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Re: Wizards @ Clippers - 1/19/13 - 10:30 PM EST

Postby hands11 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:53 am

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hands11 wrote:BG was 5-18. He was bailed out all night.

Only other player that put up point for them was CP3 who was 6-16 with 9 FTA.

Blake was 5-18 with 10 FTA.

I bet Blake give Joey good knob.

And even with all the bad calls, Wizard still could have won if they hit more FTA and rebounded better.

LAC looked like a machine in the first, but the Wizards exposed them for the chumps they are. Even with all the opportunities the Wizard missed on, LAC wouldn't have won with help from the refs.


Well lets not go too far. Clearly the Clippers were having an off shooting night. I can't remember Griffin missing that many from inside before. And their defense was pretty damn solid. In fact I'm really impressed the Wizards did as well as they did considering the defense they faced.


Go what far. Its a fact.

You can focus on what the Wizard could have done more that was in their control but the fact is, they did enough to be right there at the end. If not for the refs calls to help the Clippers they would not have won that game. It not about what the Wizards didn't do. Its about what the refs did do.

What is this logic that a team should have to score an extra 10 pts to overcome the refs.

Last night the Wizards played well enough to overcome the refs. Tonight, they didn't. That is a BS way to have play the game. Call the damn game. Let the players determine who wins.
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Re: Wizards @ Clippers - 1/19/13 - 10:30 PM EST

Postby nuposse04 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:53 am

sfam wrote:
hands11 wrote:BG was 5-18. He was bailed out all night.

Only other player that put up point for them was CP3 who was 6-16 with 9 FTA.

Blake was 5-18 with 10 FTA.

I bet Blake give Joey good knob.

And even with all the bad calls, Wizard still could have won if they hit more FTA and rebounded better.

LAC looked like a machine in the first, but the Wizards exposed them for the chumps they are. Even with all the opportunities the Wizard missed on, LAC wouldn't have won with help from the refs.


Well lets not go too far. Clearly the Clippers were having an off shooting night. I can't remember Griffin missing that many from inside before. And their defense was pretty damn solid. In fact I'm really impressed the Wizards did as well as they did considering the defense they faced.


They let them play for a good portion of the game, but I think once Joey realized it may cost the clips a game, he saved them the embarrassment. Ariza actually did a damn good job on Jamal. His offensive inconsistencies are still pretty annoying, but he deserves praise for his play every now and then
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Re: Wizards @ Clippers - 1/19/13 - 10:30 PM EST

Postby hands11 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:57 am

This league is like the mob running the horses.

It makes me sick.

I would love to see the refs interviewed post game and questioned on bad calls and have them explain why the call was made the way it was. That would be educational and entertaining.
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Re: Wizards @ Clippers - 1/19/13 - 10:30 PM EST

Postby mhd on Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:59 am

CCJ, I DO know that Marc Cuban knows of realgm. He actually answered an email from me once and said so himself.
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Re: Wizards @ Clippers - 1/19/13 - 10:30 PM EST

Postby sfam on Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:02 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:One of the biggest calls of the night was the carry called against Wall by Erick Lewis. (Thanks 80s for calling Lewis out.)

The Wizards were very much in the game and Lewis made a call after Del Negro screamed at him, well after the violation. No way that call gets made against Chris Paul.

I hate it in any sport when the refs make marginal calls at crunch time. Really, they just shouldn't be the ones determining the game. Yeah, Wall did palm it, but it wasn't a gross palming or anything. Common refs, let the teams place ball in the last two minutes.
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Re: Wizards @ Clippers - 1/19/13 - 10:30 PM EST

Postby Chocolate City Jordanaire on Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:03 am

mhd wrote:CCJ, I DO know that Marc Cuban knows of realgm. He actually answered an email from me once and said so himself.


He got fined for his letter about the officiating. If he cannot help this situation, I think nothing short of someone getting indicted will.

I just stick to watching basketball for the love of it but stuff like the refs and the recent news on Billy Hunter and the man Hunter found dead would REALLY make you wonder. For my perspective, let fans enjoy games. The terrible stuff that might be going on is something that is on the side and takes away from the greatest game known to man: basketball. I just want to watch a game.

I know there are nights officials make human mistakes. But in my opinion there are obvious agendas at work at times with officiating crews. Last season, the NBA playoff officiating was so terrible that I didn't even enjoy watching. I like MLB's playoffs and the World Series a lot. And I'm not a baseball guy. The NBA turned me off the way the league is pandering to superstars, home teams, and letting officials at times run amok.

I just want to enjoy the games and the Wizards.
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Re: Wizards @ Clippers - 1/19/13 - 10:30 PM EST

Postby hands11 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:13 am

So a Wizards team with Wall off the bench and just getting its pull rotation of players back one game ago come with in a few pts or some none sucky ref calls of beating LAC on the road on a back to back after beating Denver.

They help LAC to 36% shooting and 5-21 from 3 23%

Either LAC are not as good as advertised or the Wizards are a lot better then advertised.
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Re: Wizards @ Clippers - 1/19/13 - 10:30 PM EST

Postby nuposse04 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:32 am

hands11 wrote:So a Wizards team with Wall off the bench and just getting its pull rotation of players back one game ago come with in a few pts or some none sucky ref calls of beating LAC on the road on a back to back after beating Denver.

They help LAC to 36% shooting and 5-21 from 3 23%

Either LAC are not as good as advertised or the Wizards are a lot better then advertised.


Its somewhere in-between. This team, with Wall back, would be above .500, easily, no questions in my mind. You can say it'll be a blessing in that we'll get a useful lotto pick out of it barring a miraculous run. We match up well with athletic unskilled teams, and badly with FCs that actually have some skill in their game. We still lost the game on rebounding. Randy shouldn't allow a single damn player to leak out in transition until all 5 guys crash the boards. Jan shoulda gotten minutes over Seraphin tonight. Seraphin played tired and like he didn't know what he was doing. He's the Rod Gardner of basketball, completely 50/50.
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Re: Wizards @ Clippers - 1/19/13 - 10:30 PM EST

Postby dangermouse on Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:24 am

Crawford SUCKS.

Which Crawford? All of them tonight except Jamal.
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Re: Wizards @ Clippers - 1/19/13 - 10:30 PM EST

Postby MD's Finest on Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:21 am

Everytime I have seen us go against Griffin he seems to get the most ticky tack calls, and they seem to call allot of contact that he initiates in the post. The fake elbow and the booker fouls were bad but there was one where he got stuck under the bakset and jumped backward into Nene and flailed with no real shot attempt and got a call. With the poor rebounding, FT shooting and turnovers can't really say the refs cost us the game but they definitely made it a tougher climb.

The best part I think about the game was the fact the Wiz did not havea great game and still were right there, they just never let the Clips put them away and if not for a couple big plays from CP3 and some bad FT shooting really could have had this one down the stretch. I just like the whole vibe of the team right now, everyone seems into it and they are getting contributions from so many guys.
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Re: Wizards @ Clippers - 1/19/13 - 10:30 PM EST

Postby BigA on Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:16 am

Clippers were -12.5 last night. Wizards have now covered for 6 straight games.
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Re: Wizards @ Clippers - 1/19/13 - 10:30 PM EST

Postby nate33 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:17 am

MD's Finest wrote:The best part I think about the game was the fact the Wiz did not havea great game and still were right there, they just never let the Clips put them away and if not for a couple big plays from CP3 and some bad FT shooting really could have had this one down the stretch. I just like the whole vibe of the team right now, everyone seems into it and they are getting contributions from so many guys.

This.

Despite playing poorly offensively, despite lopsided officiating, and despite missing a boatload of free throws, the Wizards gave one of the best teams in the league all they could handle, on the road, on a back to back. If the Wizards can bring this effort and defensive intensity every night, they're going to easily win more than half of their remaining games.

I hate to say this, because it's dangerously close to giving EG credit, but I kinda like the way the team is constructed. Everybody on the roster defends. The bigs are all physical on defense. With Beal, Webster, Price and Cartier Martin on the perimeter, the guards actually shoot like professional basketball player should. Nene and Seraphin can score on the block and usually require a double team. Most of the players are unselfish and are willing to move the ball.

I really feel like the overall character and style of play of this team is that of a contender. They play the right way. The only problem is that there isn't contender-level talent on the roster. Okafor does his best with the gifts God gave him, but he's no Tyson Chandler as a defensive anchor. He's just not long enough. Likewise, Nene and Seraphin are good at PF when they're at their best, but Nene is rarely 100% and Seraphin is still way too inconsistent. I like Ariza and Webster for the things that they bring to the team, and both are borderline starting-caliber players, but neither are above-average starters. If you could combine Ariza's defense with Webster's you would have the ideal SF. Beal has been great on offense in January, but he still suffers from typical rookie inexperience on defense. Wall is fine.
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Re: Wizards @ Clippers - 1/19/13 - 10:30 PM EST

Postby dangermouse on Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:45 am

Seraphin has had 2 games in a row where he defended the post about as well as anyone. He didnt give an inch.
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Re: Wizards @ Clippers - 1/19/13 - 10:30 PM EST

Postby hands11 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:50 am

dangermouse wrote:Crawford SUCKS.

Which Crawford? All of them tonight except Jamal.


News Flash. Jamal sucked tonight

It was not a good night for Crawfords.
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Re: Wizards @ Clippers - 1/19/13 - 10:30 PM EST

Postby dangermouse on Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:05 am

Oh yeah, he wasnt great. But at least he didnt hurt his team.
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