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Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust

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Is Jan Vesely a Bust?

Yes, I've seen enough, Jan Vesely is a Bust for a 6th pick
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No, let's wait to see how he plays with JW and Nene
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Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust 

Post#1361 » by closg00 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:04 am

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jmrosenth wrote:How big of a bust was Vesley? Only ONE other player drafted top 6 since the NBA-ABA merger has failed to last more than 3 seasons not due to injury or drugs. ONE.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/ ... y-quickly/

Picking Vesley was way worse than picking Kwame, and it's not even close.


This is a little misleading as Vesely would have made an NBA team this year. He choose to go to Europe as he is already from there.
Im not saying he is good or anything, Im just giving some perspective


Vesely would have made an NBA team this year? Says who?


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Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust 

Post#1362 » by hands11 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:42 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
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I knew it was a bad thing that James Gist (a former Terp player) was the considerably better statistical player on Jan Vesely's team.

The Wizards literally could have taken Gist 6th overall and gotten better than they ultimately got from Vesely.

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Stay strong and true CCJ... The Ves will return. I'm half glad he is going over seas for at least one year. Probably two. Dude needs minutes and mojo. Wizards were a bad place for him to land. Would have been better in MIL or on a vet team from the word go.

Starting one year, then changing positions, then changing again, and the coming off the bench and no Wall, just to much for him to over come. Not from where he started... #6 pick. The kiss. Starting. Vesanity.

Ves has some talent. He does what he does. He has gotten bigger. He has adjusted to the idea that he has to play PF/C. Now he need minutes. Chew up on some weaker comp would be good for him. He played well in international ball last year. He rebounded 2nd best to only Booker. He steals. He can finish.

He need to hit his FTs. And add a mid range. He can get that going overseas.

Stay strong CCJ. Don't fold to the board pressure. Its not your style.


I supported Vesely. He started some games with Seraphin before the Wizards went with veterans. Jan Vesely lost confidence thereafter.

hands, I never wanted Vesely. I did comment on Gist and Vesely before Jan was drafted.

I think Vesely has the physical tools to be a solid energetic player off the bench. However, his FT shooting and his timidity after this many seasons make me happy he left the NBA.

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I didn't want him either CCJ. That of course wasnt the point.

The second thing you said was. I have no reason to hate on Ves. Seems like good kid but in a changing position that didn't work. I wish him well.
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Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust 

Post#1363 » by keynote » Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:50 am

closg00 wrote:
pcbothwel wrote:
jmrosenth wrote:How big of a bust was Vesley? Only ONE other player drafted top 6 since the NBA-ABA merger has failed to last more than 3 seasons not due to injury or drugs. ONE.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/ ... y-quickly/

Picking Vesley was way worse than picking Kwame, and it's not even close.


This is a little misleading as Vesely would have made an NBA team this year. He choose to go to Europe as he is already from there.
Im not saying he is good or anything, Im just giving some perspective


Vesely would have made an NBA team this year? Says who?


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I think Vesely could've picked up a league minimum, non-guaranteed contract -- if he were willing to accept it. I assume he's going to Europe because he's getting far more $ than he'll ever get here and because he's more comfortable and confident playing over there.

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Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust 

Post#1364 » by Dat2U » Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:33 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Vesely is very likely never coming back to the NBA, hands.


Yeah, why would he? He can be loved and be a hero and also paid like one overseas. No need to come back to the NBA. Plus he doesn't seem to be the type to feel like he has something to prove (because he probably would have tried to do so already).

Worst top 6 pick IMO since F Doug Smith of Missouri (Derrick Coleman draft I think). What makes it even worse is how thorough the Wizards purportedly scouted him. For two straight years he was a front office favorite.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wi ... story.html

The decision to take Vesely was practically unanimous within the basketball operations side of the organization, with the Wizards enamored with the freakishly athletic 6-foot-11 forward who runs the floor and attacks the rim as if ignited by a fuse


It was "unanimous"!? How the fu*k?

“We think Jan can play,” Coach Flip Saunders said after the draft. “We think he can come in right away, and he can be a guy that can be a rotation guy and can play for us. He’s got a high motor. Maybe the greatest skill that he has — outside of kissing — is probably how hard he plays. He plays unbelievably hard.”


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Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust 

Post#1365 » by Induveca » Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:39 pm

Wow that is ridiculous. I remember watching his EU highlights (aka fast break dunks) and thinking they meant absolutely nothing.

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Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust 

Post#1366 » by dobrojim » Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:41 pm

so much for the czech version of Blake Griffin.
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Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust 

Post#1367 » by closg00 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:34 pm

I think Kevin mentioned this, but how could ANY FO be "unanimous" on a 6th pick? When you have " unanimity", it usually reflects a culture of yes-men, a group afraid of telling the Emperor (EG) that he's not wearing any clothes.


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Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust 

Post#1368 » by CobraCommander » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:50 am

Wow in hindsight he is a bust! Van is a good kid but not a nba player- but hell neither am I - glad he got his chance and lived a part of his dream. Now take yo azz to turkey and make a living. EG had an ok summer but this is on his resume forever - forever ever- forever eva!
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Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust 

Post#1369 » by montestewart » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:32 am

closg00 wrote:I think Kevin mentioned this, but how could ANY FO be "unanimous" on a 6th pick? When you have " unanimity", it usually reflects a culture of yes-men, a group afraid of telling the Emperor (EG) that he's not wearing any clothes.


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Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust 

Post#1370 » by mohammed10 » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:17 am

closg00 wrote:
Vesely would have made an NBA team this year? Says who?


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Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust 

Post#1371 » by TGW » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:51 am

"Air wolf" ehhh...

More like airbud...although airbud probably had a greater skillset

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Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust 

Post#1372 » by closg00 » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:19 am

They didn't mince words in this headline :lol:
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/559967/2 ... -ulker.htm
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Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust 

Post#1373 » by Veselyfan » Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:35 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MjiTFT-B44[/youtube]

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Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust 

Post#1374 » by Nivek » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:01 pm

Wow, that Vesely guy looks impressive. I wonder if the Wizards could get him.
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Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust 

Post#1375 » by tontoz » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:34 pm

In the NBA there are guys who will actually contest dunks instead of ducking out of the way.
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Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust 

Post#1376 » by Nivek » Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:08 pm

tontoz wrote:In the NBA there are guys who will actually contest dunks instead of ducking out of the way.


Not against a guy who attacks the rim with Vesely's ferocity. That will to dominate is a sure marker of NBA greatness.
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Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust 

Post#1377 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:50 pm

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It was "unanimous"!? How the fu*k


I used to really blast EG, partly because I had contacted them ad nauseum about Kenneth Faried prior to the draft. At least a year in advance and continued right up to the draft.

They were so wrong about Vesely but they cannot say they were not forewarned.
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Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust 

Post#1378 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:54 pm

Nivek wrote:Wow, that Vesely guy looks impressive. I wonder if the Wizards could get him.


They would probably do the same thing again if they could.
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Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust 

Post#1379 » by TGW » Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:43 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Dat2U wrote:
It was "unanimous"!? How the fu*k


I used to really blast EG, partly because I had contacted them ad nauseum about Kenneth Faried prior to the draft. At least a year in advance and continued right up to the draft.

They were so wrong about Vesely but they cannot say they were not forewarned.


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Re: Jan Vesely Part II: He a Bust 

Post#1380 » by closg00 » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:13 am

Any bets on the fate of Jimmer and Biyombo? While Jan busted in record time, these two guys from that draft class could be out of the NBA next-year also.

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