Ruzious wrote:BruceO wrote:payitforward wrote:Interesting...
No matter how many times I look at what Atlanta did, I still can't figure it out. The trade with us, and the subsequent trade of the #19 pick for Tim Hardaway Jr.
With all the competition to move up and grab Oubre, they got a journeyman and two R2 picks out of it? What am I missing?
Rashad Vaughan. I think milwaukee was going to get oubre but hadn't shown interest in Vaughan. Atlanta trades down a few spots while still trying to get Vaughan. Milwaukee cheated out of the player they want in turn cheats Atlanta out of the player hey were trading down for. Atlanta is left without the prospect they wanted to fill a shooting guard need so trades for a young one.
I gotta admit, the Vaughan pick shocked me - but could very well be a smart pick by the Bucks. I assumed he was a late first/early second rounder. I don't think Oubre could have slid to Milwaukee.
I totally agree with PIF on Atlanta. They bleeped up. They could/should have gotten more in the trade down and should have kept the pick rather than trade it for Hardaway. Hardaway is the classic case of a player a casual fan would overrate. He passes all of the eye tests, he's got a pretty 3 point shot, and he loves to shoot - and his father was a great scorer. Howevuh, he's not a very good basketball player. Grant would have been a nice pick for them, but PORTIS I think would have been perfect for them. He'd fit perfectly next to either Horford or Splitter. I supposed they're going to be using Millsap at the 3. I might have leaned toward keeping Carroll if that's the case - but that's a tossup - I can't fault them for keeping Millsap.
In theory what they did was slick. Getting a couple picks for moving back without missing much talent. However the implementation was a major fail.
I agree they must have been targeting someone like Vaughn. I can't see Hardaway being plan A.
However I think with the 19th pick: Portis, Justin Anderson, Grant or even Delon Wright would have been better options. I could see the appeal of Hardaway after his promising rookie year, however I think his performance last year and only having 2 years of his rookie contract left should have severely hampered his trade value. Delon Wright at 23 probably has the least upside, but if he worked out he would be under a cheap contract for 4 years. The rest of the options would have significantly more upside than Hardaway.
I don't recall the timing of the move - was it done before the Wizards pick?