Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 4

Hypnotizer · Post #1641 » by **Hypnotizer** » Sat Nov 1, 2014 4:40 am

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Post #1642 » by **LyricalRico** » Mon Nov 3, 2014 5:08 pm

One of president Phil Jackson’s big decisions this season is whether to trade J.R. Smith, and the club had recent conversations with the Pacers regarding ex-Knick Chris Copeland, according to a league source.

http://nypost.com/2014/11/03/source-kni ... land-deal/

Copeland is putting up points off the bench so far this year, and JR doesn't seem like he'd fit in with Indy so this doesn't seem likely. But I am curious to see how active Phil will be at the deadline, especially with Kevin Love now in Cleveland.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #1643 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:41 am

Drew Gordon got called up by the 76ers.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/ ... -d-league/

I liked him in the 2012 draft. He and Aaron Gordon come from what appears to be a very supportive, close family.

There are currently at least 4 sets of brothers in the NBA.

closg00 · Post #1644 » by **closg00** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:22 am

The Memphis Grizzlies have re-signed guard Kalin Lucas and center Hassan Whiteside.

Lucas (6-1, 186) originally was signed on Sept. 25 and averaged 3.1 points and 1.0 assists on .429 shooting in 7.9 minutes in eight preseason games for Memphis before he was waived on Oct. 25.

Whiteside (7-0, 275) originally was signed on Sept. 25 and recorded 3.4 points, 3.0 rebounds and 1.00 blocks on .500 shooting in 8.2 minutes in five preseason contests before he was waived on Oct. 22.

Shout-out to Dat, you may still be proven right about Hassan Whiteside.

closg00 · Post #1645 » by **closg00** » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:37 pm

Now Whiteside to the Heat, you need rim protection.
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... -Whiteside

verbal8 · Post #1646 » by **verbal8** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:24 pm

closg00 wrote:Now Whiteside to the Heat, you need rim protection.
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... -Whiteside

The Heat probably are a better chance for minutes vs. the Grizzlies. Especially with Birdman out.

payitforward · Post #1647 » by **payitforward** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:16 pm

Man do I love Jimmy Butler: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nb ... /19437583/

dckingsfan · Post #1648 » by **dckingsfan** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:01 pm

payitforward wrote:Man do I love Jimmy Butler: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nb ... /19437583/

yep, he has definitely made a jump this season. Really across the board, rebounding, passing, ball handling, overall shooting...

closg00 · Post #1649 » by **closg00** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:25 pm

The Bulls got two rotation players out of that draft, we got zero.

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Kanyewest · Post #1650 » by **Kanyewest** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:13 pm

closg00 wrote:The Bulls got two rotation players out of that draft, we got zero.

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Although the Bulls did give us Kevin Seraphin

If Chicago had kept their pick instead of offloading Hinrich's contract, I wonder who Chicago would have drafted. They potentially could have taken Bledsoe or Bradley.

payitforward · Post #1651 » by **payitforward** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:16 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
payitforward wrote:Man do I love Jimmy Butler: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nb ... /19437583/

yep, he has definitely made a jump this season. Really across the board, rebounding, passing, ball handling, overall shooting...

Agreed -- but really I meant I love him as a person, love his attitude and the sense of his character you get from that story.

payitforward · Post #1652 » by **payitforward** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:21 pm

Kanyewest wrote:
closg00 wrote:The Bulls got two rotation players out of that draft, we got zero.

Although the Bulls did give us Kevin Seraphin

If Chicago had kept their pick instead of offloading Hinrich's contract, I wonder who Chicago would have drafted. They potentially could have taken Bledsoe or Bradley.

Kanyewest -- ?? Butler was picked in the 2011 draft.

Closg00 -- and we had the opportunity to get 3 rotation players, even better than their 2. Even more amazing, we could have had Kawhi Leonard (who was my pick at #6), Kenneth Faried (my pick @#18) and Chandler Parsons (ditto @#34).

And, in fact, we *did* get a rotation NBA player, Shelvin Mack, and waived him.

All in all, a true triumph!

Kanyewest · Post #1653 » by **Kanyewest** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:23 pm

payitforward wrote:
Kanyewest wrote:
closg00 wrote:The Bulls got two rotation players out of that draft, we got zero.

Although the Bulls did give us Kevin Seraphin

If Chicago had kept their pick instead of offloading Hinrich's contract, I wonder who Chicago would have drafted. They potentially could have taken Bledsoe or Bradley.

Kanyewest -- ?? Butler was picked in the 2011 draft.

Closg00 -- and we had the opportunity to get 3 rotation players, even better than their 2. Even more amazing, we could have had Kawhi Leonard (who was my pick at #6), Kenneth Faried (my pick @#18) and Chandler Parsons (ditto @#34).

And, in fact, we *did* get a rotation NBA player, Shelvin Mack, and waived him.

All in all, a true triumph!

I know. I also know that Eric Bledsoe and Avery Bradley were from the 2010 draft. I'm just pointing out that even the Bulls make mistakes.

Post #1654 » by **Ruzious** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:47 pm

Speaking of mistakes, Philadelphia. But what they've done hasn't been by mistake. They're so bad, they're a reason to change the draft lotto rules. In a historically bad Eastern Con, they're the historically bad team of all times. On purpose! If there ever was a year that there was a college team that could become better than an NBA team, this might be it. Not now, but maybe by the end of the season, Kentucky might be almost as good as Philly.

Nivek · Post #1655 » by **Nivek** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:59 pm

Ruzious wrote:Speaking of mistakes, Philadelphia. But what they've done hasn't been by mistake. They're so bad, they're a reason to change the draft lotto rules. In a historically bad Eastern Con, they're the historically bad team of all times. On purpose! If there ever was a year that there was a college team that could become better than an NBA team, this might be it. Not now, but maybe by the end of the season, Kentucky might be almost as good as Philly.

The draft lottery change I'd like to see would go something like this:

- all 14 teams that don't make the playoffs
- 8 teams that lose in the first round of the playoffs

That's the lottery pool.

Un-weighted drawing for the top five spots. Then fill out draft position by worst record.

That "guarantees" that the worst team gets at least the 6th pick. But, that's a sucky "prize" because there's historically a drop-off at 6.

I think it ends tanking immediately. There's no benefit to missing the playoffs. No one will tank a playoff series to be part of the lottery.

Through last night's games, Philly had one player who rated above average in my system: Henry Sims with a 122 (where average = 100).

closg00 · Post #1656 » by **closg00** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:10 pm

Aaron Gray is a stand-up guy, I don't recall a similar story.
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... ing-Waived

queridiculo · Post #1657 » by **queridiculo** » Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:04 am

These refs..

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closg00 · Post #1658 » by **closg00** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 4:22 pm

Stephan Curry - 2009 - Randy/Foye trade
Harrison Barnes - 2010 - Brad Beal
Klay Thompson - 2011 - Jan Vesely
Draymond Green - 2012 - Sato

4 of 5 GSW starters were players Grunfeld passed on. With the exception of Barnes (luke-warm board opinion), the others were advocated for on the board at the time of their perspective drafts.

hands11 · Post #1659 » by **hands11** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:54 pm

payitforward wrote:
Kanyewest wrote:
closg00 wrote:The Bulls got two rotation players out of that draft, we got zero.

Although the Bulls did give us Kevin Seraphin

If Chicago had kept their pick instead of offloading Hinrich's contract, I wonder who Chicago would have drafted. They potentially could have taken Bledsoe or Bradley.

Kanyewest -- ?? Butler was picked in the 2011 draft.

Closg00 -- and we had the opportunity to get 3 rotation players, even better than their 2. Even more amazing, we could have had Kawhi Leonard (who was my pick at #6), Kenneth Faried (my pick @#18) and Chandler Parsons (ditto @#34).

And, in fact, we *did* get a rotation NBA player, Shelvin Mack, and waived him.

All in all, a true triumph!

I thought you hated posts like this bragging about who people would have picked. But like I said, everyone does it, including you so hopefully you can just except that's what people do on a sport board and get past that moving forward.

Here is what the board was thinking going into that draft and after. Since you were not here yet, none of your suggestions were documented here.

Some gems of insight along with some pretty funny predictions.

Here was a good one.

Kawhi Leonard would be the WORST option out of all. He can't shoot a lick, and had terrible efficiency numbers in college. He ranked as one of the worst offensive players from an efficiency standpoint according to DX.

On a team with one shooter (who's streaky), that's not a pick I would even remotely consider. Quite frankly, I have no clue how that guy even made it into lottery consideration...before the college season was up, he was seen as a mid-1st rounder.

And a REPLY

Gotta co-sign this. Leonard was a poor offensive player in college. The rebounding will translate and it sounds like he can defend but right now he's a situational player at best. I think he'll have a role in the league but so does Dominic McGuire and right now that's the comparison I keep coming back to. A deluxe version of McGuire. That's NOT what I'd want with the sixth pick

Slather me, Lather me, Blather me - 2011 Draft Thread 5
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Kanyewest · Post #1660 » by **Kanyewest** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:23 pm

closg00 wrote:Stephan Curry - 2009 - Randy/Foye trade
Harrison Barnes - 2010 - Brad Beal
Klay Thompson - 2011 - Jan Vesely
Draymond Green - 2012 - Sato

4 of 5 GSW starters were players Grunfeld passed on. With the exception of Barnes (luke-warm board opinion), the others were advocated for on the board at the time of their perspective drafts.

I don't remember anyone advocating for Klay Thompson and if there were people, it was a small voice. Then again, drafting just about anyone else would have been better than Jan Vesely.