 turnovers. The way he moves so smoothly and effortlessly kinda reminds me of Scottie Pippen. He doesn't have Pippen's handle, but other than that, they are quite similar, only Porter shoots better.


Final numbers: 33pts, 8 boards, 5 assists etc.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part I 

Post#1307 » by hands11 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:11 am

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:hands11, agree a Porter/Withey draft would make me happy.

Keep Webster, keep team as currently constructed with those 2 added, and I like it. Wall, Beal, Porter would be a foundation worth building on.


Its looking like that wouldn't suck now doesn't it.

Hold onto that and keep evaluating other options against that.

Not a bad place to start as a baseline. :wink:

Key could be, what to give up to get that extra pick.

I've said for a while I wouldn't move any of Nene, Okafor, or Trevor A. Both Oak and Trevor A should be kept and evaluated as the team grows. Two more years of year cheaper gives them a solid foundation as they add pieces.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part I 

Post#1308 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:12 am

All of the reasons why they gave away Jordan Crawford are the reasons why to draft Otto Porter.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part I 

Post#1309 » by gambitx777 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:34 am

The sad thing is Porter is almost perfect, so E.G. will pick a euro guy instead. I still feel that we should really really try to pick up a mid round pick. I think we should really try to get both porter and Olynyk.

, Olynyk and porter would be a great young core along wit beal and wall.

Also, could we find another point guard in the draft if we decide to trade wall for a pick and some other young players.

McCoullum, Smart,Williams, or burke? could any of them really be that much better than wall? I think maybe but it depends on which one we can draft and who we get a long in the over all deal.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part I 

Post#1310 » by dandrews » Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:36 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:The consensus the year Millsap came out was that Shelden Wlliams was the top PF/C. He went 5th and Millsap went 47. I remember specifically saying Millsap should be picked in the lottery and that he was better than Williams, Alexander Johnson, and very much better than Pecherov. I thought Millsap was a no-brainer pick for the Wizards at 17. What shocked me was Millsap slipped all the way to #47.

I was certain about Millsap because not only did he break rebounding records belonging to Tim Duncan among other great stars, and not only did he lead the nation in rebounding three straight seasons, Millsap also had very high blocks and steals at LA Tech. With that, he also scored well against NCAA powerhouse programs. Millsap's athleticism was on display with everything he could do on the basketball court in NCAA play.

To not see how good Millsap was made me seriously question a lot of NBA GMs and scouts. Just like with Faried, how could they NOT SEE how good Kenneth Faried would be?

Nivek, this year's Millsap/Faried player, who I think will be drafted far too low: Andre Roberson

He's projected to go in round two. When you have the time I wonder how YODA rates Roberson? I think Roberson is a lottery-level athlete. Colorado has defeated teams like Arizona and Oregon, and Roberson is a BEAST on the boards. Roberson is a tremendous defender who I think, like Kawhi Leonard, can guard on the perimeter and make the transition from NCAA PF to NBA SF. I hope the Wizards at least work out Roberson, but I know they won't.


To be fair, you said the same thing about Jae Crowder as well.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part I 

Post#1311 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:58 am

dandrews wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:The consensus the year Millsap came out was that Shelden Wlliams was the top PF/C. He went 5th and Millsap went 47. I remember specifically saying Millsap should be picked in the lottery and that he was better than Williams, Alexander Johnson, and very much better than Pecherov. I thought Millsap was a no-brainer pick for the Wizards at 17. What shocked me was Millsap slipped all the way to #47.

I was certain about Millsap because not only did he break rebounding records belonging to Tim Duncan among other great stars, and not only did he lead the nation in rebounding three straight seasons, Millsap also had very high blocks and steals at LA Tech. With that, he also scored well against NCAA powerhouse programs. Millsap's athleticism was on display with everything he could do on the basketball court in NCAA play.

To not see how good Millsap was made me seriously question a lot of NBA GMs and scouts. Just like with Faried, how could they NOT SEE how good Kenneth Faried would be?

Nivek, this year's Millsap/Faried player, who I think will be drafted far too low: Andre Roberson

He's projected to go in round two. When you have the time I wonder how YODA rates Roberson? I think Roberson is a lottery-level athlete. Colorado has defeated teams like Arizona and Oregon, and Roberson is a BEAST on the boards. Roberson is a tremendous defender who I think, like Kawhi Leonard, can guard on the perimeter and make the transition from NCAA PF to NBA SF. I hope the Wizards at least work out Roberson, but I know they won't.


To be fair, you said the same thing about Jae Crowder as well.


No, to be honest Kevin Broom and doclinkin and many others were all praising Crowder. I wasn't leading the bandwagon on Jae. I did post a lot about him after they pointed him out. Crowder had better stats at Marquette than guys like Jimmy Butler and Wesley Matthew. I remember saying he was can't miss, but Crowder wasn't a guy I was NEARLY as passionate about than Millsap or Faried.

Crowder's steals, threes, and very few turnovers stood out. I still think he's going to be good NBA player.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part I 

Post#1312 » by Knighthonor » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:31 am

Confused about what to upgrade. What position need upgrade?
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part I 

Post#1313 » by nate33 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:36 am

Knighthonor wrote:Confused about what to upgrade. What position need upgrade?

We need a big man of the future. Nene and Okafor are real good, but they won't be around for too long. We need to get a top tier caliber big man now while we're still at the top of the lottery. You can find decent swing man in the middle of the first round (where we figure to pick in upcoming years).

I'd take Noel first no doubt. I'm not sure about Zeller because I'm worried about his length, but I'd probably take him 2nd. If we end up picking 4th or 5th and we end up with Porter or Oladipo, I wouldn't be all that upset.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part I 

Post#1314 » by Rafael122 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:14 am

Been hyping Porter for months, about time some of yall have come around on the guy. He's probably the most complete player in this draft. He's my top prospect, especially now that Noel is hurt. He's a future 3, can do a little bit of everything. He's basically Shawn Marion lite. He probably won't be a top 3 pick, but it bodes well for us if we start playing better. And I would not hesitate in trading our 2 second round picks and swapping our first rounder to move up and get him.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part I 

Post#1315 » by nate33 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:27 am

Rafael122 wrote:And I would not hesitate in trading our 2 second round picks and swapping our first rounder to move up and get him.

Are you suggesting swapping our 2014 1st to get a 2nd pick in 2013 for Porter?

I'd probably do it. With Porter plus another high draft pick, to go with our existing team, it's pretty tough to see how we would end up in the high lottery next year. So we'd be trading a 2014 pick in the teens for a 2013 pick in the top 8 or so. That's pretty much a no-brainer. Not sure if another team would do it though. I guess it all depends on how well they think we will play next year.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part I 

Post#1316 » by Rafael122 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:37 am

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Rafael122 wrote:And I would not hesitate in trading our 2 second round picks and swapping our first rounder to move up and get him.

Are you suggesting swapping our 2014 1st to get a 2nd pick in 2013 for Porter?

I'd probably do it. With Porter plus another high draft pick, to go with our existing team, it's pretty tough to see how we would end up in the high lottery next year. So we'd be trading a 2014 pick in the teens for a 2013 pick in the top 8 or so. That's pretty much a no-brainer. Not sure if another team would do it though. I guess it all depends on how well they think we will play next year.


Well let's just say we pick 7th and Porter's not going to last until then, swap firsts this year, and trade our 2 2013 2nd round picks as well to move up. I don't think the Wizards are going to add 3 more rookies to this team.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part I 

Post#1317 » by nate33 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:43 am

Rafael122 wrote:
nate33 wrote:
Rafael122 wrote:And I would not hesitate in trading our 2 second round picks and swapping our first rounder to move up and get him.

Are you suggesting swapping our 2014 1st to get a 2nd pick in 2013 for Porter?

I'd probably do it. With Porter plus another high draft pick, to go with our existing team, it's pretty tough to see how we would end up in the high lottery next year. So we'd be trading a 2014 pick in the teens for a 2013 pick in the top 8 or so. That's pretty much a no-brainer. Not sure if another team would do it though. I guess it all depends on how well they think we will play next year.


Well let's just say we pick 7th and Porter's not going to last until then, swap firsts this year, and trade our 2 2013 2nd round picks as well to move up. I don't think the Wizards are going to add 3 more rookies to this team.

Oh. I guess it depends on who is still on the board. I figure Noel, Zeller, McLemore and Muhammed go before Porter. So Porter isn't going anywhere before 5th. If we're picking 7th, that would leave all but one of Lin, Oladipo, Smart, Bennett and Austin still on the board. I'm not sure if I'd trade up for Porter if somebody like Oladipo was there with our pick.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part I 

Post#1318 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:46 am

Rafael122 wrote:Been hyping Porter for months, about time some of yall have come around on the guy. He's probably the most complete player in this draft. He's my top prospect, especially now that Noel is hurt. He's a future 3, can do a little bit of everything. He's basically Shawn Marion lite. He probably won't be a top 3 pick, but it bodes well for us if we start playing better. And I would not hesitate in trading our 2 second round picks and swapping our first rounder to move up and get him.


How about this: I wouldn't hesitate to draft down for Porter, either.

Jamison was drafted ahead of Vince Carter, and they were swapped on draft day. Roy and Foye were also swapped. If the Wizards luck out with top 5 pick at 4 or so, I think instead of going Zeller or McLemore or Shabazz, the Wizards could choose them and trade for Porter, who is projected to go around 8-10 right now.

Porter and Smart seem very low risk to me. If the Wizard chose Smart, I think they would not regret it, but it would be hard to justify passing on guys like Len and Porter.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part I 

Post#1319 » by nuposse04 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:03 am

If we're picking like 2 or 3, I wouldn't be opposed to trading down to the 5-10 range in order to acquire Porter...maybe picking up a mid 1st in the process, and then taking the best project big available (Ideally Austin, his upside is pretty damn high).
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part I 

Post#1320 » by mhd » Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:06 am

The only reason we would trade down would be unload a bad salary or get back a good asset. Well, with Emeka and Ariza expiring, we don't have any bad salaries. Aside from Noel, I don't see any teams willing to trade up for a top 3 pick. I think we'll finish in the 6-10 range where Noel, Zeller, Smart, Porter, Shabaaz, and Len are all gone. At that point, I'd take Bennett and hope he avoids becoming Derrick Williams 2.0.

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