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Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust

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Is Jan Vesely a Bust?

Yes, I've seen enough, Jan Vesely is a Bust for a 6th pick
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No, let's wait to see how he plays with JW and Nene
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Post#261 Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust
Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:41 pm by nate33

Nivek wrote:Nate: Am I gonna have to fight you about how you describe on/off stats? :) The on/off stats don't say Wall is having a huge impact on defense. The stats say the TEAM defense has been better with Wall on the floor. They don't say that Wall is responsible for that change.

Looking for causality is what led to my defensive tracking project lo those many years ago.

Of course, you are correct. I was trying to be brief and ended up imprecise.
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Post#262 Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust
Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:48 pm by fishercob

Nivek wrote:Nate: Am I gonna have to fight you about how you describe on/off stats? :) The on/off stats don't say Wall is having a huge impact on defense. The stats say the TEAM defense has been better with Wall on the floor. They don't say that Wall is responsible for that change.

Looking for causality is what led to my defensive tracking project lo those many years ago.


Well, we know from Ted's Take that when AJ Price was on the floor the Pacers were the best defensive team of all time. Since he's Wall's backup, I'm pretty sure that Wall is the best defender since Bill Russell. Because, ya know.... Ted's Take! With all the empathy and optionality and stuff!
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Post#263 Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust
Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:54 pm by Upper Decker

Vesely is so dreadfully awful on offense it literally kills the half court offense. Ariza's not much better, but Vesely is such a liability you can't play him more than a few minutes at a time without totally swinging the game.
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Post#264 Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust
Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:06 am by Induveca

Nivek wrote:Unless we're going to credit Wall for guys performing better when he's in uniform but not on the floor.


The team is playing with far more energy/speed/decisiveness since Wall's return.

I wouldn't discount practice time with Wall. Employees always step their game up when a dynamic middle manager is injected into a stalled project.
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Post#265 Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust
Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:54 pm by dobrojim

nate33 wrote:
Nivek wrote:Nate: Am I gonna have to fight you about how you describe on/off stats? :) The on/off stats don't say Wall is having a huge impact on defense. The stats say the TEAM defense has been better with Wall on the floor. They don't say that Wall is responsible for that change.

Looking for causality is what led to my defensive tracking project lo those many years ago.

Of course, you are correct. I was trying to be brief and ended up imprecise.


how could you?
A lot of what we call 'thought' is just mental activity
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Post#266 Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust
Tue Feb 5, 2013 11:56 pm by Knighthonor

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INIXanSQy0Y[/youtube]

What The ****! ? !

I got questions and want some answers on this... :x
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Post#267 Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust
Wed Feb 6, 2013 12:37 am by dangermouse

If your question is "why isnt he throwing it down on the NBA like that?"

he answer is: NBA players are much much bigger and much much more athletic and much much better than Euroleague guys.

I still think he needs to play with the energy and heart that he played with overseas. He doesnt seem to be bringing it quite as much here.
Fri Jul 5, 2013 4:36 am by dangermouse
dangermouse wrote:44 is my best guess.

I think we make the playoffs, no lower than 6th seed.
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Post#268 Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust
Wed Feb 6, 2013 6:20 am by closg00

Knighthonor wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INIXanSQy0Y[/youtube]

What The ****! ? !

I got questions and want some answers on this... :x


Yeah, we all want some answers. How can a GM and scouting department that were unanimous in selecting JV, still have jobs?
Guys on a message board could do a better job managing the Wizards than Ernie Grunfeld.
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Post#269 Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust
Wed Feb 6, 2013 8:30 am by Nivek

It's a highlight reel. A similar video could be put together for his NBA career. Players usually look really impressive when all you see is their best plays.
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Post#270 Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust
Wed Feb 6, 2013 10:05 am by tontoz

Nivek wrote:It's a highlight reel. A similar video could be put together for his NBA career. Players usually look really impressive when all you see is their best plays.


Before Yi was drafted i remember people making a big deal of his youtube clips. There were people on a Hawks board that were all for drafting him instead of Horford.
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Post#271 Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust
Wed Feb 6, 2013 12:28 pm by Zonkerbl

Comparing Rose to Wall is like asking which is a more impressive cat: A cheetah or a wolf? Dude, Wall ain’t no damn cat!
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Post#272 Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust
Wed Feb 6, 2013 12:29 pm by Kanyewest

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Post#273 Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust
Wed Feb 6, 2013 12:34 pm by Zonkerbl

Ok, enough of that crap. Now for the only highlight reel you will ever see that includes a defensive rebound:
Kevin Love:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-SMaqwCcCU
Comparing Rose to Wall is like asking which is a more impressive cat: A cheetah or a wolf? Dude, Wall ain’t no damn cat!
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Post#274 Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust
Wed Feb 6, 2013 1:13 pm by GhostsOfGil

Damn I tried to find a Michael Ruffin highlight reel but couldn't find anything.
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Post#275 Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust
Wed Feb 6, 2013 1:15 pm by montestewart

GhostsOfGil wrote:Damn I tried to find a Michael Ruffin highlight reel but couldn't find anything.

I found it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqgYNPANWa0
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Post#276 Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust
Thu Feb 7, 2013 11:40 pm by AFM

How hilarious would it be if we sent Jan Vesely to all star week for the 3 point contest. Just to troll the NBA
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Post#277 Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust
Fri Feb 8, 2013 1:59 pm by GhostsOfGil

montestewart wrote:
GhostsOfGil wrote:Damn I tried to find a Michael Ruffin highlight reel but couldn't find anything.

I found it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqgYNPANWa0


Best part of that play was Buck loosing his mind.

AFM wrote:How hilarious would it be if we sent Jan Vesely to all star week for the 3 point contest. Just to troll the NBA


Or what if Jan was just trolling us and scored 30.
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Post#278 Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust
Fri Feb 8, 2013 2:18 pm by nate33

Big game tonight!

A win tonight against Brooklyn would give the Wizards a win percentage higher than Vesely's free throw percentage.
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Post#279 Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust
Fri Feb 8, 2013 2:22 pm by montestewart

nate33 wrote:Big game tonight!

A win tonight against Brooklyn would give the Wizards a win percentage higher than Vesely's free throw percentage.

Maybe he'll make it to the line tonight, and his destiny will be in his own hands.
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Post#280 Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust
Fri Feb 8, 2013 2:27 pm by AFM

GhostsOfGil wrote:
montestewart wrote:
GhostsOfGil wrote:Damn I tried to find a Michael Ruffin highlight reel but couldn't find anything.

I found it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqgYNPANWa0


Best part of that play was Buck loosing his mind.

AFM wrote:How hilarious would it be if we sent Jan Vesely to all star week for the 3 point contest. Just to troll the NBA


Or what if Jan was just trolling us and scored 30.

He shoots all of his 3's as turn around fadeaways
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