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Wizards @ Nuggets - 1/18/13 - 9:00 PM EST Nene vs McGee

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Post#281 Re: Wizards @ Nuggets - 1/18/13 - 9:00 PM EST
Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:12 am by Knighthonor

noworriesinmd wrote:1000% wrong on Beal!
I have a serious man-crush on him.
Might have to start drinking the kool-aid, this team might be really good!!!!


Our days of living in the lottery probably ends this year

Crap and wiz could have got Wiggins/Parker for SF next season!!!
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Post#282 Re: Wizards @ Nuggets - 1/18/13 - 9:00 PM EST
Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:59 am by penbeast0

dobrojim wrote:just noticed the wiretap feed with the Karl wants McGee to play
like Duncan. Well, I remember Glen Consor euphemistically saying
JaVale 'struggles with concepts'. So no, I don't think he's likely
to resemble The Big Fundamental any time soon. Nothing personal.


Long as we are at it, I'd like every other big man in the league to play like Duncan starting with Seraphin and Vesely.
[quote="Nivek"] This post could come only from a Wizards fan. It somehow combines delusional optimism with soul-crushing pessimism.
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Post#283 Re: Wizards @ Nuggets - 1/18/13 - 9:00 PM EST
Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:07 am by fishercob

Tyrone Messby wrote:where is fishercob with the hater shades?


Just call it like I see it, bro. Great win. Nuggets were previously 15-2 at home. Man, if we had beaten Sacto people would be lighting themselves on fire.

What I liked:

--Wiz got 24 pts and 10 boards from the SF spot.
--7 boards in 26 mins from Seraphin
--Everything about Beal, including his toughness after that brutal fall. 23 points on 13 shots in a more reasonable 32 minutes. He's the youngest player in the league.
--Wall's perfection from the line and ability to get there, his big block and FT's at the end, looking good on a couple mid-range pull-ups
-- Nene winning in his old home. Had to feel good on an emotional night
--Jafail schadenfreude
--Wittman getting a lot of guys involved as CCJ said.

What I didn't like:

--How Nene looked. Buckhantz mentioned casually that his compensation from his plantar fasciatis has led to right knee tendonitis, which is more painful. This is of grave concern given Nene's age and contract status
--Wall's 6 turnovers in 26 minutes. He MUST value the basketball more.
--Witt's bizarre (mis)use of Webster down the stretch. Unless I missed something, it looked like Witt had him on the floor for D, but not for O when we needed FT shooters on the floor. He's one of the best FT shooters in the league and needed to be out there.

Great win! On to LA.
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Post#284 Re: Wizards @ Nuggets - 1/18/13 - 9:00 PM EST
Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:12 am by Nivek

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Nivek wrote:The win probability section at Basketball Reference pegs the Wizards chances of winning tonight at 19%. 1-in-5 chance? That seems about right.


Seems right to me but I am leaning toward the 1.

The points they're giving seem very generous, and like easy money if you care to wager.


Good call, CCJ!
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Post#285 Re: Wizards @ Nuggets - 1/18/13 - 9:00 PM EST
Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:31 am by nate33

fishercob wrote:--Witt's bizarre (mis)use of Webster down the stretch. Unless I missed something, it looked like Witt had him on the floor for D, but not for O when we needed FT shooters on the floor. He's one of the best FT shooters in the league and needed to be out there.

I didn't mind Wittman playing Ariza over the last 5 minutes of the 4th quarter because he was using him to guard Ty Lawson, and Ariza was hot from 3-point range all night. But with 30 seconds to go and with Denver looking to intentionally foul, I was surprised that Webster wasn't in the game.

But the more I think about it, it wasn't so bad. Basically, Wall, Nene, Beal and Ariza played the entire last minute with Ariza doing all inbounds passes. The fifth player was rotated between Webster (for defensive sets since they were playing Gallinari at PF), Crawford (for offense/free throws), and Seraphin (for rebounding off of opponent free throws). I can live with that. One can make a case that Webster should be there in place of Crawford for offense too, but you could go either way with that. In general, I trust Crawford's moxie to help him hit clutch free throws, though that didn't work out last night.
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Post#286 Re: Wizards @ Nuggets - 1/18/13 - 9:00 PM EST
Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:44 am by closg00

Whoot, fun times are back, we are no-longer a laughingstock.
Guys on a message board could do a better job managing the Wizards than Ernie Grunfeld.
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Post#287 Re: Wizards @ Nuggets - 1/18/13 - 9:00 PM EST
Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:45 am by popper

Love our effort and result but our TO's are an area where Wittman really needs to focus on. Some of our recent wins would have been blowouts if we valued the ball more.
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Post#288 Re: Wizards @ Nuggets - 1/18/13 - 9:00 PM EST
Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:48 am by thebigE

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Induveca wrote:4 of 5? Oh my...


This is not a fluke.

At the start of the thread I predicted this win. Randy Wittman is a good coach. I love the way he gets multiple players involved.


Agreed. Witt is a sick coach who seems to love what he does and appears to be more than capable. Most importantly, the players are responding to Witt. Good sign.
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Post#289 Re: Wizards @ Nuggets - 1/18/13 - 9:00 PM EST
Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:12 am by jivelikenice

My issue with Witt has to do with his slow trigger when it comes to substituting when teams are on runs. Lawson was eating up Price and AJ wasn't even contesting shots which indicated fatigue, yet he kept waiting to bring Wall in....I've also seen numerous instances where we need to get someone into the game down the stretch, and he waits 2-3 minutes for a dead ball versus calling a TO. He also at times has ice'd out his own ht players by waiting to long to reinsert them back in......

He seems like a decent patch, but needs to be better with game mgmt....
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Post#290 Re: Wizards @ Nuggets - 1/18/13 - 9:00 PM EST
Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:17 am by nate33

jivelikenice wrote:My issue with Witt has to do with his slow trigger when it comes to substituting when teams are on runs. Lawson was eating up Price and AJ wasn't even contesting shots which indicated fatigue, yet he kept waiting to bring Wall in....I've also seen numerous instances where we need to get someone into the game down the stretch, and he waits 2-3 minutes for a dead ball versus calling a TO. He also at times has ice'd out his own ht players by waiting to long to reinsert them back in......

He seems like a decent patch, but needs to be better with game mgmt....

Wall was on a minutes cap. I think he had to wait. I suppose he could have brought in Temple though.

These criticism are always easy to make in hindsight, but I think they're generally a bit unfair. Yes, Lawson was hot, but he could just have easily have missed his last few shots. You only know it's a 23-point quarter for him after the quarter is over.
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Post#291 Re: Wizards @ Nuggets - 1/18/13 - 9:00 PM EST
Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:41 am by Chocolate City Jordanaire

Nivek wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Nivek wrote:The win probability section at Basketball Reference pegs the Wizards chances of winning tonight at 19%. 1-in-5 chance? That seems about right.


Seems right to me but I am leaning toward the 1.

The points they're giving seem very generous, and like easy money if you care to wager.


Good call, CCJ!


Dude, I'm going to Vegas. :lol:
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Post#292 Re: Wizards @ Nuggets - 1/18/13 - 9:00 PM EST
Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:48 am by Chocolate City Jordanaire

jivelikenice wrote:My issue with Witt has to do with his slow trigger when it comes to substituting when teams are on runs. Lawson was eating up Price and AJ wasn't even contesting shots which indicated fatigue, yet he kept waiting to bring Wall in....I've also seen numerous instances where we need to get someone into the game down the stretch, and he waits 2-3 minutes for a dead ball versus calling a TO. He also at times has ice'd out his own ht players by waiting to long to reinsert them back in......

He seems like a decent patch, but needs to be better with game mgmt....


Noted, jivelikenice. I wonder if there's a discipline or planned rotation pattern that Randy believes in sticking with? That might be the only way to get so many players decent burn. It could explain why he's slow to switch combinations that might seem to not be working. I don't know...

Washington has dropped a lot of close games that might have been wins. At the same time, Randy has held it together under duress and he's shown that he can string some wins together with a patchwork lineup.

Ultimately, wins and losses will determine Randy's coaching tenure with the Wizards. Expectations are going to rise. Right now, I'm just ecstatic with the team chemistry, the defense, the emerging talent of Beal, the players who are reviving their careers, and the way Randy has been a stand up guy throughout. jive, I'm not evaluating Randy on the wins and losses per se.

Perhaps he can become a better game manager?
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Post#293 Re: Wizards @ Nuggets - 1/18/13 - 9:00 PM EST
Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:39 am by doclinkin

jivelikenice wrote:My issue with Witt has to do with his slow trigger when it comes to substituting when teams are on runs. Lawson was eating up Price and AJ wasn't even contesting shots which indicated fatigue, yet he kept waiting to bring Wall in....


Um, you do like still having a franchise PG right? Or you would rather have him on the bench with a blown out knee. We just got the dude back, let the coach massage his minutes a little so we can keep him alive and upright, srsly.
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Post#294 Re: Wizards @ Nuggets - 1/18/13 - 9:00 PM EST
Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:40 am by dobrojim

penbeast0 wrote:
dobrojim wrote:just noticed the wiretap feed with the Karl wants McGee to play
like Duncan. Well, I remember Glen Consor euphemistically saying
JaVale 'struggles with concepts'. So no, I don't think he's likely
to resemble The Big Fundamental any time soon. Nothing personal.


Long as we are at it, I'd like every other big man ON THE WIZARDS to play like Duncan starting with Seraphin and Vesely.



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Post#295 Re: Wizards @ Nuggets - 1/18/13 - 9:00 PM EST
Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:45 am by tontoz

Watching the 4th quarter now and just saw Seraphin use a drop step. I don't think i have ever seen him do that before.
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Post#296 Re: Wizards @ Nuggets - 1/18/13 - 9:00 PM EST
Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:52 am by thebigE

Chemistry. Chemistry. Chemistry. That's what Witt brings to the table. He's tinkering with the lineup while learning along the way. Let's not forget he's new to this head coaching thing himself. Arguably, the greatest asset for a head coach is the ability to connect to a team through adversity. Witt is proving himself quite capable in this regard.
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Post#297 Re: Wizards @ Nuggets - 1/18/13 - 9:00 PM EST
Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:55 am by MikeTheKid

So I was drunk and partying at Inauguration parties but I did see the last 2 mins of the game and I shed tears last night I was so happy for Nene, Wall and the team. S*** we really could've been very good this year. Now EG needs to solidify that bench and were set.
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Post#298 Re: Wizards @ Nuggets - 1/18/13 - 9:00 PM EST
Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:08 pm by tontoz

Nice to see Seraphin actually make a contribution to a win. It's been awhile.

The Wizards outscored Denver by 11 in the 4th quarter. There haven't been many tight games when the Wizards had the upper hand in the 4th.

Scary to see Beal bounce off the floor. Ugh

Too many carely turnovers.
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Post#299 Re: Wizards @ Nuggets - 1/18/13 - 9:00 PM EST
Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:14 pm by jivelikenice

doclinkin wrote:
jivelikenice wrote:My issue with Witt has to do with his slow trigger when it comes to substituting when teams are on runs. Lawson was eating up Price and AJ wasn't even contesting shots which indicated fatigue, yet he kept waiting to bring Wall in....


Um, you do like still having a franchise PG right? Or you would rather have him on the bench with a blown out knee. We just got the dude back, let the coach massage his minutes a little so we can keep him alive and upright, srsly.


Where did i say play him above his minutes cap? You can manage the minutes differently if Price is getting lit up, or give Temple some run as Nate mentioned.

Or you can ask Wall how he feels and let him decide how much he wants to play

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Post#300 Re: Wizards @ Nuggets - 1/18/13 - 9:00 PM EST
Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:55 pm by barelyawake

Mentality is something statistics are awful at capturing/predicting -- whether personal development or team unity. Of course, part of what Wall brings to the table is the thought that winning is possible. When a team of players who haven't developed chemistry play together, they need to learn they can win. And when that team is based around a star pg whose job is to create spacing for a group who can't create their own shot, then it's hard to believe you can win. Ball movement is awful. Spacing is horrible. Every move gets blocked. Desperation sets in.

We better sell high on our players this offseason and not be happy with what we got. This isnt a finished product. We still need a high draft pick or a trade for a star (like Cousins). But, this is the team I've been expecting when I said next year we will have the best collection of talent we have had in decades. Hope people are changing their minds on some of the moves we have made. Vets do matter to a young, developing team.
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