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Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust

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Is Jan Vesely a Bust?

Yes, I've seen enough, Jan Vesely is a Bust for a 6th pick
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Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust 

Post#41 » by hands11 » Sun Dec 2, 2012 4:37 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Vesely is not worse despite the statistics and his play in games.

I wish people like Michael Lee understood better why things appear the way they do. I wish Ted and Ernie understood how being dominated in practice by Okafor, Nene, Seraphin, Booker, and Singleton has not helped Vesely. Getting moved back because more bodies were added to the team has hurt him. Having limited opportunities for minutes has hurt. Playing for the stupidest GM/team in the league is more to blame.

Headlines like the one Lee has only do more of the same DUMB stuff. Blame McGee. Blame Blatche. Blame Nick Young. Cut Shelvin Mack. Hate Vesely all the way back to Europe.

The Wizards front office is like an alligator that eats its own young. Fans and local media vent and blame young players who have such little impact on the outcome of games when the true culprit is a very bad general manager who never should have drafted him 6th.

Vesely can be a very useful basketball player and I am pulling for him to be traded to another team so that like those other players he can be happy elsewhere. Put Vesely on the Lakers bench right now and you will see just how misplaced and dumb the criticisms leveled at Jan Vesely are.

Ernie is a fool for not impressing upon Ted Leonsis the concept of minutes and opportunity for young players being important. Bring in marginal veterans ahead of them and they don't play. They don't play and they lose confidence. Seraphin has turned into a real shot jacker this season. His selfish play stands out. The ball is like a hot potato and he cannot wait to shoot all of a sudden. Was he like that last season? Could he be impatient or playing anxiously?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... pke01.html

Lee is attacking Vesely, because IMO people are like chickens. When chickens are gathered together, if one chick gets pecked it can set off a frenzy. Many other chicks will peck the one until it is dead. What the journalist and others might note is how Kevin has fallen off. Check his PER and WS/48. Much worse than last season. Mike Lee, you want to write another hatchet article? Kevin Seraphin can be your next victim. It is really easy to print stuff like that.

But just like Vesely, Kevin Seraphin is NOT any worse.

I posted about this the day the Okariza trade went down. This is EXACTLY what I predicted that day. The reasons are the GM and the owner and anyone else who does not understand how few minutes are available and how to develop a roster.


Kevin shoots more because of the line ups. He starts with .

Price, Beal, Trevor A and Okafor. He is the most efficient scorer in that group and the only real offensive threat. Put him out there with better players and he will shoot less. Webster is the most efficient scorer on the team. Might be a good idea to start him at SG instead of a 19 year old kid who is struggling. Thats on Randy. Given what Randy is starting, Trevor A Kevin is the first option and Trevor A is the 2nd and Beal is forced to be more then he can be right now. Its a terrible line up and their are better options.

Ves will also look better when surrounded by better players. Like you said, he would look better on the LA team. I agree. But he wouldn't be starting on that team this year. He would be coming off the bench just like he will be here once Wall and Nene are on the floor together. But the kid has to add a mid range to his game. That is on him and nobody else.

Nick, McGee and Dray all needed to go. They were infected by the Gil era and Nick and McGee were up for new contracts. The Wiz turning McGee and Nick into Nene and Crawford which was very good. All three had talent but all three were mentally impaired. Crawford can be a good off the bench spark. Thats all Nick was/is.

I think the worst of this is just about behind us and we all know how painful it has been to watch. It was going to be tough either way with Wall, Nene and Kevin injured to start the year. Add now Booker out, Crawfords sprained ankle for a few games, Livingston missing a game, Singletons spraining a shoulder and that just made it worse.

Nene is playing again and will start to show signs of getting in better shape. Wall will return soon so the PG issue will get addressed. Walls return will also help Beal and Ves who are two players that have struggled but who were brought here to play with John, not Livingston or Price. And once Wall and Nene are both out there, the line up will be a lot easier for Randy who has been doing a terrible job with line up without them.

We have a blow out against Miami up next. Then a couple of games that we should be competitive in. Then a game against NO which we should be able to win and then Houston Dec 12.

By then we will be talking about Wall returning. Then will see what they really have. Wall is their #1 pick young franchise player. Now they have to see if what they added compliments that asset and if he is the kind of assets you can build around.

Is fine to judge players and pieces without Wall but the thing that really matters is what they look like with him. And since no one here have a time machine to jump 30 days forward, we are all just going to have to wait and see.
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Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust 

Post#42 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Dec 2, 2012 4:50 pm

nate33 wrote:CCJ, you can't, with a straight face, blame the organization for Vesely's lack of development. Okariza isn't to blame for Vesely's bad play. Wittman not giving him minutes isn't to blame for Vesely's bad play. Vesely is to be blamed for his bad play. He's a bad basketball player.

It's not the organization's fault that he stinks. It's the organization's fault for drafting him.


nate, the more I say the less you and others understand.

It is the organization that has caused him to regress. Less was better for Vesely last season. He is better than you and others think and I hope to hell for his sake he gets away from the Wizards.
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Post#43 » by nate33 » Sun Dec 2, 2012 5:01 pm

Well, if you want to argue that he would be better off as an extremely low usage player on a great team, then, sure, that would be a better role for him. But that doesn't make Vesely a good player. All you are saying is that if you can find a team that hides ALL of his many weaknesses, then Vesely would look better. Well, duh!

The bottom line is that there isn't a team in the league who has a role available for Vesely to fill that they couldn't fill with a better player at a lower cost.
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Post#44 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Dec 2, 2012 5:06 pm

Find where I said he was good. If I did I want to see it, nate.

He is a high energy player who is good at finishing. He plays the right way. He runs like a deer. I do not recall saying Vesely is good. I do recall repeatedly pointing out the Wizards were BETTER with him on the court. That sample size was 1000 minutes last season. This season there have been changes.
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Post#45 » by hands11 » Sun Dec 2, 2012 5:12 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
nate33 wrote:CCJ, you can't, with a straight face, blame the organization for Vesely's lack of development. Okariza isn't to blame for Vesely's bad play. Wittman not giving him minutes isn't to blame for Vesely's bad play. Vesely is to be blamed for his bad play. He's a bad basketball player.

It's not the organization's fault that he stinks. It's the organization's fault for drafting him.


nate, the more I say the less you and others understand.

It is the organization that has caused him to regress. Less was better for Vesely last season. He is better than you and others think and I hope to hell for his sake he gets away from the Wizards.


The injury to Wall is the biggest reason Ves has slid back.

To say it is other player who were brought here is to miss the facts. Barron isn't taking his minutes. Nene has been injured. Booker is also now injured. Ves was getting minutes and he even got put in the parting line up. So it hasn't been because of other player brought here. What has been different is that he doesn't have Wall out there running up and down the court which is what he is best at.

Next is on him. No excuse for not hitting FTs.
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Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust 

Post#46 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Dec 2, 2012 5:13 pm

nate33 wrote:Well, if you want to argue that he would be better off as an extremely low usage player on a great team, then, sure, that would be a better role for him. But that doesn't make Vesely a good player. All you are saying is that if you can find a team that hides ALL of his many weaknesses, then Vesely would look better. Well, duh!

The bottom line is that there isn't a team in the league who has a role available for Vesely to fill that they couldn't fill with a better player at a lower cost.


Your second point first. Ernie set the price. He is on a rookie deal. His salary is four times the league minimum. It is what it is.

nate, I see this totally differently. Vesely is a rare player who can help a team without scoring much if used properly. He is an ordinary talent other than his height/length with rangy athleticism. If he hit the weight room and played along side Josh Smith, Vesely's dunks would also make highlight reels. EG drafted him too high, but he has some ability.The way I see it, teams need specialists. They need high energy, unselfish players for all the high usage, shot jackers who suck the air out of the ball.

Kevin Seraphin and Nene both said they like playing with Vesely last season. I remember. I'm not caught up in the emotion and hate fest going on right now. I don't care if John Wall rolls his eyes when Vesely misses a FT. It is no worse than John making 3 three point FGs all season.

Vesely should not be the pariah.
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Post#47 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Dec 2, 2012 5:19 pm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wi ... story.html

Jan Vesely has descended from being a cocky player who greeted adversity and negative scrutiny with a wry smile to one who now serves little purpose in his second season with the Washington Wizards.


What is Vesely's role, Mike Lee? Why has there been negative scrutiny coming off a season where he played his best as the Wizards won 6 consecutive games? Is it possible having roster changes has played into him not serving a purpose?

People see Chris Singleton move to PF and just act like that's nothing.
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Post#48 » by closg00 » Sun Dec 2, 2012 5:20 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Find where I said he was good. If I did I want to see it, nate.

He is a high energy player who is good at finishing. He plays the right way. He runs like a deer. I do not recall saying Vesely is good. I do recall repeatedly pointing out the Wizards were BETTER with him on the court. That sample size was 1000 minutes last season. This season there have been changes.


Jan is good at finishing?!?! He can finish nothing beyond unimpeded dunks. He never tries to finish around the basket unless the shooting-clock is about to expire. This is the most aggravating aspect of his game.
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Post#49 » by penbeast0 » Sun Dec 2, 2012 5:31 pm

I'm with CCJ on this one to some degree. Yes, Vesely was/is an unskilled developmental project who in a normal draft would be a 2nd rounder . . . and if he was, we'd be happy with him like we generally were with Dominique McGuire who was more passive than Vesely offensively despite having a better skillset.

If we could get a lottery pick or the equivalent for him, sure, trade him. If not, get off his back and support the good things he does while pointing out the areas he needs to work on. Don't be unrealistic but understand that Vesely, Beal, Singleton, Seraphin, and even Jordan Crawford are developmental players who aren't NBA pros yet. This even goes for John Wall. Now it you see guys dogging it and not hustling, yeah, bust them; but considering how badly the Wiz have sucked, they've actually been pretty decent in terms of hustle. It's not helpful to bust young developing players . . . unless they aren't working or it can get a new management team (the only good excuse for the attacks on Beal, Vesely, etc. I can think of).
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Post#50 » by w dumseld » Sun Dec 2, 2012 5:36 pm

Kumbaya

You are all right, just touching different parts of Ted and Ernie's dysfunctional elephant. (the organization is dysfunctional, though the team itself is certainly other than functional).

Ves is a bust as a lottery pick. Unforgivable. His development has been severely hampered by the moronic move of switching James Singleton for overpriced and worthless for this organization Okafor and Ariza and giving them minutes. And he Jan hasn't improved on his own or with the help of his team. It's all correct. Trifecta!

But that's what happens when you have the worst management in the league.

It's a great lesson. Dookie flows downhill. Mike Lee is directly dissing Jan but actually he is passive aggressively criticizing Ernie and Teds excellent adventure. Because he only can criticize them indirectly. That's the way the world works
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Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust 

Post#51 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Dec 2, 2012 5:38 pm

closg00 wrote:Jan is good at finishing?!?! He can finish nothing beyond unimpeded dunks. He never tries to finish around the basket unless the shooting-clock is about to expire. This is the most aggravating aspect of his game.


Timidity and a lack of strength, perhaps?

In reading between the lines, I would imagine practicing against Okafor, Nene, Seraphin, Booker, and Singleton have not helped his confidence. I don't know that but I think he's gun shy for a reason.

I remember last year's highlight reel finishes, closg00,

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... lja01.html

Vesely has only attempted 30 shots. He is shooting .433 FG but was at .537 FG last season. His ORtg is down to 83 from an ORtg of 104 last season. He is shooting 3-13 FT.

This guy is melting down. This is probably the first time he has tasted this kind of adversity. He could be very home sick. He could hate the NBA long season compared to Europe. If I were him I would probably feel culture shock. I know how it felt to be the only black officer in my career field. Being a European player in the NBA is probably a shock.

People are so hard of mentally weak or underperforming athletes. I look at Ernie and Ted. They drafted him. They are such losers they declared no FA would want to play in DC. This team losing has put the floodlights on Vesely. Time to assassinate the character of another young player. At least he won't be called a knucklehead (that is reserved for black athletes and white rappers).

Vesely was cursed when they drafted him too high. Trade him already and let him have a career like Kwame, Darko, DeSagana Diop, Tyrus Thomas, Nikola Tskitishvili, Joe Alexander or Adam Morrison.
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Post#52 » by hands11 » Sun Dec 2, 2012 5:42 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wizards/jan-vesely-moving-backward-in-his-second-season/2012/12/01/04c20884-3c05-11e2-8a97-363b0f9a0ab3_story.html

Jan Vesely has descended from being a cocky player who greeted adversity and negative scrutiny with a wry smile to one who now serves little purpose in his second season with the Washington Wizards.


What is Vesely's role, Mike Lee? Why has there been negative scrutiny coming off a season where he played his best as the Wizards won 6 consecutive games? Is it possible having roster changes has played into him not serving a purpose?

People see Chris Singleton move to PF and just act like that's nothing.


CCJ

Singleton was on the team last year. That is not a roster change.

The actual roster changes that have taken place have not stopped Ves from getting his chances. He was even made a starter. What is stopping him has been the injuries the team has had and how Randy has juggled the line ups. Now that may change with Nene starting to play again but that has not been the case so far this year.

Ves will look better when Wall returns and they start to run again. Then they will put him out there with Wall and another post scorer.. either Nene or Kevin. Thats when what he does will have a place on the team again.

Ves just isn't as good in a half court set only offense. Putting him out there with Kevin would have been his best place but Kevin started the year hurt and has been trying to get back up to speed since he came back. He is just starting to rebound better. If Kevin is rebounding, then you can put Ves out there with him. But you need a balanced line up out there with him with some scoring threats at SF, SG and/or PG. Ves is a glue guy transition player right now.

So while your argument about the teams roster changes may prove true at some point in the future, it hasnt been an issue so far. Injuries has been the issue. That and Veselys lack of offense.
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Post#53 » by AFM » Sun Dec 2, 2012 5:50 pm

You can't have a player out there who can't dribble and regularly airballs free throws. It's like playing 4 vs 5 on offense. He has to be some sort of offensive threat to keep the defense honest.
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Post#54 » by hands11 » Sun Dec 2, 2012 6:03 pm

penbeast0 wrote:I'm with CCJ on this one to some degree. Yes, Vesely was/is an unskilled developmental project who in a normal draft would be a 2nd rounder . . . and if he was, we'd be happy with him like we generally were with Dominique McGuire who was more passive than Vesely offensively despite having a better skillset.

If we could get a lottery pick or the equivalent for him, sure, trade him. If not, get off his back and support the good things he does while pointing out the areas he needs to work on. Don't be unrealistic but understand that Vesely, Beal, Singleton, Seraphin, and even Jordan Crawford are developmental players who aren't NBA pros yet. This even goes for John Wall. Now it you see guys dogging it and not hustling, yeah, bust them; but considering how badly the Wiz have sucked, they've actually been pretty decent in terms of hustle. It's not helpful to bust young developing players . . . unless they aren't working or it can get a new management team (the only good excuse for the attacks on Beal, Vesely, etc. I can think of).


So which is it ? Saying his would be a second round pick is to ignore that the kid actually did come with some credentials and he is an athletic high bbiq 6-11 player. #6 was to high but 2nd round ? I don't think so. Lots of teams take chances on bigs who are projects in the top 10-15

As for the crop of young players. Yeep. We have a crop.

Kevin is coming along nicely. He has been a little up and down but with his back to back 10 rebound games, I have high hope for him again. If he can keep that rebounding up and start to make more moves toward the basket, he could be something special.

Singleton is starting to look more like the player most though he could be. I see his stock on the rise and look forward to watching him establish his game.

That really just leaves Beal and Ves. Beal is 19 and shouldn't be starting so not overly concerned there. And Ves is a transition player who will play better with Wall and Nene. I'm really not overly concerned with his play so far this year because neither Wall or Nene has been out there. There are some line up that Ves would play well in but Price, Beal, Trevor A, Ves, Okafor is not one of them. Ves needs player to pass to who can shoot. Well who is that in that line up ? Trevor A ?
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Post#55 » by montestewart » Sun Dec 2, 2012 6:31 pm

The two best players on the team are a fast and a bit reckless PG without a jump shot and a skilled big who's a clear injury risk and is positioned as the #1 option for the first time in his career, right as he's entering what are likely his declining years. That's not much of an offensive core to start filling in with complementary players, and except for the hoped for but far from realized development of Beal and Seraphin, that's the Wizards roster, with no cap room to make major additions. Wall's injury is just bad luck, but Nene's injury was not a big surprise, and the absence of both of them exposes just how little offensive talent EG has assembled. For the team to reach its ceiling (a low playoff seed), everyone would have to stay healthy and everything would have otherwise go right for the Wizards (no serious declines due to age or injury, young players develop, FA additions meet or exceed expectations).

The arguments in favor of adding Nene, Okafor, and Ariza so the young players would not develop a losing mentality on a losing team, they sound so laughably hollow right now. If Leonsis is such a tightwad, he should have just met the minimum payroll requirement and surrounded his young talent with FAs, 2nd rounders, maybe traded McGee for another 1st, called up D-Leaguers, and had a better idea which players were part of the future as he continued to add young (potential) talent. If he thought paying Nokariza was necessary to keep selling tickets, he may have a surprise coming. Added to the doubts before the season, there's the record during the season. Fans likely will increasingly be unpersuaded by Leonsis' off putting and extremely superficial positivity. The team Terd and Ernie put together is what it is, desperately depending on the healthy return of a fast and a bit reckless PG without a jump shot and a skilled big who's a clear injury risk and is positioned as the #1 option for the first time in his career right as he's entering what are likely his declining years.

Doesn't look too good. Vesely was blown pick and, due to external circumstances or his own lack of determination, seems unable to make himself something on this team right now, but at this point, he's merely a footnote in all this.
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Post#56 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Dec 2, 2012 7:12 pm

w dumseld wrote:It's a great lesson. Dookie flows downhill. Mike Lee is directly dissing Jan but actually he is passive aggressively criticizing Ernie and Teds excellent adventure. Because he only can criticize them indirectly. That's the way the world works


That's what upsets me. You are so right!

I guess he loses credentials if he takes on the man.
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Post#57 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Dec 2, 2012 7:15 pm

montestewart wrote:The two best players on the team are a fast and a bit reckless PG without a jump shot and a skilled big who's a clear injury risk and is positioned as the #1 option for the first time in his career, right as he's entering what are likely his declining years. That's not much of an offensive core to start filling in with complementary players, and except for the hoped for but far from realized development of Beal and Seraphin, that's the Wizards roster, with no cap room to make major additions. Wall's injury is just bad luck, but Nene's injury was not a big surprise, and the absence of both of them exposes just how little offensive talent EG has assembled. For the team to reach its ceiling (a low playoff seed), everyone would have to stay healthy and everything would have otherwise go right for the Wizards (no serious declines due to age or injury, young players develop, FA additions meet or exceed expectations).

The arguments in favor of adding Nene, Okafor, and Ariza so the young players would not develop a losing mentality on a losing team, they sound so laughably hollow right now. If Leonsis is such a tightwad, he should have just met the minimum payroll requirement and surrounded his young talent with FAs, 2nd rounders, maybe traded McGee for another 1st, called up D-Leaguers, and had a better idea which players were part of the future as he continued to add young (potential) talent. If he thought paying Nokariza was necessary to keep selling tickets, he may have a surprise coming. Added to the doubts before the season, there's the record during the season. Fans likely will increasingly be unpersuaded by Leonsis' off putting and extremely superficial positivity. The team Terd and Ernie put together is what it is, desperately depending on the healthy return of a fast and a bit reckless PG without a jump shot and a skilled big who's a clear injury risk and is positioned as the #1 option for the first time in his career right as he's entering what are likely his declining years.

Doesn't look too good. Vesely was blown pick and, due to external circumstances or his own lack of determination, seems unable to make himself something on this team right now, but at this point, he's merely a footnote in all this.


monte, this is a terrific post.

Does Ted Leonsis care that much if no matter what the gate is he still makes money?
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Post#58 » by closg00 » Sun Dec 2, 2012 7:23 pm

w dumseld wrote:Kumbaya

You are all right, just touching different parts of Ted and Ernie's dysfunctional elephant. (the organization is dysfunctional, though the team itself is certainly other than functional).

Ves is a bust as a lottery pick. Unforgivable. His development has been severely hampered by the moronic move of switching James Singleton for overpriced and worthless for this organization Okafor and Ariza and giving them minutes. And he Jan hasn't improved on his own or with the help of his team. It's all correct. Trifecta!

But that's what happens when you have the worst management in the league.

It's a great lesson. Dookie flows downhill. Mike Lee is directly dissing Jan but actually he is passive aggressively criticizing Ernie and Teds excellent adventure. Because he only can criticize them indirectly. That's the way the world works


:bowdown: Thanks, you summed-up everything nicely. The angle on Lee's article could easily have been about the lack of player development and poor drafting. Reid's article touched on the drafting.
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Post#59 » by penbeast0 » Sun Dec 2, 2012 8:09 pm

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penbeast0 wrote:I'm with CCJ on this one to some degree. Yes, Vesely was/is an unskilled developmental project who in a normal draft would be a 2nd rounder . . . and if he was, we'd be happy with him like we generally were with Dominique McGuire who was more passive than Vesely offensively despite having a better skillset.

If we could get a lottery pick or the equivalent for him, sure, trade him. If not, get off his back and support the good things he does while pointing out the areas he needs to work on. Don't be unrealistic but understand that Vesely, Beal, Singleton, Seraphin, and even Jordan Crawford are developmental players who aren't NBA pros yet. This even goes for John Wall. Now it you see guys dogging it and not hustling, yeah, bust them; but considering how badly the Wiz have sucked, they've actually been pretty decent in terms of hustle. It's not helpful to bust young developing players . . . unless they aren't working or it can get a new management team (the only good excuse for the attacks on Beal, Vesely, etc. I can think of).


So which is it ? Saying his would be a second round pick is to ignore that the kid actually did come with some credentials and he is an athletic high bbiq 6-11 player. #6 was to high but 2nd round ? I don't think so. Lots of teams take chances on bigs who are projects in the top 10-15

As for the crop of young players. Yeep. We have a crop.

Kevin is coming along nicely. He has been a little up and down but with his back to back 10 rebound games, I have high hope for him again. If he can keep that rebounding up and start to make more moves toward the basket, he could be something special.

Singleton is starting to look more like the player most though he could be. I see his stock on the rise and look forward to watching him establish his game.

That really just leaves Beal and Ves. Beal is 19 and shouldn't be starting so not overly concerned there. And Ves is a transition player who will play better with Wall and Nene. I'm really not overly concerned with his play so far this year because neither Wall or Nene has been out there. There are some line up that Ves would play well in but Price, Beal, Trevor A, Ves, Okafor is not one of them. Ves needs player to pass to who can shoot. Well who is that in that line up ? Trevor A ?


I don't think he had any credentials other than athleticism. He'd played in Europe where he had neither rebounded nor showed any sign of a shot; he hasn't got playmaking skills . . . yes, teams reach for those guys in the 10-15 range, if those guys are potential centers. If they don't look like they can develop into centers, they are 2nd rounders.

People just look at the #6 and forget just how weak this draft was projected . . . Faried and Leonard have played well and make it look better but a month or two before the draft and before everyone started dropping out, even #2 pick Derrick Williams was projected as a 8-12 type guy and he didn't move up because of great play but because so many players rated higher dropped out of the draft.
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Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust 

Post#60 » by keynote » Mon Dec 3, 2012 4:19 am

Here's Ted on Vesley:

http://www.tedstake.com/2012/12/02/publ ... g-players/

Jan Vesely and Trevor Ariza are best situated in a running, fast-paced offense. We have now had to slow down play without John Wall in the lineup, and we are asking players to play half court sets. This is a miss -match for their specific skill sets. Jan Vesely is in his second year of development. You always support a young, talented player, who is 7 feet tall, can run and is fundamentally sound. Jan has our support, and is working hard to develop his all-around game. But this is his second year in the NBA, and he is playing without a starting point guard who can push the pace of play. We shouldn’t be so fast to write him off as a player. This is easy to do in media but not something that is smart to do for our franchise.

I support Jan Vesely.


"Fundamentally sound"? I mean, I get that he seems to have a nice feel for the game, but ball handling, shooting, the ability to finish with either hand around the basket, and box-out technique are all fundamental skill sets that Vesley has yet to learn, let alone master.
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