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Post#1 Kool-Aid Drinking, Season Turnaround Thread
Sun Jan 6, 2013 4:03 pm by hands11

Once they have Trevor A back and Wall returns, I think this is a very different team.

Its the team that many of us say could make the playoffs if they started the year healthy.

Its a team that can still end up in the low 30s for wins.

I'm starting to get excited again to watch them.

Now if Beal has really turned the corner like it looks like he has the last 3 games.
And Crawford keeps getting more efficient.
And Nene continues to up his minutes
And Okafor is really a double double machine when he starts with Nene

Then things should start looking a lot better.

Trevor A is a long solid tier 2 starting SF which is more then we have right now starting.
Temple is looking great at a back up PG. Specially with Price as another option. Both are good defenders.

And Booker is looking like he may finally have healed properly. Before the NBA, he was not a player who got injured.

Is it a lot of IFs. Yeep Can it all come together. Oh yeah.

Only thing that really worries me at this point is how committed to tanking will they be. But since they got a cushion, maybe they are willing to win some games.

They could be the come back team of the year and still end up in the low 30 win range and in the lotto.

Temple/Wall/Price
Beal/Crawford
Trevor A/Webster
Nene/Booker/Ves
Okafor/Kevin S

Plus Singleton

That team is going to start winning some games and once Wall is starting again, they will win even more.

The key will be Beal hitting those 3s like he has the last 3 games. If he can do that, that changes everything and greatly accelerates the rebuild.
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Post#2 Re: Coolaid Drinking Season Turnaround Thread
Sun Jan 6, 2013 10:08 pm by FAH1223

we aren't making the playoffs

hopefully we hit 40 losses soon
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Post#3 Re: Coolaid Drinking Season Turnaround Thread
Sun Jan 6, 2013 10:41 pm by mohammed10

Not enough Kool Aid in all the Chesapeake Bay to think this team will will anything more than 20-25 games - tops

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Post#4 Re: Coolaid Drinking Season Turnaround Thread
Sun Jan 6, 2013 11:01 pm by montestewart

It's not Coolaid, it's Kool-Aid!

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Post#5 Re: Coolaid Drinking Season Turnaround Thread
Sun Jan 6, 2013 11:08 pm by Nivek

mohammed10 wrote:Not enough Kool Aid in all the Chesapeake Bay to think this team will will anything more than 20-25 games - tops

All hail Emperor Ernie!


If the Wizards play .509 ball the rest of the way, they'd win 26 more games and finish with 30 wins.

This would pass for achievement for the franchise.
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Post#6 Re: Coolaid Drinking Season Turnaround Thread
Sun Jan 6, 2013 11:10 pm by dangermouse

Speaking of Kool-Aid my American friends, any connoisseurs on this forum? Its summer here on the other side of the globe, I usually buy a mixed box of Kool-Aid packets for special occasions.

Any favourite flavours (or favorite flavors) that I should keep an eye out for?
Fri Jul 5, 2013 4:36 am by dangermouse
dangermouse wrote:44 is my best guess.

I think we make the playoffs, no lower than 6th seed.
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Post#7 Re: Coolaid Drinking Season Turnaround Thread
Sun Jan 6, 2013 11:11 pm by MikeTheKid

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Post#8 Re: Coolaid Drinking Season Turnaround Thread
Sun Jan 6, 2013 11:25 pm by MJG

montestewart wrote:It's not Coolaid, it's Kool-Aid!]

Coolaid is the off-brand, non-FDA-approved knockoff of Kool-Aid that was pulled from store shelves when all those kids reported how it them see rainbows and smiley faces everywhere. Or at least I assumed that was the case, because taking that is the only reason why someone might think we're going to turn things around.
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Post#9 Re: Coolaid Drinking Season Turnaround Thread
Sun Jan 6, 2013 11:28 pm by montestewart

MJG wrote:
montestewart wrote:It's not Coolaid, it's Kool-Aid!]

Coolaid is the off-brand, non-FDA-approved knockoff of Kool-Aid that was pulled from store shelves when all those kids reported how it them see rainbows and smiley faces everywhere. Or at least I assumed that was the case, because taking that is the only reason why someone might think we're going to turn things around.

Try Cyan-Aide
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Post#10 Re: Coolaid Drinking Season Turnaround Thread
Sun Jan 6, 2013 11:50 pm by mohammed10

Nivek wrote:
mohammed10 wrote:Not enough Kool Aid in all the Chesapeake Bay to think this team will will anything more than 20-25 games - tops

All hail Emperor Ernie!


If the Wizards play .509 ball the rest of the way, they'd win 26 more games and finish with 30 wins.

This would pass for achievement for the franchise.


Kevin-

Perhaps you do, but I don't see anything in this squad that screams .509 ball the rest of the way.
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With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!

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Post#11 Re: Coolaid Drinking Season Turnaround Thread
Sun Jan 6, 2013 11:55 pm by hands11

dangermouse wrote:Speaking of Kool-Aid my American friends, any connoisseurs on this forum? Its summer here on the other side of the globe, I usually buy a mixed box of Kool-Aid packets for special occasions.

Any favourite flavours (or favorite flavors) that I should keep an eye out for?


Been a long long time since I had any but Grape comes to mind as one I drank as a kid. That and Tropical Punch I think.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kool-Aid
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Post#12 Re: Coolaid Drinking Season Turnaround Thread
Mon Jan 7, 2013 12:04 am by hands11

mohammed10 wrote:
Nivek wrote:
mohammed10 wrote:Not enough Kool Aid in all the Chesapeake Bay to think this team will will anything more than 20-25 games - tops

All hail Emperor Ernie!


If the Wizards play .509 ball the rest of the way, they'd win 26 more games and finish with 30 wins.

This would pass for achievement for the franchise.


Kevin-

Perhaps you do, but I don't see anything in this squad that screams .509 ball the rest of the way.


Who knows. It could work. Going to be challenging to mix is so many player in such a short period of time. So many different line up already this year. Now they are going to add

Two starters in Wall and Trevor A

Plus Price and Booker

Thats two players we know are going to get minutes and two that are likely to but not on a nightly basis.

And they just added Temple. Five players is a lot to mix in. Maybe Price will just step in where Temple is. Not sure what they are thinking.
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Post#13 Re: Kool-Aid Drinking Season Turnaround Threa
Mon Jan 7, 2013 1:43 am by montestewart

The squad could be better with Ariza than without him, because they've been shorthanded lately and he's a decent defensive option, but I'm not really expecting him to add too much, since they were 2-13 before his injury. To go from the team's current winning pace to a .509 winning pace would be like going from an 11 win pace to a 42 win pace.

Teams have made such dramatic season to season gains before: the Celtics after they drafted Bird and again after they traded for Garnett and Allen, the Spurs when they first drafted Robinson and again when they drafted Duncan and Robinson returned from injury, maybe a few other extreme examples (Jason Kidd and Chris Paul contributed to smaller but significant advances in their rookie seasons). But think of the great players that were added to rosters and didn't bring such an immediately dramatic improvement: Jordan, Lebron, Nash, etc.

For the Wizards to make such a leap from where they are now to winning at a .509 pace, Wall would need to return and prove that he is in fact an all-time great, playing at that level immediately. And just about everything else would need to positively fall into place.

The Wizards could win their first 81 games next year. They could lose the last game by 82 points. They could end the season 81-1 and still have a negative point differential. That's not very probable, but it's not impossible.
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Post#14 Re: Kool-Aid Drinking Season Turnaround Threa
Mon Jan 7, 2013 6:17 am by closg00

I am reminded of Jay Glassie's bridge burning article when I saw this thread.
http://jayglassie.com/2012/04/24/the-last-straw/
Guys on a message board could do a better job managing the Wizards than Ernie Grunfeld.
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Post#15 Re: Coolaid Drinking Season Turnaround Thread
Mon Jan 7, 2013 7:45 am by Nivek

mohammed10 wrote:
Nivek wrote:
mohammed10 wrote:Not enough Kool Aid in all the Chesapeake Bay to think this team will will anything more than 20-25 games - tops

All hail Emperor Ernie!


If the Wizards play .509 ball the rest of the way, they'd win 26 more games and finish with 30 wins.

This would pass for achievement for the franchise.


Kevin-

Perhaps you do, but I don't see anything in this squad that screams .509 ball the rest of the way.


Imagine if the Wizards go five-oh-nine
It isn't hard to do
Just win one more than they lose
Of the games left on their schedule
Imagine them reaching 30 wins...it's not impossible

You...you may say I'm a dreamer,
But I'm not the only one
I hope today you'll join us
So Wizards fans can be as one

Imagine well-used possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for turnovers or bricked shots
A defense that's robust
Imagine Crawford sharing the ball with his team

You...you may say I'm a dreamer,
But I'm not the only one
I hope today you'll join us
So Wizards fans can be as one
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Post#16 Re: Coolaid Drinking Season Turnaround Thread
Mon Jan 7, 2013 9:44 am by LyricalRico

Nivek wrote:Imagine well-used possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for turnovers or bricked shots
A defense that's robust
Imagine Crawford sharing the ball with his team


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Post#17 Re: Kool-Aid Drinking, Season Turnaround Thre
Mon Jan 7, 2013 10:58 am by tontoz

Very fitting that Kool-Aid was spelled wrong.
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Post#18 Re: Kool-Aid Drinking, Season Turnaround Thre
Mon Jan 7, 2013 12:17 pm by dobrojim

Completely healthy we probably are a better team.
But that's not saying anything. We have 4 wins right now.
The probabilities of changes making us a worse team are
vanishingly small.
A lot of what we call 'thought' is just mental activity
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Post#19 Re: Kool-Aid Drinking, Season Turnaround Thre
Mon Jan 7, 2013 12:26 pm by Severn Hoos

dobrojim wrote:Completely healthy we probably are a better team.
But that's not saying anything. We have 4 wins right now.
The probabilities of changes making us a worse team are
vanishingly small.


jim, are you working some kind of super-Haiku angle here? It's like a Haiku of Haikus.

And yes, that's how far we've fallen, both as a board and as a team, that this is the most interesting thing we can talk about. ;-)
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Post#20 Re: Kool-Aid Drinking, Season Turnaround Thre
Mon Jan 7, 2013 12:48 pm by dobrojim

if I composed a haiku, I assure you it was not by design

can't go to the game tonight (vs OKC) getting (so far) limited
response to my ad on CL for my tixs. That's how bad it is.
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