FLEB RON: Wiz vs. the Crabwalkin' Traveliers

[pancakes3]

what the magic did to the cavs today puts our win into perspective.

how so?

we beat them... but the magic crushed them. but then again this latest game with the cavs crushing the spurs re-perspective-izes our W.

[TheSecretWeapon]

Don't oversell Ernie's adherence to advanced metrics. They have a couple guys in the front office who are interested in advanced stats, but the team has been unwilling to actually pay for said stats. They get an "advanced" stat report from a consultant (who also supplies reports to 10 or so other teams) periodically. I saw a couple of those reports when I was doing a small project for the team, and they were unimpressive to my eye. I think there's better work being done by a number of people at the APBRmetrics board. Not even counting the APBRmetrics guys who have been siphoned off by teams.

Eh. Too bad. Wishful thinking I guess. I suppose it was just Erinie's appreciation for Haywood (on a cheap extension) and desire for better defense despite failing to replace the better defenders when they left. Then the public snubbing when Tom Tippytoe left the scene. And the power struggle inherent when an owner handpicks the coach. I like both Ernie and Eddie, I'd have preferred it worked out for all involved. Along with improved defense, and depth, and wins and all.

Shame on the stats deal though. I suppose it was Pat Riley and JVG driving that bus in NY.

Ernie isn't a stats Luddite. He lets a couple of his primary advisors indulge in them, and he listens to their advice. But Ernie himself is much more in the "I know what I see" school.

Riley definitely is into the advanced metrics -- especially the stuff his teams track themselves.

[Manny Phresh]

what the magic did to the cavs today puts our win into perspective.

how so?

The Wiz win sapped the Cavs of their will to win. They just crash and burn from here on.

I see that didn't last too long

[BigA]

The Wiz win sapped the Cavs of their will to win. They just crash and burn from here on.

I see that didn't last too long

That was a joke, not a prediction. Maybe I need to put in [/jk] or something.

For the record, I expect the Cavs to win Wednesday (hopefully the Wizards give them a game). I expect the Cavs to get to the finals, though Orlando might give them some trouble (more so than Boston). I think they have more of a shot at the Lakers than they did at the Spurs a few years back, and probably take it to at least 6 games.

Also, after reading some of the reactions to the question "would you trade Butler for James" on here, I don't have anywhere near the dislike for Lebron (or even the Cavs) that most of the Wizboard has, though I enjoy and encourage poking fun at him. I'd be neutral for Cavs-Lakers.

[hands11]

They are going to want to get revenge at home. That's for sure.

I can't believe the Spur couldn't hang with them. Big Z was like a glove on Timmy.
It just didn't look like a good match up.

Good thing we have Haywood and he owns Z. That makes a huge difference for us.

The Spurs just looked old except for Parker.

Well SAS didn't take care of business. I was hoping to catch Cleveland on a 0-3 slide which we started so we could make it 0-4.

[hands11]

The Wiz win sapped the Cavs of their will to win. They just crash and burn from here on.

I see that didn't last too long

That was a joke, not a prediction. Maybe I need to put in [/jk] or something.

For the record, I expect the Cavs to win Wednesday (hopefully the Wizards give them a game). I expect the Cavs to get to the finals, though Orlando might give them some trouble (more so than Boston). I think they have more of a shot at the Lakers than they did at the Spurs a few years back, and probably take it to at least 6 games.

Also, after reading some of the reactions to the question "would you trade Butler for James" on here, I don't have anywhere near the dislike for Lebron (or even the Cavs) that most of the Wizboard has, though I enjoy and encourage poking fun at him. I'd be neutral for Cavs-Lakers.

Booooooooooo Hisssssssssssss

[JWizmentality]

The Wiz win sapped the Cavs of their will to win. They just crash and burn from here on.

I see that didn't last too long

That was a joke, not a prediction. Maybe I need to put in [/jk] or something.

For the record, I expect the Cavs to win Wednesday (hopefully the Wizards give them a game). I expect the Cavs to get to the finals, though Orlando might give them some trouble (more so than Boston). I think they have more of a shot at the Lakers than they did at the Spurs a few years back, and probably take it to at least 6 games.

Also, after reading some of the reactions to the question "would you trade Butler for James" on here, I don't have anywhere near the dislike for Lebron (or even the Cavs) that most of the Wizboard has, though I enjoy and encourage poking fun at him. I'd be neutral for Cavs-Lakers.

Ye should be taken into the streets naked and beaten with a broken tree branch. You have brought shame to the wizborad.

[doclinkin]

Also, after reading some of the reactions to the question "would you trade Butler for James" on here, I don't have anywhere near the dislike for Lebron (or even the Cavs) that most of the Wizboard has, though I enjoy and encourage poking fun at him. I'd be neutral for Cavs-Lakers.

Neutral for a contest between an unconvicted rapist and an overgrown lip-checking man-baby. Not saying I'd be rooting for injury, but if they could somehow both lose it wouldn't bother me a smidgen.

[BigA]

Also, after reading some of the reactions to the question "would you trade Butler for James" on here, I don't have anywhere near the dislike for Lebron (or even the Cavs) that most of the Wizboard has, though I enjoy and encourage poking fun at him. I'd be neutral for Cavs-Lakers.

Neutral for a contest between an unconvicted rapist and an overgrown lip-checking man-baby. Not saying I'd be rooting for injury, but if they could somehow both lose it wouldn't bother me a smidgen.

That's "overgrown, lip-checking, NAIL-BITING, man-baby" to you.

The thing that might tip it to the Cavs for me is that they don't have Damon Jones anymore. And a plus for the Lakers for me is that Bynum went to HS the next town over from where I grew up.

But, yes, I dislike Kobe more than I dislike Lebron, and it's not really close.

Chuckling at the shame I've brought down on the Wizboard.