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Re: Wizards in the Media Thread

Postby dandridge 10 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:43 pm

Nivek wrote:I think "lying" is a bit strong, but words like "misleading" or "incorrect" definitely apply.

When Buckhantz says, "The Wizards are the third best offensive rebounding team in the league..." and CSN puts up a stat showing team offensive rebounds per game...well...that stat doesn't mean what he's saying it means.

Whether they're intentionally misleading, I don't know. It's possible they're just ignorant. That's kind of a stretch considering how much information is readily available, but it's possible.


Sounds like what all the politicians do!
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Re: Wizards in the Media Thread

Postby maljanNBAfan on Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:57 pm

dandridge 10 wrote:
Nivek wrote:I think "lying" is a bit strong, but words like "misleading" or "incorrect" definitely apply.

When Buckhantz says, "The Wizards are the third best offensive rebounding team in the league..." and CSN puts up a stat showing team offensive rebounds per game...well...that stat doesn't mean what he's saying it means.

Whether they're intentionally misleading, I don't know. It's possible they're just ignorant. That's kind of a stretch considering how much information is readily available, but it's possible.


Sounds like what all the politicians do!


The media can be the BIGGEST offenders of misleading the public and "exaggerating" the truth. I hate that they also use the tactic when giving us the latest sports news.
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Re: Wizards in the Media Thread

Postby LamarMatic7 on Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:18 pm

Thought that you guys might enjoy my latest youtube uploads from an '98 Wizards - Warriors game:





Didn't know whether this deserves a thread for itself or not, so I figured that I'll drop this off in this thread.
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Re: Wizards in the Media Thread

Postby closg00 on Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:54 am

Some basketball sages I know think Jan Vesely’s game is very one-dimensional, all activity around the basket, no real touch or discernible nose for defense. They call the Wizards’ second-year forward Yawn Vesely.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wi ... story.html

:lol: Yawn Vesely :lol:
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Re: Wizards in the Media Thread

Postby Chocolate City Jordanaire on Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:52 am

maljanNBAfan wrote:
dandridge 10 wrote:
Nivek wrote:I think "lying" is a bit strong, but words like "misleading" or "incorrect" definitely apply.

When Buckhantz says, "The Wizards are the third best offensive rebounding team in the league..." and CSN puts up a stat showing team offensive rebounds per game...well...that stat doesn't mean what he's saying it means.

Whether they're intentionally misleading, I don't know. It's possible they're just ignorant. That's kind of a stretch considering how much information is readily available, but it's possible.


Sounds like what all the politicians do!


The media can be the BIGGEST offenders of misleading the public and "exaggerating" the truth. I hate that they also use the tactic when giving us the latest sports news.


I love it when relevant, descriptive stats are used objectively to inform. What i don't like is the media, even in basketball games, just like with politics, only shows one side or what they want to report. I get sick of hearing ad nauseum about Lebron or D Wade's hangnail. The stats they show are how many points Lebron and other stars show. Same guys over and over, and nothing beyond the obvious stuff, too. I would much rather see a stat that points to why the Heat are a good defensive team, despite having superstars. I don't worry too much about the game stats because I generally will follow box scores, too, while watching a game. (No life and a bit scary, I know!)

I agree, Nivek, that stats can help viewers understand things a lot better. I do believe, unfortunately, that many people misunderstand statistical presentations. A local football coach (Norm Chow) made a statement the other day that really set me off. I've heard this statement before. I'm not a numbers guy. I just go by results."

When it comes to dollars and cents, everybody is real specific about the numbers. Why don't they appreciate stats as a tool to indicate trends in sports?
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Re: Wizards in the Media Thread

Postby Nivek on Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:22 am

I agree that many folks don't understand statistical presentations -- at least initially. But, in most cases stats can be explained quickly in a way that folks can understand -- even advanced stats. I actually have practice with this from watching games with my kids. If I can successfully explain offensive rating, rebound percentage, effective field goal percentage, etc. to (at the time) children 10 years old or younger in less time than it takes a PG to bring the ball up the floor and initiate an offensive set...TV broadcasters could sufficiently explain the stats for the average viewer.

Now, of course, my kids are a bit older. My daughter (17) just gives me these patronizing nods when I start talking hoops stats. My 13-year old son does the equivalent of, "Hey, how 'bout that." My 15-year old is already taking math more advanced than I ever took. He'll look at a formula and say stuff like, "There's a more efficient way to do that..."
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Re: Wizards in the Media Thread

Postby nuposse04 on Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:45 pm

http://mybspn.com/gilbert-arenas-blames-halo/

lol. Somebody posted this site on the general board, has some funny gems in it. I made an article real quick to show some friend but it sucks comparatively to some of these other ones. I guess it counts as wizards in the media.
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Re: Wizards in the Media Thread

Postby Chocolate City Jordanaire on Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:47 pm

SB Nation and Bullets Forever generate a lot of good discussion topics. This is article lists media polls and weekly Wizards rankings.

Ted Leonsis should be apprised that for all of Ernie Grunfeld's veteran acquisitions, a consensus rank the Wizards 29th of 30 teams.

http://dc.sbnation.com/washington-wizar ... on-wizards

The Washington Wizards have fallen in the majority of power ranking polls following an 0-2 start to the 2012-13 regular season. Following losses to the Cleveland Cavaliers and Boston Celtics, the Wizards, who were already near the bottom of most lists, find themselves even closer to No. 30 overall.
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Re: Wizards in the Media Thread

Postby LyricalRico on Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:44 am

A Washington Wizards fan’s guide to watching a terrible team
By Jason Reid, Published: November 8

If you like top-notch basketball, don’t waste your time on the Washington Wizards. Only three games into a new season, the winless Wizards again find themselves at the bottom of the NBA standings. Their history indicates they’ll probably stay there.

But if you’re a Wizards supporter (yes, there are still some) or simply a sports fan channel surfing for a hoops fix, then the Wizards do have something to offer. It’s all a matter of how you look at things. We’re happy to provide a viewing guide.


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Re: Wizards in the Media Thread

Postby closg00 on Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:19 am

The Wizards are being ripped apart in the media, we have replaced the Clippers as the laughingstock of the league.
Just one of the many articles in recent days.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc- ... -disgrace/
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Re: Wizards in the Media Thread

Postby GhostsOfGil on Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:44 am

closg00 wrote:The Wizards are being ripped apart in the media, we have replaced the Clippers as the laughingstock of the league.
Just one of the many articles in recent days.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc- ... -disgrace/


:lol: Did you watch Michael Jenkins' post game clip at the bottom? It's come to the point where we're embracing the losing.. Just turn it into a joke i guess... :oops:
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Re: Wizards in the Media Thread

Postby Jimmy Recard on Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:48 am

Coach Nick breaks down the Wiz-Okc game. Check it out when you get a chance, definitely worth watching. Also, special appearance from Mike Lee :lol:

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Re: Wizards in the Media Thread

Postby tontoz on Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:05 am

Coach Nick loves to point out Westbrooks brain farts. When your primary ball handler has a low IQ that is a pretty big problem, especially for a team trying to win a title.
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Re: Wizards in the Media Thread

Postby Knighthonor on Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:14 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:Thought that you guys might enjoy my latest youtube uploads from an '98 Wizards - Warriors game:





Didn't know whether this deserves a thread for itself or not, so I figured that I'll drop this off in this thread.

You if you would say the Wizards were good at some point, I call you a liar after seeing the total sum of these past 3 seasons.
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Re: Wizards in the Media Thread

Postby mhd on Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:24 pm

Zach Lowe with another awesome piece.


http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-trian ... the-throne


"It's sort of a "duh" thing, but the Wizards for the rest of the season will serve as a useful reminder that having good NBA players is sort of important. The Wiz have been a disaster offensively this season, spending almost the entirety of it ranked dead last in points per possession, with a mark rivaling Charlotte's historically bad figure from last year's messy lockout season. Their shot selection profile has been dreadful; the Wiz rank last in shots per game at the rim and "first" in long 2-point attempts.

But Washington's offense hasn't looked that bad, aesthetically, with the exception of some horrific crunch-time disorganization (shot clock violations, Jordan Crawford recklessness) here and there. They've moved the ball, assisting on a higher-than-average share of their baskets, and they've made an effort to run some almost artful NBA sets. Even Crawford, perhaps the league's premier ball-hog, upped his assist rate to a career-best level while spending significant time running the offense in John Wall's absence.

The team just had bad or untested NBA players, at almost every position. Things changed when Nenê returned and started playing more minutes; the Wiz have actually outscored opponents by about 5 points per 100 possessions with Nenê on the floor, a mark that would rank 6th overall — pretty remarkable for a 7-29 team. It's amazing how much better those semi-artful sets work with a big guy who can actually shoot, pass, and cut in smart ways — and how many more sets become possible for Randy Wittman to actually use.

Now Wall is back, too, and though the returns haven't been quite as robust, you can already see the Wall/Bradley Beal duo bearing fruit. Beal is 12-of-22 from the floor in his very limited minutes with Wall, and his 26-point explosion against Sacramento last night showed Beal has already learned one very important Wall-related lesson: Run to the corners when Wall pushes the ball, and spot-up for wide-open 3's. We even saw Washington run a Wall/Beal pick-and-roll, with Beal screening and fading to the left wing for open 3's.

Here's a prediction: I'll bet the Wizards end up outscoring the opposition for the season when both Wall and Nenê are on the court."
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