milellie111 wrote:Where would this franchise be without Ernie Grunfeld? Would we be in current conversations for contenders for the ECF?
Would we be in a position for Durant in 2 years?
Would we have Wall and Beal?
Would we have Wittman?
Would we have resigned Gortat?
Would we have Pierce, Humphries, and Blair for bargain deals?
All good questions for the doubters to think about. Pretty sure the answers will be disappointing.
Great questions. Here are some answers, and some questions for you:
"position for Durant..." -- DC is KD's home town. The most he's said is that if he played anywhere but OKC, he'd consider playing in DC. How is that to Ernie's credit?
"Wall and Beal" -- yes, we'd have them w/o Ernie. That is, we'd have them if we had the draft picks that got them for us.
"Wittman?" -- Huh? Randy was promoted from an assistant coach. Are you suggesting there was competition for his services as Head Coach? And he came here because of Ernie? Any GM who wanted Wittman as his HC could have hired him anywhere along the line.
"...resigned Gortat" -- Well, a good GM wouldn't have been in a position to need him so badly that he had to accept a complete screwing in a trade for him! Gortat cost us $14m last year, along w/ a R1 pick in the best draft in a decade. Once that's behind you, a sunk cost, then exactly why don't you think another GM would have re-signed Gortat?
"Pierce, Humphries, Blair for bargain deals" -- good player choices, and Ernie gets props for them! And if by "bargain deals" you mean that they are likely to be highly productive for dollar spent on them, then you are right. And Pierce is also a good marketing acquisition. But the deals themselve are simply what the market decided they were worth at present. Still, this is as close as you've come to making a real point in Ernie's favor, so congratulations.
Now, let me ask you some similar questions. "Without Ernie Grunfeld, would we..."
...have
Kawhi Leonard, Kenneth Faried and
Chandler Parsons on our team? Those are three of the very best young players in the league. Of course, had we picked them we would certainly not have had a shot at Bradley Beal. But we would quite likely had
Andre Drummond available to us.
...have a bench filled w/ outstanding young prospects like Jae Crowder, Kyle O'Quinn, Nate Wolters and Jordan Clarkson?
...have Tyler Ennis or Mitch McGary from the recent draft?
...have tons of cap room (not having made the Okariza trade) to add excellent players via trade and free agency -- and 5 of the best young stars in the league (Wall, Leonard, Faried, Parsons & Drummond), and lots of other gifted prospects as well, to attract them?
Etc. etc. etc.