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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing

Postby closg00 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:50 pm

We meant a team option to renew, not a player option.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing

Postby montestewart on Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:04 am

closg00 wrote:We meant a team option to renew, not a player option.

I thought all of DS's options were team options. DS and his agent reportedly tried to play hardball with the Magic and eventually the magic had used up their payroll and roster, and DS with no suitors. A rare instance of Ernie "I'm the Sucker at the Table" Grunfeld having leverage, as he signed both Songaila and Stevenson (the original Okariza) to offset the crippling loss of Jeffries. But you know, maybe it was a player option. I could see EG having all that leverage and still blowing it.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing

Postby MF23 on Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:08 am

Everything in that article was way too polished. I want to hear hunger and working to get better in all aspects.

This is unacceptable. This is not the time for wait and see. You have to work hard to get this team going in the right direction.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing

Postby Benjammin on Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:11 am

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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing

Postby Chocolate City Jordanaire on Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:54 am

Not me, but I bet I know who did. :lol:
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing

Postby diaboliQ_Mo on Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:33 am

It's all EG tryin savin face. A bunch of malarkeys.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wi ... story.html
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing

Postby Chocolate City Jordanaire on Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:21 am

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wi ... story.html

Nene has played in just five games as he recovers from plantar fasciitis in his left foot but Grunfeld points out that with the Brazilian big man playing limited minutes, the Wizards have won two of those games. They lost in overtime in the other two, including his debut in Atlanta, where the Wizards will have a chance on Friday to avenge one of the toughest losses of the season.


The Wizards have had 10 games decided by seven games or fewer, including three that went beyond regulation. They have also improved defensively, ranking 16th in points allowed (97.9), and are one of the league’s better rebounding teams, ranking 10th at 43.2 per game.


Randy has got these guys playing hard and competing on a nightly basis,” he said. “I think the character of our players is showing.”
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing

Postby MJG on Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:05 am

Whenever I read anything from Grunfeld or Ted, all I really get out of it is "Yes, we're terrible, but if we had been a little bit luckier over the past month, we probably would be mediocre instead!"

I really wish they'd all just stop talking altogether. I'm not really the quoting type, but the old "better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt" adage seems pretty applicable.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing

Postby payitforward on Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:06 am


More self-justifying BS.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing

Postby Higga on Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:35 am

Ugh, is there a bigger loser in sports than Ernie Grunfeld? I mean seriously. Guy sets goals for mediocrity and can't even attain that, then makes up loser excuse BS.

I'm so sick of this clown. And Ted is now on the blame train as well for sticking with this loser.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing

Postby leswizards on Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:51 am

montestewart wrote:EG put an option in Deshawn Stevenson's contract, then found himself morbidly compelled to resign DS to a four year, $15 million dollar deal, when there were no other apparent bidders for DS's services. EG learned from this real life gothic horror. No more option years or milkshakes right before bedtime.


I am pretty certain that there were no options involved in Deshawn's contract. EG just wanted Deshawn and was willing to bid against himself to get him. To make matters worse, that was the off season that Juan Carlos Navarro finally said he wanted to play in the NBA. EG could have had Juan Carlos Navarro for less, and on a shorter contract. But, EG had his heart set on Deshawn and he got him. However, since he put a priority on signing Deshawn Stevenson, the trade market dried up on Juan Carlos Navarro, and the trade offers went from a guarnteed first from a contender like Miami to a highly protected first round pick from Memphis (the pick was so protected that at the time it looked like Washington would never get anything but cash).
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing

Postby Zonkerbl on Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:26 pm

mmm, I want a milkshake now.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing

Postby WizarDynasty on Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:38 pm

Ariza - all nba perimeter defender. We have searched for him for a decade. Livingston the highest BBIQ backup point guard we have ever had. Okafor is way better than Haywood.
My problem with EG his inability to sign these outstanding free fits for the washington with a 2nd year team option.

All Stevenson can't sniff Ariza's jock strap. Ariza was critical piece of a championship team and is probably the best perimeter defender we have ever had. He also has league wide Respect for guarding elite perimeter players like Kobe well. Ariza is a serious piece to our puzzle going forward as well livingston. Okafor is decent just paid to much. Price is nice but no where near Livingston as far as wizard future goes. If EG figures out how to get livingston, webster, and ariza to commit beyond this season before the end of December, i believe that is grounds for giving EG a contract extension. Just let Newman changed the culture.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing

Postby nuposse04 on Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:06 pm

WizarDynasty wrote:Ariza - all nba perimeter defender. We have searched for him for a decade. Livingston the highest BBIQ backup point guard we have ever had. Okafor is way better than Haywood.
My problem with EG his inability to sign these outstanding free fits for the washington with a 2nd year team option.

All Stevenson can't sniff Ariza's jock strap. Ariza was critical piece of a championship team and is probably the best perimeter defender we have ever had. He also has league wide Respect for guarding elite perimeter players like Kobe well. Ariza is a serious piece to our puzzle going forward as well livingston. Okafor is decent just paid to much. Price is nice but no where near Livingston as far as wizard future goes. If EG figures out how to get livingston, webster, and ariza to commit beyond this season before the end of December, i believe that is grounds for giving EG a contract extension. Just let Newman changed the culture.


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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing

Postby payitforward on Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:24 pm

WizarDynasty wrote:Ariza - all nba perimeter defender. We have searched for him for a decade. Livingston the highest BBIQ backup point guard we have ever had. Okafor is way better than Haywood.
My problem with EG his inability to sign these outstanding free fits for the washington with a 2nd year team option.

... If EG figures out how to get livingston, webster, and ariza to commit beyond this season before the end of December, i believe that is grounds for giving EG a contract extension.

Oh absolutely... give him the Nobel Prize if he can get Ariza and Okafor extended beyond this year. A contract extension isn't enough.

Here's a question for you: what would it be like if you spoke about this subject after first learning something about it?

Okafor and Ariza are *both* under contract next year (in Ariza's case, he has a player-option at North of $7m, which you can be sure he'll take. He ain't making that kind of $$ anywhere else!).

So... now that we can't *extend* Ernie, can we fire him instead?
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