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Damn, I knew Prigioni was an older rookie but I had no idea he's already 37. Shane Larkin? Thanasis Antetokounmpo? Honestly, I have no idea how this would work out.
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even given his limitations, I found Booker to be a guy who was often easy to root for.
Because of that, if he is going to leave, why does it have to be to become a Knick? Yuck.
But I do hope we get Blair. Like many here, I believe that would be a nice pickup.
Because of that, if he is going to leave, why does it have to be to become a Knick? Yuck.
But I do hope we get Blair. Like many here, I believe that would be a nice pickup.
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Yeah I'd rather run Booker and Blair together, not Seraphin and Blair. Blair should be seraphin's replacement.
Still, I want ed davis, someway, somehow...
Still, I want ed davis, someway, somehow...
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Also a damn shame he'll be a knick. He can do well, but I'd wish it were with a more tolerable fan base.
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pancakes3 wrote:Damn, I knew Prigioni was an older rookie but I had no idea he's already 37.
That is pretty amusing that is the same age as Brad Steven last year as a rookie..coach
pancakes3 wrote:Shane Larkin? Thanasis Antetokounmpo? Honestly, I have no idea how this would work out.
Those players are intriguing. I think Ellington might be the most likely. I don't think the Knicks would be in the position to send back just a TPE.
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Booker owes a piece of his next contract to Steve "Booker's now my favorite player in the NBA" Kerr.
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Booker+Webter for Dalembert?
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Boarder Patrol wrote:As a Knicks fan, what would you guys want from us?
Also, mind telling a little about Booker? We need a rebounder/defender inside so it looks like a decent pickup to me.
He has elite athleticism but weak court awarness on defense so his game is kind of a mixed bag. He is the best when it comes to running down lose balls but when it comes to making quick defense rotations, ugh.
Offensively he plays within himself pretty well. He is a limited player and understands this so he doesn't force things.
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Boarder Patrol wrote:As a Knicks fan, what would you guys want from us?
Also, mind telling a little about Booker? We need a rebounder/defender inside so it looks like a decent pickup to me.
Booker's a decent post defender. He's super strong. But he's short and can be shot over, and his help defense is turrble.
Good offensive rebounder. Kind of so-so defensive rebounder. Decent post game around the basket, has been trying to develop his midrange jumper, in a small sample it looked almost barely decent last year.
I've been taught all my life to value service to the weak and powerless.
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jmrosenth wrote:Booker owes a piece of his next contract to Steve "Booker's now my favorite player in the NBA" Kerr.
Kerr really did talk up Booker.
Kerr also loves Nene's "big hands". Golden State is certainly going to listen to any Nene trade ideas. Kerr loves him almost as much as his favorite player Booker.
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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:jmrosenth wrote:Booker owes a piece of his next contract to Steve "Booker's now my favorite player in the NBA" Kerr.
Kerr really did talk up Booker.
Kerr also loves Nene's "big hands". Golden State is certainly going to listen to any Nene trade ideas. Kerr loves him almost as much as his favorite player Booker.
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Lol. I went looking for a vid or audio clip of that episode while the playoffs were still going. Never did find it. You'd have thought Nene just dunked from mid court and didn't just pick up a ball from there judging by the way Kerr flipped out.
Kerr sat through Nene eating Noah alive in that Chicago series. You may be onto something in terms of GS being a potential partner down the road, CCJ.
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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Boarder Patrol wrote:As a Knicks fan, what would you guys want from us?
Also, mind telling a little about Booker? We need a rebounder/defender inside so it looks like a decent pickup to me.
Booker is a no-nonsense player. If he were a little bigger he would be a very good player. He is a grinder who plays within his limitations. He does what he is told to do on defense and he does not look for his own shot. He has worked on his shooting but is a reluctant scorer. Trevor Booker is a pretty good run and jump athlete. He is unselfish and probably could score more but he is content being a role player.
Booker will be good next to Carmelo Anthony.
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If Booker actually did what he was told on defense maybe he wouldn't be so lost all the damn time on the perimeter. I don't think it's because he doesn't try but honestly after four years, you'd hope he'd have at least improved his awareness to the point where his rotations would be passable & he'd have a clue of how to hedge on the pick & roll. Unfortunately he still doesn't so I don't know how you play him without hurting your defense. I don't see how you would play him with Carmelo. He shoots pretty well from mid-range but does so infrequently so opponents happily give him that shot to instead focus on his teammates, thus impacting spacing. His best attributes are probably his offensive rebounding & his efficiency but I don't think that offsets the lack of spacing his presence causes and all of his defensive shortcomings.
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Dat2U wrote:Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Boarder Patrol wrote:As a Knicks fan, what would you guys want from us?
Also, mind telling a little about Booker? We need a rebounder/defender inside so it looks like a decent pickup to me.
Booker is a no-nonsense player. If he were a little bigger he would be a very good player. He is a grinder who plays within his limitations. He does what he is told to do on defense and he does not look for his own shot. He has worked on his shooting but is a reluctant scorer. Trevor Booker is a pretty good run and jump athlete. He is unselfish and probably could score more but he is content being a role player.
Booker will be good next to Carmelo Anthony.
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If Booker actually did what he was told on defense maybe he wouldn't be so lost all the damn time on the perimeter. I don't think it's because he doesn't try but honestly after four years, you'd hope he'd have at least improved his awareness to the point where his rotations would be passable & he'd have a clue of how to hedge on the pick & roll. Unfortunately he still doesn't so I don't know how you play him without hurting your defense. I don't see how you would play him with Carmelo. He shoots pretty well from mid-range but does so infrequently so opponents happily give him that shot to instead focus on his teammates, thus impacting spacing. His best attributes are probably his offensive rebounding & his efficiency but I don't think that offsets the lack of spacing his presence causes and all of his defensive shortcomings.
If the Knicks get Booker, a times a Melo-Booker-Bargs frontcourt is a possibility. I see a lot of scoring for both teams if that happens.
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Christ, nothing on that team even mildly intrigues me. Ernie making me nervous
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JWizmentality wrote:Christ, nothing on that team even mildly intrigues me. Ernie making me nervous
Draft picks would be nice.
As much as I like Booker, he seems to be someone who will have a harder time reaching his potential. Being that we are in a "win now" mode, we don't have time to wait for him. We should get a upgraded bench player and/or draft pick for him.
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WallToWall wrote:JWizmentality wrote:Christ, nothing on that team even mildly intrigues me. Ernie making me nervous
Draft picks would be nice.
As much as I like Booker, he seems to be someone who will have a harder time reaching his potential. Being that we are in a "win now" mode, we don't have time to wait for him. We should get a upgraded bench player and/or draft pick for him.
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Phil seems to have real value with his draft picks, I don't see him giving up one for Trevor Booker.
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Mecca wrote:Hearing the trade will involve Wayne Ellington... Pablo Prigioni would also make a ton of sense, and he'd be a great fit with you guys.
If the Blair trade happens I think the loss of Booker is fine. We'd have Gortat, nene, Blair, Gooden, seraphin, Birtch and some PP as a stretch 4 for bigs. Ellington could fill in for Webster while he recovers, backing up both SG and SF and gives the Wizards options.
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Dat2U wrote:Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Boarder Patrol wrote:As a Knicks fan, what would you guys want from us?
Also, mind telling a little about Booker? We need a rebounder/defender inside so it looks like a decent pickup to me.
Booker is a no-nonsense player. If he were a little bigger he would be a very good player. He is a grinder who plays within his limitations. He does what he is told to do on defense and he does not look for his own shot. He has worked on his shooting but is a reluctant scorer. Trevor Booker is a pretty good run and jump athlete. He is unselfish and probably could score more but he is content being a role player.
Booker will be good next to Carmelo Anthony.
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If Booker actually did what he was told on defense maybe he wouldn't be so lost all the damn time on the perimeter. I don't think it's because he doesn't try but honestly after four years, you'd hope he'd have at least improved his awareness to the point where his rotations would be passable & he'd have a clue of how to hedge on the pick & roll. Unfortunately he still doesn't so I don't know how you play him without hurting your defense. I don't see how you would play him with Carmelo. He shoots pretty well from mid-range but does so infrequently so opponents happily give him that shot to instead focus on his teammates, thus impacting spacing. His best attributes are probably his offensive rebounding & his efficiency but I don't think that offsets the lack of spacing his presence causes and all of his defensive shortcomings.
Did you ever sell a car, Dat? Are the first things you did is point out rust and mention the electrical problems the car experienced?
You're much more accurate about failings you've seen over the years from Booker.I remember just watching the last thing. Booker in these playoffs. Booker had some strong moments. Steve Kerr pointed out many positive plays by Booker.
(Now in the Blair thread I posted Booker is a better athlete but IMO Blair is a much better player. I mentioned Blair playing physical ball and not getting outworked by guys like Gibson and West. )
Dat, I do think Booker's reluctance to shoot will play well with Carmelo shooting very frequently. Booker is fast. He can run with Melo. He will rebound Melo's misses. Knicks fans will appreciate Trevor IMO.
I don't think Booker is nearly as bad as you do, Dat.
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Boarder Patrol wrote:As a Knicks fan, what would you guys want from us?
Also, mind telling a little about Booker? We need a rebounder/defender inside so it looks like a decent pickup to me.
Undersized - 6'6, 6'7 tops. Good at hustle things (loose balls, offensive boards, etc),not so good at playing team defense. Booker isn't the brightest guy in the world..
Btw he is an insane athlete. Freakishly fast for his size (he ran the fastest 3/4-sprint at the combine, faster than Wall) and when he jumps for oops it's like he came off a trampoline. Kinda cool but not really useful to your team other than in transition
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J-Ves wrote:Mecca wrote:Hearing the trade will involve Wayne Ellington... Pablo Prigioni would also make a ton of sense, and he'd be a great fit with you guys.
If the Blair trade happens I think the loss of Booker is fine. We'd have Gortat, nene, Blair, Gooden, seraphin, Birtch and some PP as a stretch 4 for bigs. Ellington could fill in for Webster while he recovers, backing up both SG and SF and gives the Wizards options.
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I think they need to set Seraphin free if they sign Blair. Booker could have played with Blair, but I am liking all the positive talk about Khem Birch. I like Birch as a Booker replacement.
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