The Official 2011 Cammo Mock Draft Thread

Post #316 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:42 pm

Speaking of 4 year college players, one guy who you have as borderline draftable that I think will have a long Kurt Thomas type career is Rick Jackson. He may be a bit vertically challenged for a C, but he's a moose with surprisingly good all-around skills.

WillyJakkz · Post #317 » by **WillyJakkz** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:34 am

Cammo101 wrote:For the most part though, the draft is about finding stars, not finding nice role players. Every offseason, quality role players are available through free agency. The same can not be said for star players. If you do not draft a guy like LeBron or Dwight, it is almost impossible to get them. If you do not draft a guy like Shane Battier, you will have multiple chance to get him if you want him and there will no doubt be other similar players like him available.

This is why (rightly) GMs are trying to catch lightning in a bottle. Because lightning is what wins in the NBA. The first round is about finding future stars, the second round and free agency are about finding role players.

Let's be real, these teams that are "lotto bound" more than likely have been in that same draft position year after year and if they haven't drafted or found their "LeBron, Durant, or Dwight" then maybe it's time to draft guys who actually can play instead of looking to cultivate these underclassmen into "stars".

Jazzfan12 · Post #318 » by **Jazzfan12** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:56 am

WillyJakkz wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:For the most part though, the draft is about finding stars, not finding nice role players. Every offseason, quality role players are available through free agency. The same can not be said for star players. If you do not draft a guy like LeBron or Dwight, it is almost impossible to get them. If you do not draft a guy like Shane Battier, you will have multiple chance to get him if you want him and there will no doubt be other similar players like him available.

This is why (rightly) GMs are trying to catch lightning in a bottle. Because lightning is what wins in the NBA. The first round is about finding future stars, the second round and free agency are about finding role players.

Let's be real, these teams that are "lotto bound" more than likely have been in that same draft position year after year and if they haven't drafted or found their "LeBron, Durant, or Dwight" then maybe it's time to draft guys who actually can play instead of looking to cultivate these underclassmen into "stars".

None of the teams drafting in the lottery have really picked a super high upside guy in a while.

WillyJakkz · Post #319 » by **WillyJakkz** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:15 am

Jazzfan12 wrote:
WillyJakkz wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:For the most part though, the draft is about finding stars, not finding nice role players. Every offseason, quality role players are available through free agency. The same can not be said for star players. If you do not draft a guy like LeBron or Dwight, it is almost impossible to get them. If you do not draft a guy like Shane Battier, you will have multiple chance to get him if you want him and there will no doubt be other similar players like him available.

This is why (rightly) GMs are trying to catch lightning in a bottle. Because lightning is what wins in the NBA. The first round is about finding future stars, the second round and free agency are about finding role players.

Let's be real, these teams that are "lotto bound" more than likely have been in that same draft position year after year and if they haven't drafted or found their "LeBron, Durant, or Dwight" then maybe it's time to draft guys who actually can play instead of looking to cultivate these underclassmen into "stars".

None of the teams drafting in the lottery have really picked a super high upside guy in a while.

That's my point pretty much.

LeBron, Durant, Dwight don't come around often but solid players are in the draft constantly or sometimes teams just draft terrible but the point is teams can't keep drafting BPA hoping they land "The One" and since Jet Li doesn't ball, these teams need to start drafting around what they do have.

Cammo101 · Post #320 » by **Cammo101** » Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:01 pm

3/25/11 (2012 Big Board)

1. Austin Rivers (6'4'', SG, High School)
2. Quincey Miller (6'9'', PF, High School)
3. Anthony Davis (6'9'', SF, High School)
4. Tristan Thompson (6'9'', PF, Texas, Fresh.)
5. James McAdoo (6'8'', PF, High School)
6. Michael Gilchrist (6'6'', SF, High School)
7. Tyler Honeycutt (6'8'', SF, UCLA, Soph.)
8. Jeremy Lamb (6'5'', SG, UConn, Fresh.)
9. Jereme Richmond (6'7'', SF, Illinois, Fresh.)
10. Marquise Teague (6'2'', PF, High School)
11. Tony Mitchell (6'8'', SF, Missouri, Fresh.)
12. Patric Young (6'9'', PF, Florida, Fresh.)
13. Rakeem Christmas (6'9'', PF, High School)
14. Terrence Ross (6'6'', SG, Washington, Fresh.)
15. Khris Middleton (6'7'', SF, Texas A&M, Soph.)
16. Doron Lamb (6'5'', SG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
17. CJ Leslie (6'8'', SF, North Carolina State, Fresh.)
18. Myck Kabongo (6'1'', PG, High School)
19. Kentavious Caldwell (6'6'', SG, High School)
20. Kendall Marshall (6'3'', PG, North Carolina, Fresh.)
21. Kris Joseph (6'7'', SF, Syracuse, Jr.)
22. LeBryan Nash (6'7'', SF, High School)
23. Klay Thompson (6'6'', SG, Washington State, Jr.)
24. Cory Joseph (6'3'', PG, Texas, Fresh.)
25. Darius Morris (6'4'', PF, Michigan, Soph.)
26. Augusto Cesar Lima (6'10'', PF, Brazil)
27. Bradley Beal (6'3'', SG, High School)
28. Ray McCallum (6'1'', PG, Detroit, Fresh.)
29. Maalik Wayns (6'1'', PG, Villanova, Soph.)
30. Shelvin Mack (6'2'', PG, Butler, Jr.)
31. William Buford (6'5'', SG, Ohio State, Jr.)
32. Will Barton (6'6'', SG, Memphis, Fresh.)
33. Mason Plumlee (6'11'', PF, Duke, Soph.)
34. Josh Selby (6'1'', SG, Kansas, Fresh.)
35. Reggie Jackson (6'3'', SG, Boston College, Jr.)
36. Evan Fournier (6'6'', SG, France)
37. Rodney Williams (6'7'', SG, Minnesota, Soph.)
38. Rudy Gobert (6'10'', PF, France)
39. Festus Ezeli (6'11'', C, Vanderbilt, Jr.)
40. Reggie Bullock (6'5'', SG, North Carolina, Fresh.)
41. Travis Leslie (6'4'', SG, Georgia, Jr.)
42. Elias Harris (6'8'', SF, Gonzaga, Soph.)
43. Dejan Musli (7'0'', C, Serbia)
44. Scottie Hopson (6'7'', SF, Tennessee, Jr.)
45. Dee Bost (6'2'', PG, Mississippi State, Jr.)
46. Mouphtaou Yarou (6'9'', PF, Villanova, Soph.)
47. Aaric Murray (6'10'', C, La Salle, Soph.)
48. Arnett Moultrie (6'11'', PF, Mississippi State, Soph.)
49. Thomas Robinson (6'8'', PF, Kansas, Soph.)
50. JaMychal Green (6'8'', PF, Alabama, Jr.)
51. Ashton Gibbs (6'2'', PG, Pittsburgh, Jr.)
52. Joffrey Lauvergne (6'10'', PF, France)
53. Durand Scott (6'3'', SG, Miami, Soph.)
54. Tu Holloway (6'0'', PG, Xavier, Jr.)
55. Jordan Taylor (6'1'', PG, Wisconsin, Jr.)
56. Wesley Witherspoon (6'7'', SF, Memphis, Jr.)
57. Willie Reed (6'9'', PF, Kansas State, Jr.)
58. Isaiah Thomas (5'10'', PG, Washington, Jr.)www.realgm.com
59. Christian Watford (6'8'', PF, Indiana, Soph.)
60. Bernard James (6'10'', PF, Florida State, Jr.)

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re49gb_2gho32fp · Post #321 » by **re49gb_2gho32fp** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:34 pm

Finding it remarkable only a mere three centers are listed. On top, theres one international and the first one taken is at position 39.

Thats just seems unlikely.

brassviews · Post #322 » by **brassviews** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:41 pm

Valanciunas will be on that list as I don't think he'll declare. He may actually wait until 2013 or 2014 before he considers NBA.

Philipp Neumann, a center, could be another interesting prospect. He's a definite project, one who could succeed or fail. Nonetheless, he's a player to look out for.

And of course, there's Lucas Nogueira. He may or may not declare for this year's draft. His decision is not dependent on lockout.

teamjosh04 · Post #323 » by **teamjosh04** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:17 pm

How is Thomas Robinson so low?

Cammo101 · Post #324 » by **Cammo101** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:20 pm

shaolin wrote:Finding it remarkable only a mere three centers are listed. On top, theres one international and the first one taken is at position 39.

Thats just seems unlikely.

It is pretty unlikely all the Euros in my 2011 mock will actually declare. Those who do not, will show up on here and even it out more.

djthesonicsfan · Post #325 » by **djthesonicsfan** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:45 pm

Please coordinate with all the other teams so no one drafts Chris Singleton before it's our turn at the podium.

Cammo101 · Post #326 » by **Cammo101** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:25 pm

djthesonicsfan wrote:Please coordinate with all the other teams so no one drafts Chris Singleton before it's our turn at the podium.

I'm not sure I have this much sway, but I'll see what I can do. :lol:

Casperkid23 · Post #327 » by **Casperkid23** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:06 pm

shaolin wrote:Finding it remarkable only a mere three centers are listed. On top, theres one international and the first one taken is at position 39.

Thats just seems unlikely.

I wouldn't really pay attention to his rankings.

Cammo101 · Post #328 » by **Cammo101** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:26 pm

Casperkid23 wrote:
shaolin wrote:Finding it remarkable only a mere three centers are listed. On top, theres one international and the first one taken is at position 39.

Thats just seems unlikely.

I wouldn't really pay attention to his rankings.

I just throw the darts at the wall, whether they hit a center or a small forward is in god's hands.

crazybranman360 · Post #329 » by **crazybranman360** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:24 pm

1. Cavs- Harrison Barnes
2. T-Wolves- Kyrie Irving
3. Wizards- Derrick Willimas
4. Raptors- Enes Cantor
5. Kings- Terrence Jones
6. Jazz- Jonas Valciounas
7. Pistons- Kemba Walker
8. Cavs- Brandon Knight
9. Bucks- Perry Jones
10. Bobcats- Kawhi Leonard
11. Warriors- John Henson
12. Jazz- Jordan Hamilton
13. Suns- Jan Vesely
14. Rockets- Jimmer Ferdette

Cammo101 · Post #330 » by **Cammo101** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 12:14 am

3/27/11 (Final 4 Edition)

1. Cleveland - Derrick Williams (6'9'', PF, Arizona, Soph.)
2. Minnesota - Kyrie Irving (6'2'', PG, Duke, Fresh.)
3. Washington - Harrison Barnes (6'8'', SF, North Carolina, Fresh.)
4. Sacramento - Enes Kanter (6'11'', PF, Turkey)
5. Toronto - Jonas Valanciunas (6'10'', C, Lithuania)
6. Utah - Perry Jones (6'11'', PF, Baylor, Fresh.)
7. Detroit - Kemba Walker (6'0'', PG, UConn, Jr.)
8. Cleveland - Brandon Knight (6'3'', PG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
9. Charlotte - Jan Vesely (6'11'', SF, Czech Republic)
10. Milwaukee - Donatas Motiejunas (7'0'', PF, Lithuania)
11. Golden State - Terrence Jones (6'9'', SF, Kentucky, Fresh.)
12. Indiana - Alec Burks (6'6'', SG, Colorado, Soph.)
13. New York - John Henson (6'10'', PF, North Carolina, Soph.)
14. Utah - Jimmer Fredette (6'2'', PG, BYU, Sr.)
15. Houston - Tristan Thompson (6'9'', PF, Texas, Fresh.)
16. Philadelphia - Marcus Morris (6'9'', PF, Kansas, Jr.)
17. Houston - Kawhi Leonard (6'7'', SF San Diego State, Soph.)
18. Minnesota - Jordan Hamilton (6'7'', SF, Texas, Soph.)
19. Washington - Kenneth Faried (6'8'', PF, Morehead State, Sr.)
20. Charlotte - Tyler Zeller (6'11'', C, North Carolina, Jr.)
21. Portland - Justin Harper (6'10'', PF, Richmond, Sr.)
22. Denver - Bismack Biyombo (6'9'', PF, Congo)
23. Phoenix - Nikola Vucevic (6'10'', PF, USC, Jr.)
24. Oklahoma City - Chris Singleton (6'8'', SF, Florida State, Jr.)
25. Chicago - Markieff Morris (6'9'', PF, Kansas, Jr.)
26. Dallas - Jordan Williams (6'10'', C, Maryland, Soph.)
27. Boston - Lucas Nogueira (7'0'', C, Brazil)
28. New Jersey - Tobias Harris (6'8'', SF, Tennessee, Fresh.)
29. Chicago - Kyle Singler (6'9'', SF, Duke, Sr.)
30. San Antonio - Nikola Mirotic (6'10'', PF, Montenegro)

31. Cleveland - Trey Thompkins (6'9'', PF, Georgia, Jr.)
32. Miami - Nolan Smith (6'3'', SG, Duke, Sr.)
33. Washington - Jeremy Tyler (6'10'', PF, USA)
34. Washington - Marshon Brooks (6'5'', SG, Providence, Sr.)
35. Detroit - Keith Benson (6'11'', C, Oakland, Sr.)
36. Golden State - JaJuan Johnson (6'10'', PF, Purdue, Sr.)
37. LA Clippers - Jeffery Taylor (6'6'', SF, Vanderbilt, Jr.)
38. Houston - Darius Morris (6'4'', PG, Michigan, Soph.)
39. Charlotte - Scottie Hopson (6'7'', SF, Tennessee, Jr.)
40. Sacramento - Malcolm Lee (6'5'', SG, UCLA, Jr.)
41. Golden State - Furkan Aldemir (6'9'', PF, Turkey)
42. Indiana - Greg Smith (6'10'', C, Fresno State, Soph.)
43. LA Lakers - E'Twaun Moore (6'4'', SG, Purdue, Sr.)
44. Utah - Bojan Bogdanovic (6'7'', SF, Croatia)
45. Chicago - LaceDarius Dunn (6'4'', SG, Baylor, Sr.)
46. New Orleans - Rick Jackson (6'9'', PF, Syracuse, Sr.)
47. LA Clippers - Jon Leuer (6'10'', PF, Wisconsin, Sr.)
48. Houston - Pablo Aguilar (6'8'', PF, Spain)
49. Atlanta - Matthew Bryan-Amaning (6'8'', PF, Washington, Sr.)
50. Philadelphia - Robin Benzing (6'9'', SF, Germany)
51. Denver - Austin Freeman (6'4'', SG, Georgetown, Sr.)
52. Portland - Norris Cole (6'2'', PG, Cleveland State, Sr.)
53. Orlando - Cam Long (6'4'', SG, George Mason, Sr.)
54. Cleveland - Ben Hansbrough (6'3'', SG, Notre Dame, Sr.)
55. LA Lakers - Demetri McCamey (6'3'', PG, Illinois, Sr.)
56. Dallas - Justin Hurtt (6'4'', SG, Tulsa, Sr.)
57. Boston - Chandler Parsons (6'10'', SF, Florida, Sr.)
58. LA Lakers - Jacob Pullen (6'1'', PG, Kansas State, Sr.)
59. Milwaukee - Durrell Summers (6'5'', SG, Michigan State, Sr.)
60. San Antonio - Malcolm Delaney (6'3'', PG, Virginia Tech, Sr.)

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MYoung23 · Post #331 » by **MYoung23** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:22 pm

Mark it down. The Cavaliers are not passing on Kyrie Irving.

Jazzfan12 · Post #332 » by **Jazzfan12** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:41 pm

Not sure at all about Jazz picking Jones, team already has enough attitude and PFs and traded away Deron because of his attitude...

babyjax13 · Post #333 » by **babyjax13** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:20 am

I think that the Jazz will stay away from Jones, but I would love to see it happen.

Cammo101 · Post #334 » by **Cammo101** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:11 pm

3/31/11

1. Cleveland - Derrick Williams (6'9'', PF, Arizona, Soph.)
2. Minnesota - Kyrie Irving (6'2'', PG, Duke, Fresh.)
3. Washington - Harrison Barnes (6'8'', SF, North Carolina, Fresh.)
4. Toronto - Enes Kanter (6'11'', PF, Turkey)
5. Sacramento - Jan Vesely (6'11'', SF, Czech Republic)
6. Utah - Jonas Valanciunas (6'10'', C, Lithuania)
7. Detroit - Perry Jones (6'11'', PF, Baylor, Fresh.)
8. Cleveland - Brandon Knight (6'3'', PG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
9. Milwaukee - Alec Burks (6'6'', SG, Colorado, Soph.)
10. Charlotte - Donatas Motiejunas (7'0'', PF, Lithuania)
11. Golden State - John Henson (6'10'', PF, North Carolina, Soph.)
12. Utah - Kemba Walker (6'0'', PG, UConn, Jr.)
13. Phoenix - Terrence Jones (6'9'', SF, Kentucky, Fresh.)
14. Houston - Kawhi Leonard (6'7'', SF San Diego State, Soph.)
15. Indiana - Jimmer Fredette (6'2'', PG, BYU, Sr.)
16. New York - Marcus Morris (6'9'', PF, Kansas, Jr.)
17. Philadelphia - Tristan Thompson (6'9'', PF, Texas, Fresh.)
18. Minnesota - Jordan Hamilton (6'7'', SF, Texas, Soph.)
19. Washington - Kenneth Faried (6'8'', PF, Morehead State, Sr.)
20. New Orleans - Tyler Zeller (6'11'', C, North Carolina, Jr.)
21. Portland - Bismack Biyombo (6'9'', PF, Congo)
22. Denver - Chris Singleton (6'8'', SF, Florida State, Jr.)
23. Phoenix - Tyler Honeycutt (6'8'', SF, UCLA, Soph.)
24. Oklahoma City - Justin Harper (6'10'', PF, Richmond, Sr.)
25. Chicago - Jordan Williams (6'10'', C, Maryland, Soph.)
26. Boston - Markieff Morris (6'9'', PF, Kansas, Jr.)
27. Dallas - Nikola Mirotic (6'10'', PF, Montenegro)
28. New Jersey - Tobias Harris (6'8'', SF, Tennessee, Fresh.)
29. Chicago - Kyle Singler (6'9'', SF, Duke, Sr.)
30. San Antonio - Lucas Nogueira (7'0'', C, Brazil)

31. Cleveland - Jeremy Tyler (6'10'', PF, USA)
32. Miami - Nolan Smith (6'3'', SG, Duke, Sr.)
33. Washington - Marshon Brooks (6'5'', SG, Providence, Sr.)
34. Detroit - Trey Thompkins (6'9'', PF, Georgia, Jr.)
35. Sacramento - Reggie Jackson (6'3'', SG, Boston College, Jr.)
36. New Jersey - Nikola Vucevic (6'10'', PF, USC, Jr.)
37. LA Clippers - JaJuan Johnson (6'10'', PF, Purdue, Sr.)
38. Houston - Keith Benson (6'11'', C, Oakland, Sr.)
39. Milwaukee - Furkan Aldemir (6'9'', PF, Turkey)
40. Philadelphia - Malcolm Lee (6'5'', SG, UCLA, Jr.)
41. LA Lakers - Darius Morris (6'4'', PG, Michigan, Soph.)
42. Golden State - Jeffery Taylor (6'6'', SF, Vanderbilt, Jr.)
43. Chicago - Scottie Hopson (6'7'', SF, Tennessee, Jr.)
44. LA Clippers - Bojan Bogdanovic (6'7'', SF, Croatia)
45. Indiana - Greg Smith (6'10'', C, Fresno State, Soph.)
46. LA Lakers - Norris Cole (6'2'', PG, Cleveland State, Sr.)
47. Charlotte - E'Twaun Moore (6'4'', SG, Purdue, Sr.)
48. Memphis - Jon Leuer (6'10'', PF, Wisconsin, Sr.)
49. Atlanta - Matthew Bryan-Amaning (6'8'', PF, Washington, Sr.)
50. New Orleans - LaceDarius Dunn (6'4'', SG, Baylor, Sr.)
51. Detroit - Chandler Parsons (6'10'', SF, Florida, Sr.)
52. Portland - Jacob Pullen (6'1'', PG, Kansas State, Sr.)
53. Orlando - Rick Jackson (6'9'', PF, Syracuse, Sr.)
54. Cleveland - Austin Freeman (6'4'', SG, Georgetown, Sr.)
55. LA Lakers - Pablo Aguilar (6'8'', PF, Spain)
56. Boston - Robin Benzing (6'9'', SF, Germany)
57. Dallas - Cam Long (6'4'', SG, George Mason, Sr.)
58. LA Lakers - Demetri McCamey (6'3'', PG, Illinois, Sr.)
59. Sacramento - Malcolm Delaney (6'3'', PG, Virginia Tech, Sr.)
60. San Antonio - Durrell Summers (6'5'', SG, Michigan State, Sr.)

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RTM · Post #335 » by **RTM** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:21 pm

Jones, while supremely talented, really is a bad fit in Detroit both skill-wise and personality-wise.

In the scenario you present, I bet Duamrs would opt to take Knight.

I like the Thompkins pick in the 2nd though.

You still have Durrell Summers barely hanging in there. As an MSU fan, I can say with a fair degree of certainty that unless he blows everyone away in workouts (I mean really WOW them), he won't sniff the draft. He was abysmal this year.