Dr Positivity mock 06/26/13 - Full mock w/ explanations ed.

Dr Positivity · Post #81 » by **Dr Positivity** » Fri Mar 1, 2013 6:22 pm

03/01/13

1. Phoenix Suns - SG Ben McLemore
2. Sacramento Kings - PG Marcus Smart
3. Charlotte Bobcats - PF Nerlens Noel
4. Orlando Magic - SG Victor Oladipo
5. Washington Wizards - SF Otto Porter
6. New Orleans Hornets - C Cody Zeller
7. Cleveland Cavaliers - C Willie Cauley-Stein
8. Minnesota Timberwolves - SG CJ McCollum
9. Detroit Pistons - SG Archie Goodwin
10. Philadelphia 76ers - C Alex Len
11. Oklahoma City Thunder (via Toronto) - PF Anthony Bennett
12. Dallas Mavericks - C Steven Adams
13. Charlotte Bobcats (via Portland) - SG Allen Crabbe
14. Phoenix Suns (via LA Lakers) - SG/SF Shabazz Muhammad
15. Milwaukee Bucks - SF Le'Bryan Nash
16. Atlanta Hawks (via Houston) - PG Michael Carter-Williams
17. Boston Celtics - PF CJ Leslie
18. Utah Jazz - PG Trey Burke
19. Utah Jazz (from Golden State) - C Jeff Withey
20. Chicago Bulls - PF/C Isaiah Austin
21. Brookln Nets - PF/C Kelly Olynyk
22. Atlanta Hawks - SF Sergey Karasev
23. Indiana Pacers - SF Alex Poythress
24. Denver Nuggets - C Rudy Gobert
25. New York Knicks - PF James Michael McAdoo
26. Minnesota Timberwolves (from Memphis) - SG/SF Reggie Bullock
27. LA Clippers - SG/SF Jamaal Franklin
28. Oklahoma City Thunder - SF Adetokunbo Giannis
29. Miami Heat - PF Mason Plumlee
30. San Antonio Spurs - PG Phil Pressey

M-C-G · Post #82 » by **M-C-G** » Fri Mar 1, 2013 6:27 pm

What is the scouting report on Nash? I thought he was a pretty ho hum prospect, but don't know him well. Bucks need (and have a history of) taking high ceiling guys, since we need a SF, I think I would like Poythress or Giannis a bit more.

This assumes that we retain Redick

Dr Positivity · Post #83 » by **Dr Positivity** » Fri Mar 1, 2013 7:38 pm

Nash is that type of high upside/risky pick, as he has great physical tools (size/speed) for a SF and flashes of greatness in his skill game (post play) but has been as enigmatic as anyone production wise in college

Gilles · Post #84 » by **Gilles** » Sat Mar 2, 2013 8:48 am

Nash's production stayed the same at relatively low level. Sure his efficiency rose to passable, but that's mostly due to cutting threes by third and having defense attention shift to Marcus Smart. He looks athletic because he's pretty big, fast and long but he's not quick or agile and his handles are average at best. Don't think his raw post game translates into pros.

GreenRiddler · Post #85 » by **GreenRiddler** » Sun Mar 3, 2013 6:27 am

Why so low on Shabazz and where is Cladwell-pope?

BossHoggin · Post #86 » by **BossHoggin** » Sun Mar 3, 2013 7:58 am

The Cavs are not taking Plumlee

Dr Positivity · Post #87 » by **Dr Positivity** » Fri Mar 8, 2013 7:35 am

03/08/13

1. Orlando Magic - PG Marcus Smart
2. Detroit Pistons - SG Ben McLemore
3. Charlotte Bobcats - PF Nerlens Noel
4. Washington Wizards - SF Otto Porter
5. Sacramento Kings - SG Victor Oladipo
6. New Orleans Hornets - C Cody Zeller
7. Cleveland Cavaliers - C Willie Cauley-Stein
8. Phoenix Suns - C Alex Len
9. Minnesota Timberwolves - PG/SG CJ McCollum
10. Philadelphia 76ers - PF Anthony Bennett
11. Oklahoma City Thunder - C Steven Adams
12. Dallas Mavericks - SG Archie Goodwin
13. Charlotte Bobcats - SG Allen Crabbe
14. Phoenix Suns - SF Shabazz Muhammad
15. Milwaukee Bucks - SF Le'Bryan Nash
16. Utah Jazz - PG Trey Burke
17. Atlanta Hawks (from Houston) - C Jeff Withey
18. Boston Celtics - PF CJ Leslie
19. Chicago Bulls - PF/C Kelly Olynyk
20. Utah Jazz (from Golden State) - SF Sergey Karasev
21. Atlanta Hawks - PG Michael Carter-Williams
22. Brooklyn Nets - PF Isaiah Austin
23. Indiana Pacers - SF/PF Alex Poythress
24. New York Knicks - SG/SF Reggie Bullock
25. Denver Nuggets - C Rudy Gobert
26. Minnesota Timberwolves (from Memphis) - SG/SF Jamaal Franklin
27. Los Angeles Clippers - PF James Michael McAdoo
28. Oklahoma City Thunder - SF Adetokunbo Giannis
29. Miami Heat - PF Mason Plumlee
30. San Antonio Spurs - PG Phil Pressey

BossHoggin · Post #88 » by **BossHoggin** » Fri Mar 8, 2013 9:11 am

Eventually you're going to figure out that Miami has no first this year

Dr Positivity · Post #89 » by **Dr Positivity** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:22 am

Big Board

1. Anthony Bennett
2. Victor Oladipo
3. Marcus Smart
4. Cody Zeller
5. Kelly Olynyk
6. Alex Len
7. Ben McLemore
8. CJ McCollum
9. Jeff Withey
10. Rudy Gobert
11. Le'Bryan Nash
12. CJ Leslie
13. Trey Burke
14. Isaiah Austin

Dr Positivity · Post #90 » by **Dr Positivity** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:12 pm

03/14/13:

1. Washington Wizards - PF Nerlens Noel
2. Orlando Magic - PG Marcus Smart
3. Charlotte Bobcats - SG Victor Oladipo
4. Phoenix Suns - SG Ben McLemore
5. New Orleans Hornets - SF Otto Porter
6. Detroit Pistons - SG Archie Goodwin
7. Cleveland Cavaliers - C Willie Cauley-Stein
8. Sacramento Kings - PF/C Cody Zeller
9. Minnesota Timberwolves - SG/SF Shabazz Muhammad
10. Philadelphia 76ers - PF Anthony Bennett
11. Oklahoma City Thunder (from Toronto) - C Alex Len
12. Portland Trailblazers - PF/C Kelly Olynyk
13. Dallas Mavericks - PG Myck Kabongo
14. Utah Jazz - PG/SG CJ McCollum
15. Milwaukee Bucks - SF Le'Bryan Nash
16. Cleveland Cavaliers (from LA Lakers) - PG/SG Michael Carter-Williams
17. Atlanta Hawks (from Houston) - PG Trey Burke
18. Boston Celtics - PF/C Isaiah Austin
19. Atlanta Hawks - C Jeff Withey
20. Chicago Bulls - PF CJ Leslie
21. Utah Jazz (from Golden State Warriors) - SF Sergey Karasev
22. Brooklyn Nets - PF Mason Plumlee
23. New York Knicks - C Rudy Gobert
25. Denver Nuggets - PF James Michael McAdoo
26. LA Clippers - SG/SF Reggie Bullock
27. Minnesota Timberwolves (from Memphis) - SG Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
28. Oklahoma City Thunder - SF Adetokunbo Giannis
29. San Antonio Spurs - PF Doug McDermott
30. Phoenix Suns (from Cleveland via Miami) - SG/SF Jamaal Franklin

dorkestra · Post #91 » by **dorkestra** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:38 pm

something i've found interesting: archie goodwin is all over people's boards. i've seen him as high as six (here) and as low as 28-30 in other mocks. wonder where he'll end up.

Dr Positivity · Post #92 » by **Dr Positivity** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:41 am

Yeah he's getting pushed on both sides, on one hand the combine and workout stage overwhelmingly favors the athletic freaks, especially when they have high motors. OTOH prospects who miss the tournament or are on underwhelming bubble teams usually don't do well, I'd argue Alec Burks and Jeremy Lamb's lack of team success or the national buzz that comes with it was the main reason they didn't get top 6-7 in their years

I'd have Goodwin outside of the top 10 for most teams atm but Detroit is unique in that they can't take Bennett, Len, or Zeller so that leaves them a lot less options in the 6-10 if those guys are there and I'm selling the Shabazz stock for his draft position, I think his lack of elite athleticism and being projected as an undersized SF instead of a big 2, will hurt him a lot

PhilasFinest · Post #93 » by **PhilasFinest** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 3:10 pm

dorkestra wrote:something i've found interesting: archie goodwin is all over people's boards. i've seen him as high as six (here) and as low as 28-30 in other mocks. wonder where he'll end up.

Goodwin has great size and atheltic ability for an nba swing.
He will likely test well and pass the eye test.

If he can show improved ball handling and shooting in his workouts, he could easily be a top 10 pick

[RCG] · Post #94 » by **[RCG]** » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:08 pm

PhilasFinest wrote:
dorkestra wrote:something i've found interesting: archie goodwin is all over people's boards. i've seen him as high as six (here) and as low as 28-30 in other mocks. wonder where he'll end up.

Goodwin has great size and atheltic ability for an nba swing.
He will likely test well and pass the eye test.

If he can show improved ball handling and shooting in his workouts, he could easily be a top 10 pick

If he can wow in workouts he might be able to slip into the lottery. Truth is he hasn't been productive.

PhilasFinest · Post #95 » by **PhilasFinest** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:52 am

[RCG] wrote:
PhilasFinest wrote:
dorkestra wrote:something i've found interesting: archie goodwin is all over people's boards. i've seen him as high as six (here) and as low as 28-30 in other mocks. wonder where he'll end up.

Goodwin has great size and atheltic ability for an nba swing.
He will likely test well and pass the eye test.

If he can show improved ball handling and shooting in his workouts, he could easily be a top 10 pick

If he can wow in workouts he might be able to slip into the lottery. Truth is he hasn't been productive.

O I know he hasn't been productive. Just saying production doesn't always mean everything during the draft process.
With a pretty big class vim g in next year, he could be hard pressed to make the jump in a weaker draft this year.

He's the type of player that shoot up the board just based off athletic testing and workouts. There's always the athletic wing that suddenly shows a vastly improved jumper in workouts and shoots up the board.

Post #96 » by **Gremz** » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:06 am

Excluding Indiana is just mean imo.

djthesonicsfan · Post #97 » by **djthesonicsfan** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:57 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:03/14/13:
11. Oklahoma City Thunder (from Toronto) - C Alex Len

Len would be a solid pick for us.

Do you think there are teams that would be interested in our #28 & #31 picks? Perhaps bundled with our #11 pick?

Roger Murdock · Post #98 » by **Roger Murdock** » Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:32 pm

If the Cavs took like the 5th best center and 5th best player on Kentuckys bad team this year in the top 10 I would throw up.

Dr Positivity · Post #99 » by **Dr Positivity** » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:49 pm

03/26/13

1. Orlando Magic - PG Marcus Smart
2. New Orleans Hornets - SG Victor Oladipo
3. Sacramento Kings - PF Nerlens Noel
4. Charlotte Bobcats - SG Ben McLemore
5. Cleveland Cavaliers - SF Otto Porter
6. Phoenix Suns - PF Anthony Bennett
7. Detroit Pistons - SG Archie Goodwin
8. Minnesota Timberwolves - SG/SF Shabazz Muhammad
9. Washington Wizards - C Alex Len
10. Oklahoma City Thunder (via Toronto) - C Cody Zeller
11. Philadelphia 76ers - PF/C Kelly Olynyk
12. Portland Trailblazers - PF/C Gorgui Dieng
13. Dallas Mavericks - PG Trey Burke
14. Utah Jazz - PG/SG CJ McCollum
15. Milwaukee Bucks - SF Le'Bryan Nash
16. Cleveland Cavaliers (from LA Lakers) - C Willie Cauley-Stein
17. Boston Celtics - PF/C Isaiah Austin
18. Atlanta Hawks - PG Michael Carter-Williams
19. Chicago Bulls - C Jeff Withey
20. Atlanta Hawks (from Houston) - PF CJ Leslie
21. Utah Jazz (from Golden State) - SF Sergey Karasev
22. Brooklyn Nets - SG/SF Jamaal Franklin
23. New York Knicks - PG Myck Kabongo
24. Indiana Pacers - SG/SF Reggie Bullock
25. MInnesota Timberwolves (from Memphis) - SG/SF Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
26. Denver Nuggets - PF James Michael McAdoo
27. Los Angeles Clippers - PF Mason Plumlee
28. Oklahoma City Thunder - C Rudy Gobert
29. San Antonio Spurs - PF Doug McDermott
30. Phoenix Suns (from Cleveland via Miami) - SG/SF Allen Crabbe

Post #100 » by **B Mac** » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:20 am

Fantastic draft for the Cavaliers.