OT: Roger Mason kills the Suns

[newslowsad]

You're the man now dawg.

Couldn't happen to a better dude.

[Halcyon]

DAGGER!!

[thewizards2k2]

ive been saying since last summer that losing roger mason will be our biggest mistake and it has been. Nick Young clearly was not ready to fill in for him.

[LyricalRico]

Man, the Suns just can't buy a win against San Antonio. Great shot by Mason. I laughed when I saw how he got open - Jason Richardson pulled a "Gilbert". A 2 sends it into OT but JRich sagged off his man on the Parker drive.

[closg00]

It was certainly bittersweet to watch him nail it. The announcer said that Mason leads the NBA in made 3-pointers. You gotta credit the Spurs GM who saw the potential for another "value" role-player. Our GM??? not so much.

[mhd]

It was certainly bittersweet to watch him nail it. The announcer said that Mason leads the NBA in made 3-pointers. You gotta credit the Spurs GM who saw the potential for another "value" role-player. Our GM??? not so much.

If EG could have resigned him, he would have. We simply didn't have any room under the luxary tax.

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't really blame you guys for not re-signing him..we DID overpay for him at the time, so it's understandable with the amount of guards you guys had coming into the season, and the fact that Young is the future..

[BruceO]

holy sh*t, they are saying he's number 3 , 3 point shooter in the NBA

[toughjuice03]

holy sh*t, they are saying he's number 3 , 3 point shooter in the NBA

Yea, that's what they're reporting on TNT overdrive it was an awesome shot and I'm happy he hit it.

[ZonkertheBrainless]

BUT THE REASON THEY COULDN'T SIGN HIM WAS BECAUSE THEY HAD JUST SIGNED DS WITH THE MONEY THEY COULD HAVE SPENT ON MASON

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[hands11]

BUT THE REASON THEY COULDN'T SIGN HIM WAS BECAUSE THEY HAD JUST SIGNED DS WITH THE MONEY THEY COULD HAVE SPENT ON MASON

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I'm right there with ya. I wanted us to keep Roger Mason and have wanted to get ride of DS for a while.

We didn't have to suck this bad this season. Keep RM would have made a difference.

RM and DS are light night and day.

RM is mature, solid, mentally focused. Nothing really rattles the guy.

DS is immature and mentally weak.

It so sucks we kept the wrong one. Maturity is something this team needed to improve and upgrade. CB, AJ and DSONG are solid. Haywood has grown up a lot over the last year or so. AD was mature but we needed to upgrade on the talent side. I think we did that with James.

But this team had/has to many knuckheads so we needed to get ride of the older ones so the younger guys are surrounded by good role models.

[Ruzious]

It was certainly bittersweet to watch him nail it. The announcer said that Mason leads the NBA in made 3-pointers. You gotta credit the Spurs GM who saw the potential for another "value" role-player. Our GM??? not so much.

If EG could have resigned him, he would have. We simply didn't have any room under the luxary tax.

Easy there, mhd. No objectivity is allowed in this thread. If you're not down with the fact that having our 3rd string shooting guard back would have made all the difference in the world, then you've crossed the line, sir. And if you mention that Stevenson was signed the year before, then you best up and leave. Capeechay?

[RickRoll_inDC]

Way to go Roger!

Good to see that he's actually being used in SA. Here he would be a 3rd SG and maybe play 15mpg under EJ and now Taps. Now he's starting some games for an obvious Championship contender.....couldn't be happier for him

[closg00]

It was certainly bittersweet to watch him nail it. The announcer said that Mason leads the NBA in made 3-pointers. You gotta credit the Spurs GM who saw the potential for another "value" role-player. Our GM??? not so much.

If EG could have resigned him, he would have. We simply didn't have any room under the luxary tax.

Easy there, mhd. No objectivity is allowed in this thread. If you're not down with the fact that having our 3rd string shooting guard back would have made all the difference in the world, then you've crossed the line, sir. And if you mention that Stevenson was signed the year before, then you best up and leave. Capeechay?

Actually, it would have made a significant difference having Mason back as evidenced by his clutch play for us while he was here, and now for the Spurs. The fact that Mason was a under utilized "3rd string shooting guard" for us is more a reflection of our incompetent coaching staff and GM. Again, the Spurs we laughing all the way to the bank before the ink was even dry. The Wiz? we now have the worst SG in the NBA.

[hands11]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... nro01.html

True. More important then saying what string he was here is looking at the facts.

He is starting for SAS and they are a championship quality team and organization.
Also, his numbers are up playing for that same team. .477% from 3 land is nasty for a guy that takes 5 a game. Some of that is probably who he plays with and how they use him but some of that is just RM. We saw his come into his own last year.

So given that our greatest weakness this year is probably SG, I don't think it is a stretch to say he would have helped out there a ton. Specially because of the kind of player/person he is. He is rock solid.

There is a big difference between RM and DS or NY.

Top that off with us being 28th in 3 pt shooting and that is what RM is best at. He would have helped open the court for other players and given us a better line up for crunch time scoring.

But with everyone healthy here, he wouldn't be a starter because that would force one of AJ or CB to the bench or off the team given their salaries if the plan is to move AJ out from PF. But it would have worked well so far this year with our injuries.

AB, AJ, CB, RM, James

But longer term, I still think the problem is AJ PF and CB SF. We need more defense at the 4. Keeping RM would make you really look at the whole team design and salaries if you wanted to keep him here as a starter. I don't think we were ready to do that just yet with GA out and NY in the wins signed cheap so he can come off the bench. When healthy we will likely see.

BH, AB, AJ, CB, GA

vs

BH, AJ, CB, RM, GA

Id rather be bigger at PF, SF and SG with the first line up. We just need CB to re-devote himself to working on his 3 ball and GA to work on perimeter D. Man up and funnel everyone down to Haywood and Blatche. One offense, that first line up has everything you would want. Height, 3 balls, drives, glue, post play. One D, the post D is there. We just need to see what they can do on the perimeter if they focus knowing their backs are covered.

[closg00]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/masonro01.html

True. More important then saying what string he was here is looking at the facts.

He is starting for SAS and they are a championship quality team and organization.
Also, his numbers are up playing for that same team. .477% from 3 land is nasty for a guy that takes 5 a game. Some of that is probably who he plays with and how they use him but some of that is just RM. We saw his come into his own last year.

So given that our greatest weakness this year is probably SG, I don't think it is a stretch to say he would have helped out there a ton. Specially because of the kind of player/person he is. He is rock solid.

There is a big difference between RM and DS or NY.

Top that off with us being 28th in 3 pt shooting and that is what RM is best at. He would have helped open the court for other players and given us a better line up for crunch time scoring.

But with everyone healthy here, he wouldn't be a starter because that would force one of AJ or CB to the bench or off the team given their salaries if the plan is to move AJ out from PF. But it would have worked well so far this year with our injuries.

AB, AJ, CB, RM, James

But longer term, I still think the problem is AJ PF and CB SF. We need more defense at the 4. Keeping RM would make you really look at the whole team design and salaries if you wanted to keep him here as a starter. I don't think we were ready to do that just yet with GA out and NY in the wins signed cheap so he can come off the bench. When healthy we will likely see.

BH, AB, AJ, CB, GA

vs

BH, AJ, CB, RM, GA

Id rather be bigger at PF, SF and SG with the first line up. We just need CB to re-devote himself to working on his 3 ball and GA to work on perimeter D. Man up and funnel everyone down to Haywood and Blatche. One offense, that first line up has everything you would want. Height, 3 balls, drives, glue, post play. One D, the post D is there. We just need to see what they can do on the perimeter if they focus knowing their backs are covered.

Stop confusing people with actual facts

[Ruzious]

Actually, it would have made a significant difference having Mason back as evidenced by his clutch play for us while he was here, and now for the Spurs. The fact that Mason was a under utilized "3rd string shooting guard" for us is more a reflection of our incompetent coaching staff and GM. Again, the Spurs we laughing all the way to the bank before the ink was even dry. The Wiz? we now have the worst SG in the NBA.

Gong. The differences between Nick Young and Roger Mason are that Mason is playing with Tim Duncan and Parker, Mason has been around longer/is more experienced, and Young has more potential. And I'm not even a big fan of Young's. It doesn't take a well-rounded player to play the role Mason is playing. He's a very good outside shooter who is below average in pretty much every other facet of the game.

[doclinkin]

Gong. The differences between Nick Young and Roger Mason are that Mason is playing with Tim Duncan and Parker, Mason has been around longer/is more experienced, and Young has more potential. And I'm not even a big fan of Young's. It doesn't take a well-rounded player to play the role Mason is playing. He's a very good outside shooter who is below average in pretty much every other facet of the game.

For the Wiz he was a _slightly_ above-average defender as well. Haven't seen him with San Antone.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Nick's far more physically gifted. Being younger, Young's obviously got the higher ceiling.

Mason IMO is smarter on the court than Nick will perhaps ever be. Roger is a FAR BETTER defender at this point in his career. He is not below average defensively IMHO. Nick is well below average defensively.

Otherwise, I agree that Young would probably look a darn sight better playing alongside Parker and Duncan than he does playing as a Wizard.

[Ruzious]

Guys, to put it in perspective, at Nick Young's age, Mason was trying - and sometimes failing - to hold an NBA job. Fwiw, his defensive +/- numbers have never been on the right side - even when playing for the very bad defensive Zards. We can agree to disagree about his defensive performance. He's a shooting specialist - and that's pretty much all SA requires of him - and he does it well. Washington needs more than that.

It's a moot point to a degree, unless you think Washington should have paid the luxury tax to try to keep him - which I can't imagine anyone wanting. Now, should the Wiz have signed Stevenson 2 years ago to the contract they gave him? Hell no - as I shouted at the time. But that was the situation the Wiz were in last offseason.