The Official 2011 Cammo Mock Draft Thread

Krapinsky · Post #226 » by **Krapinsky** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:49 pm

I think you have Faried about 10 spots too high. I especially can't see a team out there that would take Faried over Leonard.

Kirsten19 · Post #227 » by **Kirsten19** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 2:46 am

No John Henson?

Even he's a legit 6'10", he only weights 210lb. But he's super athletic and long, i think he'll be a good partner of Greg Monroe in hte frontcourt

Post #228 » by **Curtis Lemansky** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 5:21 pm

Cammo, if you rank top-30 prospects by tiers; how would it look?

Krapinsky · Post #229 » by **Krapinsky** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 5:49 pm

Minor detail, but I don't think CJ Leslie would be in the draft if he is a second rounder.

Cammo101 · Post #230 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 9:14 pm

Krapinsky wrote:Minor detail, but I don't think CJ Leslie would be in the draft if he is a second rounder.

Word is he is leaving NC State regardless.

Cammo101 · Post #231 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 9:28 pm

Curtis Lemansky wrote:Cammo, if you rank top-30 prospects by tiers; how would it look?

This is a difficult draft to tier players, as there are no real locks anywhere in this draft. Here is how I would put it right this second...

Tier 1:

1. Derrick Williams (6'9'', PF, Arizona, Soph.)
2. Perry Jones (6'11'', PF, Baylor, Fresh.)
3. Kyrie Irving (6'2'', PG, Duke, Fresh.)
4. Terrence Jones (6'9'', SF, Kentucky, Fresh.)
5. Jared Sullinger (6'9'', PF, Ohio State, Fresh.)
6. Jonas Valanciunas (6'10'', C, Lithuania)

Tier 2:

7. Donatas Motiejunas (7'0'', PF, Lithuania)
8. Jan Vesely (6'11'', SF, Czech Republic)
9. Enes Kanter (6'10'', PF, Turkey)
10. Alec Burks (6'6'', SG, Colorado, Soph.)
11. Kemba Walker (6'0'', PG, UConn, Jr.)

Tier 3:

12. Brandon Knight (6'3'', PG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
13. Jordan Hamilton (6'7'', SF, Texas, Soph.)
14. Harrison Barnes (6'8'', SF, North Carolina, Fresh.)
15. Kawhi Leonard (6'7'', SF San Diego State, Soph.)
16. Tristan Thompson (6'9'', PF, Texas, Fresh.)

Tier 4:

17. Jimmer Fredette (6'2'', PG, BYU, Sr.)
18. Chris Singleton (6'8'', SF, Florida State, Jr.)
19. Kenneth Faried (6'8'', PF, Morehead State, Sr.)
20. Klay Thompson (6'6'', SG, Washington State, Jr.)
21. Kyle Singler (6'9'', SF, Duke, Sr.)

Tier 5:

22. Trey Thompkins (6'9'', PF, Georgia, Jr.)
23. Josh Selby (6'1'', PG, Kansas, Fresh.)
24. Marcus Morris (6'9'', PF, Kansas, Jr.)
25. Marshon Brooks (6'5'', SG, Providence, Sr.)
26. Nolan Smith (6'3'', SG, Duke, Sr.)
27. Jordan Williams (6'10'', C, Maryland, Soph.)
28. Lucas Nogueira (7'0'', C, Brazil)

Tier 6:

29. Keith Benson (6'11'', C, Oakland, Sr.)
30. E'Twaun Moore (6'4'', SG, Purdue, Sr.)

Post #232 » by **Ruzious** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 11:49 pm

I concur with that top tier - with the possible exception that I'd include Kanter in it. Honestly, I haven't seen enough of Kanter to have a strong opinion there.

Post #233 » by **Curtis Lemansky** » Wed Mar 2, 2011 10:59 pm

Thanks a lot.

By the way, has there ever been a non-freshman player who climbed up on your board within a season as much as Derrick Williams? Looking at your mock at page 5(from 2nd of November), he was projected at 40. That's quite a rise.

Cammo101 · Post #234 » by **Cammo101** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 7:42 pm

Curtis Lemansky wrote:Thanks a lot.

By the way, has there ever been a non-freshman player who climbed up on your board within a season as much as Derrick Williams? Looking at your mock at page 5(from 2nd of November), he was projected at 40. That's quite a rise.

No prob.

I'm not sure anyone has moved from the mid-second round to the #1 spot since I have been doing this. Though other players have made similar leaps. Brandon Roy made a similar run to the top a few years back.

Often times underclassmen are not in my 2nd round because they likely would just return to school. So it makes it hard to really tell how often guys really make giant moves up. I don't remember anyone but Roy making a big move into the top 5 though. It is one thing to move from the second round to the lotto, but another to actually get in the top 3-5. That is very tough because it is often athleticism based and rarely are guys that athletic in the second round of mocks for very long.

Kirsten19 · Post #235 » by **Kirsten19** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 10:35 pm

John Henson is missing in ur mock

and I think the 6'10", super athletic defensive specialist will be a "tier 2/3" player

Krapinsky · Post #236 » by **Krapinsky** » Thu Mar 3, 2011 10:59 pm

Kirsten19 wrote:John Henson is missing in ur mock

and I think the 6'10", super athletic defensive specialist will be a "tier 2/3" player

Agree, he seems like an arbitrary person to leave off compared to say Tristan Thompson or Kwahi Leonard.

Jeff Taylor too.

Cammo101 · Post #237 » by **Cammo101** » Sat Mar 5, 2011 10:49 pm

3/5/11

1. Cleveland - Derrick Williams (6'9'', PF, Arizona, Soph.)
2. Minnesota - Kyrie Irving (6'2'', PG, Duke, Fresh.)
3. Sacramento - Perry Jones (6'11'', PF, Baylor, Fresh.)
4. Washington - Jared Sullinger (6'9'', PF, Ohio State, Fresh.)
5. Toronto - Jonas Valanciunas (6'10'', C, Lithuania)
6. Utah - Harrison Barnes (6'8'', SF, North Carolina, Fresh.)
7. Cleveland - Kemba Walker (6'0'', PG, UConn, Jr.)
8. Detroit - Terrence Jones (6'9'', SF, Kentucky, Fresh.)
9. Milwaukee - Enes Kanter (6'10'', PF, Turkey)
10. Charlotte - Alec Burks (6'6'', SG, Colorado, Soph.)
11. Golden State - Jan Vesely (6'11'', SF, Czech Republic)
12. Indiana - John Henson (6'10'', PF, North Carolina, Soph.)
13. Houston - Donatas Motiejunas (7'0'', PF, Lithuania)
14. Philadelphia - Tristan Thompson (6'9'', PF, Texas, Fresh.)
15. Houston - Brandon Knight (6'3'', PG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
16. New York - Jordan Williams (6'10'', C, Maryland, Soph.)
17. Utah - Jimmer Fredette (6'2'', PG, BYU, Sr.)
18. Minnesota - Jordan Hamilton (6'7'', SF, Texas, Soph.)
19. Portland - Kawhi Leonard (6'7'', SF San Diego State, Soph.)
20. Denver - Chris Singleton (6'8'', SF, Florida State, Jr.)
21. Charlotte - Kenneth Faried (6'8'', PF, Morehead State, Sr.)
22. Washington - Kyle Singler (6'9'', SF, Duke, Sr.)
23. Phoenix - Trey Thompkins (6'9'', PF, Georgia, Jr.)
24. Oklahoma City - Josh Selby (6'1'', PG, Kansas, Fresh.)
25. New Jersey - Marcus Morris (6'9'', PF, Kansas, Jr.)
26. Chicago - Klay Thompson (6'6'', SG, Washington State, Jr.)
27. Dallas - Nikola Mirotic (6'10'', PF, Montenegro)
28. Toronto - Marshon Brooks (6'5'', SG, Providence, Sr.)
29. Boston - Markieff Morris (6'9'', PF, Kansas, Jr.)
30. San Antonio - Lucas Nogueira (7'0'', C, Brazil)

31. Cleveland - Jeffery Taylor (6'6'', SF, Vanderbilt, Jr.)
32. Miami - Nolan Smith (6'3'', SG, Duke, Sr.)
33. Washington - E'Twaun Moore (6'4'', SG, Purdue, Sr.)
34. Washington - Bojan Bogdanovic (6'7'', SF, Croatia)
35. Detroit - Keith Benson (6'11'', C, Oakland, Sr.)
36. Golden State - JaJuan Johnson (6'10'', PF, Purdue, Sr.)
37. Houston - CJ Leslie (6'8'', SF, North Carolina State, Fresh.)
38. LA Clippers - Malcolm Lee (6'5'', SG, UCLA, Jr.)
39. Sacramento - Norris Cole (6'2'', PG, Cleveland State, Sr.)
40. Charlotte - Jon Leuer (6'10'', PF, Wisconsin, Sr.)
41. Golden State - Pablo Aguilar (6'8'', PF, Spain)
42. Indiana - LaceDarius Dunn (6'4'', SG, Baylor, Sr.)
43. LA Clippers - Wesley Witherspoon (6'8'', SF, Memphis, Jr.)
44. New Orleans - Durrell Summers (6'5'', SG, Michigan State, Sr.)
45. Chicago - Rick Jackson (6'9'', PF, Syracuse, Sr.)
46. LA Lakers - Demetri McCamey (6'3'', PG, Illinois, Sr.)
47. Utah - Jeremy Tyler (6'10'', PF, USA)
48. Houston - Robin Benzing (6'10'', SF, Germany)
49. Denver - Justin Harper (6'10'', PF, Richmond, Sr.)
50. Portland - Matthew Bryan-Amaning (6'8'', PF, Washington, Sr.)
51. Philadelphia - Justin Hurtt (6'4'', SG, Tulsa, Sr.)
52. Atlanta - Lavoy Allen (6'9'', PF, Temple, Sr.)
53. Orlando - Cam Long (6'4'', SG, George Mason, Sr.)
54. Cleveland - David Lighty (6'6'', SG, Ohio State, Sr.)
55. LA Lakers - Chris Wright (6'7'', SF, Dayton, Sr.)
56. Milwaukee - Malcolm Delaney (6'3'', PG, Virginia Tech, Sr.)
57. Dallas - Ravern Johnson (6'7'', SF, Mississippi State, Sr.)
58. Boston - Chris Wright (6'1'', PG, Georgetown, Sr.)
59. LA Lakers - Will Coleman (6'9'', PF, Memphis, Sr.)
60. San Antonio - Brad Wanamaker (6'4'', PG, Pittsburgh, Sr.)

http://www.nbadraftguru.blogspot.com

princeofpalace · Post #238 » by **princeofpalace** » Sun Mar 6, 2011 1:52 pm

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FY1- Denvers 2nd rounder belongs to Detroit. I like this draft for Detroit, I do still see T. Jonas as a PF though and I like local guy Keith Benson as well. I havent seen Kanter play but if he looks good in workouts and his knee cheks out then I cant see Det passing on him, if not though T. Jones will be fine.

Post #239 » by **Ruzious** » Sun Mar 6, 2011 7:10 pm

Other than Kemba Walker being too high - not bad.

Kingsforlife · Post #240 » by **Kingsforlife** » Mon Mar 7, 2011 8:49 am

Kanter and Perry should swap places

teamjosh04 · Post #241 » by **teamjosh04** » Mon Mar 7, 2011 9:39 am

Jordan Williams doesnt warrant a pick that high.

NW7 · Post #242 » by **NW7** » Mon Mar 7, 2011 4:10 pm

Chicago has Toronto's late 1st round pick (originally belonging to Miami).

Kirsten19 · Post #243 » by **Kirsten19** » Tue Mar 8, 2011 2:16 am

Kingsforlife wrote:Kanter and Perry should swap places

I am VERY VERY sure Kanter will fall.

He hasn't played major/compeitive basketball for two years, thus he hasn't proven anything;

He also had some serious knee injuries, and if u can still remember how Dajuan Blair fell......i won't be surprised if he ends up being a mid 1st rounder.

Cammo101 · Post #244 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Mar 8, 2011 4:18 am

Kirsten19 wrote:
Kingsforlife wrote:Kanter and Perry should swap places

I am VERY VERY sure Kanter will fall.

He hasn't played major/compeitive basketball for two years, thus he hasn't proven anything;

He also had some serious knee injuries, and if u can still remember how Dajuan Blair fell......i won't be surprised if he ends up being a mid 1st rounder.

Pretty much agree. There are a lot of options at PF/C in this draft. He will need to work out well to stay in the lottery IMO.

peZt · Post #245 » by **peZt** » Tue Mar 8, 2011 2:56 pm

Kirsten19 wrote:
Kingsforlife wrote:Kanter and Perry should swap places

I am VERY VERY sure Kanter will fall.

He hasn't played major/compeitive basketball for two years, thus he hasn't proven anything;

He also had some serious knee injuries, and if u can still remember how Dajuan Blair fell......i won't be surprised if he ends up being a mid 1st rounder.

Yes Kanter had a knee injury but he only missed 3 or 4 months. And it was just 1 injury. Its not like he had these knee issues for years or something like that. So I don't really think that this knee "problem" will make him fall that much in the draft.