Political Roundtable - Part VII

[popper]

These charts scare the heck out of me given the unprecedented stimulus spending.
9 Trillion in new debt over the last 7 years plus
4 + Trillion added to Fed's balance sheet

Also read today that Citi is predicting that US will enter another recession in 2016.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-16/obamas-recovery-just-9-charts

[nate33]

These charts scare the heck out of me given the unprecedented stimulus spending.
9 Trillion in new debt over the last 7 years plus
4 + Trillion added to Fed's balance sheet

Also read today that Citi is predicting that US will enter another recession in 2016.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-16/obamas-recovery-just-9-charts

Those deserve to be posted directly:

[Zonkerbl]

These charts scare the heck out of me given the unprecedented stimulus spending.
9 Trillion in new debt over the last 7 years plus
4 + Trillion added to Fed's balance sheet

Also read today that Citi is predicting that US will enter another recession in 2016.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-16/obamas-recovery-just-9-charts

Those deserve to be posted directly:

Damn Republican-led Congress!

[fishercob]

Reminder: today's mass shooting in California has nothing to do with guns.

[closg00]

This current active-shooter situation is truly frightening. A masked killing team enters a building, kills scores of people, then escapes. Doesn't sound like domestic terrorism, or death-wish lunatics. These guys (if they are not found), will re-surface elsewhere to do a repeat slaughter until they are stopped. Could be foreign terrorist.

[nate33]

This current active-shooter situation is truly frightening. A masked killing team enters a building, kills scores of people, then escapes. Doesn't sound like domestic terrorism, or death-wish lunatics. These guys (if they are not found), will re-surface elsewhere to do a repeat slaughter until they are stopped. Could be foreign terrorist.

Yeah. This doesn't fit the MO of a terrorist attack or a random crazy person mad at the world. There were 3 gun men in military gear and they had an escape plan. WTF is going on?

[closg00]

This current active-shooter situation is truly frightening. A masked killing team enters a building, kills scores of people, then escapes. Doesn't sound like domestic terrorism, or death-wish lunatics. These guys (if they are not found), will re-surface elsewhere to do a repeat slaughter until they are stopped. Could be foreign terrorist.

Yeah. This doesn't fit the MO of a terrorist attack or a random crazy person mad at the world. There were 3 gun men in military gear and they had an escape plan. WTF is going on?

It has to be either domestic antigovernment types, or foreign terrorist.

[nate33]

But then, why would they pick a mental disabilities facility as a target (other than it probably being a gun free zone)?

[pineappleheadindc]

But then, why would they pick a mental disabilities facility as a target (other than it probably being a gun free zone)?

THIS is the real non-understandable thing IMO. You gather a 3-man shooting team and plan out your assault and escape. And what's your target? A facility that works with folks with disabilities. Huh??

That target is not something that any sort of terrorist would want in terms of making a statement. And if you're wanting a soft target just because, heck probably a Starbucks drive by would be easier.

Seems like things not adding up (at least on the surface) I'm curious to find out what the whole story is.

[TheSecretWeapon]

I disagree that a terrorist would avoid a target like the one attacked today. The whole point of a terrorist attack is to get attention and scare people. What's more scary and disconcerting than an attack on disabled people? The core message being delivered in an attack on a facility serving disabled people is this: anyone, anywhere, any time.

[closg00]

Apparently they have captured or killed the people involved, let's see who they are.

[Induveca]

http://www.imilap.com/profileresultDetail.asp?id=35242#more

That's the male shooter....the photo being leaked is the wrong guy. Pakistani ethnicity but born in US.

Got married via online site to Pakistani woman living in Saudi Arabia.

[nate33]

http://www.imilap.com/profileresultDetail.asp?id=35242#more

That's the male shooter....the photo being leaked is the wrong guy. Pakistani ethnicity but born in US.

Got married via online site to Pakistani woman living in Saudi Arabia.

Reportedly, he want to Saudi Arabia last year.

Also, several of the Paris attackers were second-generation Muslim immigrants as well.

[Induveca]

http://www.imilap.com/profileresultDetail.asp?id=35242#more

That's the male shooter....the photo being leaked is the wrong guy. Pakistani ethnicity but born in US.

Got married via online site to Pakistani woman living in Saudi Arabia.

Reportedly, he want to Saudi Arabia last year.

Also, several of the Paris attackers were second-generation Muslim immigrants as well.

Yeah but one thing that should be pointed out, his wife is Pakistani as well.

Saudi Arabia, from my experienced perspective, has zero to do with this. She was a Pakistani migrant worker in Riyadh (there are millions across that region, and are treated like dirt by the Saudi and GCC citizens). Will be interesting to see what happens. Bizarre case, there is indeed a 3rd person in custody reportedly his brother. However he has an alibi apparently.

The Feds need to keep this quiet as possible to find the other people involved. This guy had a very low profile online.

[closg00]

http://www.imilap.com/profileresultDetail.asp?id=35242#more

That's the male shooter....the photo being leaked is the wrong guy. Pakistani ethnicity but born in US.

Got married via online site to Pakistani woman living in Saudi Arabia.

Reportedly, he want to Saudi Arabia last year.

Also, several of the Paris attackers were second-generation Muslim immigrants as well.

Sleeper Jihadi sympathizer who acted, there are more.

[Zonkerbl]

Time to ban the manufacture and import of guns.

[I_Like_Dirt]

I disagree that a terrorist would avoid a target like the one attacked today. The whole point of a terrorist attack is to get attention and scare people. What's more scary and disconcerting than an attack on disabled people? The core message being delivered in an attack on a facility serving disabled people is this: anyone, anywhere, any time.

But the kind of attention and from whom matters. And that's where this is confusing. Usually the attention sought from terrorist attacks isn't principally from the targets, but the rest of the Muslim world. It's a perverted form of a show of strength to demonstrate that their organization is capable of doing something. I'm not so sure this type of attack achieves that in any way. It could still be seen in the light of trying to draw retaliation which would continue to strengthen the divide desired by many international terrorists, but it would definitely be a bit of an unusual case if that proves to be what happened here. Personally, I suspect this has more to do with personal stuff, but it will be interesting to find out if anything is ever publicly known about the motivations here. It's curious and we may never know.

[Zonkerbl]

"Fear us, we are cowards who are afraid to attack anyone but the disabled!"

[nate33]

Time to ban the manufacture and import of guns.

Works perfectly in France.

[Zonkerbl]

And Britain. And Australia. And pretty much every other developed country in the world.

"Yay, we're better than Guatemala!"