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Postby pancakes3 on Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:22 pm

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Re: ~~~2013 (DRAFT) thread ~~~tank it!!

Postby Ed Wood on Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:38 pm

As do we all.

For instance myself, when I point out that Alexey Shved is proving to be a pretty competent NBA player, not that we could have used a solid young point guard who's a viable perimeter threat going into the year.

Yeah, that's nice.
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Postby DMVleGeND on Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:30 pm

WizarDynasty wrote:pictures can be very misleading, show me a video of hakeem displaying poor lower body strength on rebounds and post defense. I've seen quite a few of the crappy center prospects in this draft.
Kareem would look skinny two but he had very heavy bones and didn't get pushed around easily at any level. Not the case with most the crappy defensive center prospects in this draft.
Lower legs strength and bone density is heavily genetic.
guys who haven't developed lower body strength by age 18 just aren't meant to man the post full time. they are defensive specialist. I compare them to the a third down back in football that can catch the ball but he can't take the pounding on every down because he does't have the frame.
You need a certain frame to be a dominant post player. We should have drafted Drummond if we wanted a center prospect.


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Re: ~~~2013 (DRAFT) thread ~~~tank it!!

Postby BruceO on Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:50 pm

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hope beal does well but he was never on my radar as a prospect, always
loved mkg when he was ranked low and worse than barnes. things changed
once kentucky play unc and the ranking flipped. after him i wanted
drummond. never been a fan of undersized players at their position

also just imagine a big rotation that includes nene, seraphin and drummond wouldn't need okafor. also i think proper sized bigs who can rebound and defend are rarer than small sg's. i mean good pg's and sg's are there every draft at our draft level
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Postby DANNYLANDOVER on Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:07 pm

BruceO wrote:i
hope beal does well but he was never on my radar as a prospect, always
loved mkg when he was ranked low and worse than barnes. things changed
once kentucky play unc and the ranking flipped. after him i wanted
drummond. never been a fan of undersized players at their position

also just imagine a big rotation that includes nene, seraphin and drummond wouldn't need okafor. also i think proper sized bigs who can rebound and defend are rarer than small sg's. i mean good pg's and sg's are there every draft at our draft level

+1 no matter how good the SG shoots, if he's undersized and not a playmaker, he has no business being drafted top 5 IMO.
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Re: ~~~2013 (DRAFT) thread ~~~tank it!!

Postby DANNYLANDOVER on Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:15 pm

As much as I like the 2014 draft with all the top rated wing players...Wiggins, Parker, Harrison, Ledo, Gordon, etc., we shouldn't even think about trading this year's draft pick. I'm pretty positive that there will be a good player by the end of the season and we could possibly win the lotto.
If Shabazz is the best player, I say pick him. Having Beal is absolutely no reason to not pick an elite SG with the top pick. I believe we're gonna suck again next year though, Ted and Ernie will make sure of that.
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Postby Jay81 on Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:27 am

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Postby truwizfan4evr on Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:25 pm

This a one player draft who could wizards pick out side of Shabazz this year draft?
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Postby Ed Wood on Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:49 pm

Someone who's actually been exceptional at the college level probably, though the combination of a lack of games to judge, the eligibility weirdness and the Howland Effect (TM) make it hard to really judge him fairly right now. But really it'll probably be James McAdoo or something because we're the Wizards.

Is there a consensus "anybody but that guy" guy yet? Is it McAdoo?

Also, for the Shabazz contingent, why are you sold on him? Honestly I don't see much right now beyond a solid but not exceptional start to his college career, a lot of residual attention based on recruit ranking stuff and probably nice youtube highlights, which isn't an overwhelming package. What else is there?
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Postby AFM on Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:15 am

Too hard to say based on his college performance. Talk to me in March.
But he's been on my radar for the last year. Dude has good size and athleticism for his position. Seems to have a complete game. Post up, driving, popping it from outside.
I haven't watched a full UCLA game so take my words with a grain of salt.
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Postby Dr Positivity on Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:35 am

Ed Wood wrote:Someone who's actually been exceptional at the college level probably, though the combination of a lack of games to judge, the eligibility weirdness and the Howland Effect (TM) make it hard to really judge him fairly right now. But really it'll probably be James McAdoo or something because we're the Wizards.

Is there a consensus "anybody but that guy" guy yet? Is it McAdoo?

Also, for the Shabazz contingent, why are you sold on him? Honestly I don't see much right now beyond a solid but not exceptional start to his college career, a lot of residual attention based on recruit ranking stuff and probably nice youtube highlights, which isn't an overwhelming package. What else is there?


I'm guessing Gobert will be just about every fanbase's "anyone but that guy" player
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Postby closg00 on Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:29 am

Damn, when is Irving coming back? The Cavs are challenging us in the tank-race again......Toronto also.
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Re: ~~~2013 (DRAFT) thread ~~~tank it!!

Postby pancakes3 on Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:23 am

I'm questionable on the expectations that people have on Shabazz. He's not an franchise wing in the mold of kobe or wade. He's putting up 16ppg on good-not-great percentages and has a disturbing low assist total (4 assists in 6 games). Beal has identical scoring and better overall collegiate stats.

I wouldn't even put Shabazz on the "very good" tier with OJ Mayo. I'd optimistically expect him to be like Afflalo at best and not to contribute meaningfully until his 4th or 5th season. At worst, Ronnie Brewer.
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Re: ~~~2013 (DRAFT) thread ~~~tank it!!

Postby Chocolate City Jordanaire on Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:38 am

I like Michael Carter Williams, Syracuse, a lot. Right now he's putting up absolutely sick numbers for an undefeated Orange squad.

(His last game he had 15 points, 16 assists, 5 steals and 4 blocks against Monmouth. :o )

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Re: ~~~2013 (DRAFT) thread ~~~tank it!!

Postby Ed Wood on Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:40 pm

The steals, blocks and rebounds are pretty dreamy, but two things still give me pause about Carter-Williams, his really lackluster scoring numbers and the enormous boner "basketball purists" always get for guys on good college teams with a lot of assists. You end up having a lot of the guy's perceived value wrapped up in "leadership" and "savvy" and butterflies and he-can-take-my-daughter-out-for-the-evening factor or whatever and you're just not getting good value anymore. Then you have lottery pick Kendall Marshall, and that's less exciting.
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