2014 Mock Draft: Countdown to Ecstasy

[Vindicater]

If Gary Harris is there at #13 then the Wolves will nab him.

[Cammo101]

Like a third of your second round is going back to school most likely. And if Hollis-Jefferson declared, he would be more likely to be a lotto pick than a second rounder.

[RSCD3_]

1 - Milwaukee - Joel Embiid - C - Kansas
2 - Philadelphia - Andrew Wiggins - SG/SF - Kansas
3 - Orlando - Jabari Parker - F - Duke
4 - Boston - Dante Exum - G - Australia
5 - Utah - Julius Randle - PF - Kentucky
6 - LA Lakers - Noah Vonleh - PF - Indiana
7 - Sacramento - Aaron Gordon - PF - Arizona
8 - Detroit - Marcus Smart - G - Oklahoma St.
9 - Cleveland - Jusuf Nurkic - C - Bosnia & Herzegovina
10 - Philadelphia (via New Orleans) - James Young - SG/SF - Kentucky
11 - Denver (via New York) - Nik Stauskas - SG - Michigan
12 - Orlando (via Denver) - Tyler Ennis - PG - Syracuse
13 - Minnesota - Dario Saric - F - Croatia
14 - Memphis - Kyle Anderson - F - UCLA
15 - Atlanta - Gary Harris - SG - Michigan State
16 - Chicago (via Charlotte) - K. J. McDaniels - SG/SF - Clemson
17 - Phoenix (via Washington) - Doug McDermott - F - Creighton
18 - Boston (via Brooklyn) - T. J. Warren - SF - NC State
19 - Chicago - Willie Cauley-Stein - C - Kentucky
20 - Toronto - Clint Capela - PF - Switzerland
21 - Phoenix - Adreian Payne - PF - Michigan State
22 - Oklahoma City via Dallas - Elfrid Payton - PG - Louisiana - Lafayette
23 - Utah (via Golden State) - Jerami Grant - F - Syracuse
24 - Charlotte (via Portland) - PJ Hairston - SG - North Carolina
25 - Houston - Shabazz Napier - G - UCONN
26 - Phoenix (via Indiana) - Zach LaVine - G - UCLA
27 - Miami - Rodney Hood - SG/SF - Duke
28 - LA Clippers - Montrezl Harrell - PF - Louisville
29 - Oklahoma City - Glenn Robinson III - SG/SF - Michigan
30 - San Antonio - Bogdan Bogdanovic - SG - Serbia
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31 - Milwaukee - Semaj Christon - PG - Xavier
32 - Philadelphia - Rondae Hollis-Jefferson - SF - Arizona
33 - Cleveland (via Orlando) - Mario Hezonja - SG/SF - Croatia
34 - Dallas (via Boston) - Cleanthony Early - F - Wichita State
35 - Utah - Vasilje Micic - PG - Serbia
36 - Milwaukee (via LA Lakers) - Jordan Adams - SG/SF - UCLA
37 - Toronto (via Sacramento) - Jordan Clarkson - PG - Missouri
38 - Detroit - Alex Poythress - F - Kentucky
39 - Philadelphia (via Cleveland) - Chris Walker - PF - Florida
40 - Minnesota (via New Orleans) - Wayne Selden - SG - Kansas
41 - Houston (via New York) - Aaron Harrison - SG - Kentucky
42 - Denver - Deonte Burton - PG - Nevada
43 - Atlanta - Jordan Bachynski - C - Arizona St.
44 - Minnesota - Jahii Carson - PG - Arizona St.
45 - Charlotte - Jarnell Stokes - PF - Tennessee
46 - Washington - Andrew Harrison - PG - Kentucky
47 - Philadelphia (via Brooklyn) - Walter Tavares - C - Cape Verde
48 - Chicago - Cory Jefferson - F - Baylor
49 - Milwaukee (via Toronto) - Thanasis Antetokounmpo - SG/SF - Greece
50 - Philadelphia (via Memphis) - Nick Johnson - G - Arizona
51 - Phoenix - Kaleb Tarczewski C - Arizona
52 - Dallas - A. J. Hammons - C - Purdue
53 - Minnesota (via Golden State) - Melvin Ejim - SF - Iowa St.
54 - Denver (via Portland) - Rasheed Sulaimon - G - Duke
55 - Phialdelphia (via Houston) - Alessandro Gentile - SF - Italy
56 - Indiana - C. J. Wilcox - SG - Washington
57 - Miami - Russ Smith - PG - Louisville
58 - LA Clippers - Isaiah Austin - PF/C - Baylor
59 - Toronto (via Oklahoma City) - Roy Devyn Marble - SG - Iowa
60 - San Antonio - Perry Ellis - F - Kansas

No love for DeAndre Kane admittedly old yet could be a defensive athletic guard with above avg rebounding and assisting tools off the bench?

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[dorkestra]

Like a third of your second round is going back to school most likely. And if Hollis-Jefferson declared, he would be more likely to be a lotto pick than a second rounder.

Yeah I leave most guys in there until we know for sure. Walker is going back for sure now. Most likely a handful of others. Guys like DeAndre Kane and Johnny O' Bryant could take their place.

As for RHJ, I like him, but I don't think he will be much more than an energetic defensive specialist off the bench. He has a very low skill level, especially on offense.

[dorkestra]

1 - Milwaukee - Joel Embiid - C - Kansas
2 - Philadelphia - Andrew Wiggins - SG/SF - Kansas
3 - Orlando - Jabari Parker - F - Duke
4 - Utah - Julius Randle - PF - Kentucky
5 - Boston - Dante Exum - G - Australia
6 - LA Lakers - Marcus Smart - G - Oklahoma St.
7 - Sacramento - Noah Vonleh - PF - Indiana
8 - Detroit - Gary Harris - SG - Michigan State
9 - Cleveland - Jusuf Nurkic - C - Bosnia & Herzegovina
10 - Philadelphia (via New Orleans) - Aaron Gordon - PF - Arizona
11 - Denver (via New York) - James Young - SG/SF - Kentucky
12 - Orlando (via Denver) - Tyler Ennis - PG - Syracuse
13 - Minnesota - Nik Stauskas - SG - Michigan
14 - Phoenix - Dario Saric - F - Croatia
15 - Atlanta - Kyle Anderson - F - UCLA
16 - Chicago (via Charlotte) - Adreian Payne - PF - Michigan State
17 - Phoenix (via Washington) - K. J. McDaniels - SG/SF - Clemson
18 - Boston (via Brooklyn) - Doug McDermott - F - Creighton
19 - Chicago - Rodney Hood - SG/SF - Duke
20 - Toronto - Clint Capela - PF - Switzerland
21 - Memphis - Jerami Grant - F - Syracuse
22 - Oklahoma City via Dallas - Elfrid Payton - PG - Louisiana - Lafayette
23 - Utah (via Golden State) - Zach LaVine - G - UCLA
24 - Charlotte (via Portland) - PJ Hairston - SG - North Carolina
25 - Houston - Shabazz Napier - G - UCONN
26 - Miami - Glenn Robinson III - SG/SF - Michigan
27 - Phoenix (via Indiana) - T. J. Warren - SF - NC State
28 - LA Clippers - Cleanthony Early - F - Wichita State
29 - Oklahoma City - Bogdan Bogdanovic - SG - Serbia
30 - San Antonio - Jordan Clarkson - PG - Missouri
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31 - Milwaukee - Deonte Burton - PG - Nevada
32 - Philadelphia - C. J. Wilcox - SG - Washington
33 - Cleveland (via Orlando) - Jordan Adams - SG/SF - UCLA
34 - Utah - Vasilje Micic - PG - Serbia
35 - Dallas (via Boston) - Alex Poythress - F - Kentucky
36 - Milwaukee (via LA Lakers) - Aaron Harrison - SG - Kentucky
37 - Toronto (via Sacramento) - Artem Kilimenko - C - Russia
38 - Detroit - Semaj Christon - PG - Xavier
39 - Philadelphia (via Cleveland) - Walter Tavares - C - Cape Verde
40 - Minnesota (via New Orleans) - Jarnell Stokes - PF - Tennessee
41 - Houston (via New York) - Alessandro Gentile - SF - Italy
42 - Denver - Andrew Harrison - PG - Kentucky
43 - Atlanta - Patric Young - PF/C - Florida
44 - Minnesota - Cory Jefferson - F - Baylor
45 - Charlotte - A. J. Hammons - C - Purdue
46 - Washington - Nikola Jokic - C - Serbia
47 - Philadelphia (via Brooklyn) - Thanasis Antetokounmpo - SG/SF - Greece
48 - Phoenix - Jahii Carson - PG - Arizona St.
49 - Chicago - Jordan Bachynski - C - Arizona St.
50 - Milwaukee (via Toronto) - Roy Devyn Marble - SG - Iowa
51 - Philadelphia (via Memphis) - Nick Johnson - G - Arizona
52 - Dallas - Dwight Powell - F - Stanford
53 - Minnesota (via Golden State) - Russ Smith - PG - Louisville
54 - Denver (via Portland) - Melvin Ejim - SF - Iowa St.
55 - Philadelphia (via Houston) - Fuquan Edwin - SG/SF - Seton Hall
56 - Miami - Jabari Brown - SG - Missouri
57 - Indiana - James McAdoo - PF - North Carolina
58 - LA Clippers - Johnny O'Bryant - C - LSU
59 - Toronto (via Oklahoma City) - LaQuinton Ross - SF - Ohio State
60 - San Antonio - Markel Brown - SG - Oklahoma State

[dorkestra]

1 - Milwaukee - Andrew Wiggins - SG/SF - Kansas
2 - Philadelphia - Joel Embiid - C - Kansas
3 - Orlando - Dante Exum - G - Australia
4 - Utah - Jabari Parker - F - Duke
5 - Boston - Julius Randle - PF - Kentucky
6 - LA Lakers - Noah Vonleh - PF - Indiana
7 - Sacramento - Marcus Smart - G - Oklahoma St.
8 - Detroit - Doug McDermott - F - Creighton
9 - Cleveland - Jusuf Nurkic - C - Bosnia & Herzegovina
10 - Philadelphia (via New Orleans) - James Young - SG/SF - Kentucky
11 - Orlando (via Denver) - Aaron Gordon - PF - Arizona
12 - Denver (via New York) - Gary Harris - SG - Michigan State
13 - Minnesota - Jerami Grant - F - Syracuse
14 - Phoenix - Dario Saric - F - Croatia
15 - Atlanta - Nik Stauskas - SG - Michigan
16 - Chicago (via Charlotte) - Zach LaVine - G - UCLA
17 - Boston (via Brooklyn) - PJ Hairston - SG - North Carolina
18 - Phoenix (via Washington) - K. J. McDaniels - SG/SF - Clemson
19 - Chicago - Adreian Payne - PF - Michigan State
20 - Toronto - Clint Capela - PF - Switzerland
21 - Oklahoma City via Dallas - Tyler Ennis - PG - Syracuse
22 - Memphis - Kyle Anderson - F - UCLA
23 - Utah (via Golden State) - Bogdan Bogdanovic - SG - Serbia
24 - Charlotte (via Portland) - Rodney Hood - SG/SF - Duke
25 - Houston - Glenn Robinson III - SG/SF - Michigan
26 - Miami - Shabazz Napier - G - UCONN
27 - Phoenix (via Indiana) - Elfrid Payton - PG - Louisiana - Lafayette
28 - LA Clippers - T. J. Warren - SF - NC State
29 - Oklahoma City - Cleanthony Early - F - Wichita State
30 - San Antonio - Semaj Christon - PG - Xavier
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31 - Milwaukee - Jordan Clarkson - PG - Missouri
32 - Philadelphia - C. J. Wilcox - SG - Washington
33 - Cleveland (via Orlando) - Aaron Harrison - SG - Kentucky
34 - Utah - Deonte Burton - PG - Nevada
35 - Dallas (via Boston) - Alex Poythress - F - Kentucky
36 - Milwaukee (via LA Lakers) - Thanasis Antetokounmpo - SG/SF - Greece
37 - Toronto (via Sacramento) - Andrew Harrison - PG - Kentucky
38 - Detroit - Jahii Carson - PG - Arizona St.
39 - Philadelphia (via Cleveland) - Alessandro Gentile - SF - Italy
40 - Minnesota (via New Orleans) - Jarnell Stokes - PF - Tennessee
41 - Denver - Vasilje Micic - PG - Serbia
42 - Houston (via New York) - Jordan Bachynski - C - Arizona St.
43 - Atlanta - Patric Young - PF/C - Florida
44 - Minnesota - Walter Tavares - C - Cape Verde
45 - Charlotte - Markel Brown - SG - Oklahoma State
46 - Philadelphia (via Brooklyn) - Artem Kilimenko - C - Russia
47 - Washington - Nikola Jokic - C - Serbia
48 - Phoenix - Cory Jefferson - F - Baylor
49 - Chicago - LaQuinton Ross - SF - Ohio State
50 - Milwaukee (via Toronto) - Jabari Brown - SG - Missouri
51 - Dallas - Nick Johnson - G - Arizona
52 - Philadelphia (via Memphis) - Fuquan Edwin - SG/SF - Seton Hall
53 - Minnesota (via Golden State) - Russ Smith - PG - Louisville
54 - Denver (via Portland) - Roy Devyn Marble - SG - Iowa
55 - Philadelphia (via Houston) - Dwight Powell - F - Stanford
56 - Miami - Johnny O'Bryant - C - LSU
57 - Indiana - Melvin Ejim - SF - Iowa St.
58 - LA Clippers - James McAdoo - PF - North Carolina
59 - Toronto (via Oklahoma City) - DeAndre Kane - SG - Iowa St.
60 - San Antonio - Keith Appling - PG - Michigan State

[djthesonicsfan]

21 - Oklahoma City via Dallas - Tyler Ennis - PG - Syracuse
29 - Oklahoma City - Cleanthony Early - F - Wichita State

Cleanthony can certainly score buckets, but we already got a pretty good SF. And PJ3's gathering dust behind him. Not to mention Roberson and Lamb. Personally, I think we need another PF. I could see us focusing on Patric Young. It appears most mocks have him mid second round... maybe we trade down? But who knows, maybe we need another rotation scorer?

[dorkestra]

21 - Oklahoma City via Dallas - Tyler Ennis - PG - Syracuse
29 - Oklahoma City - Cleanthony Early - F - Wichita State

Cleanthony can certainly score buckets, but we already got a pretty good SF. And PJ3's gathering dust behind him. Not to mention Roberson and Lamb. Personally, I think we need another PF. I could see us focusing on Patric Young. It appears most mocks have him mid second round... maybe we trade down? But who knows, maybe we need another rotation scorer?

As far as fit, I agree, with you, but if he's still available, I think they would take Early at 29 given the value and Roberson's offensive limitations. Perry can slide to four in a small lineup.

[dorkestra]

1 - Milwaukee - Andrew Wiggins - SG/SF - Kansas
2 - Philadelphia - Dante Exum - G - Australia
3 - Orlando - Jabari Parker - F - Duke
4 - Utah - Julius Randle - PF - Kentucky
5 - Boston - Joel Embiid - C - Kansas
6 - LA Lakers - Noah Vonleh - PF - Indiana
7 - Sacramento - Aaron Gordon - PF - Arizona
8 - Detroit - Marcus Smart - G - Oklahoma St.
9 - Cleveland - Jusuf Nurkic - C - Bosnia & Herzegovina
10 - Philadelphia (via New Orleans) - James Young - SG/SF - Kentucky
11 - Orlando (via Denver) - Tyler Ennis - PG - Syracuse
12 - Denver (via New York) - Gary Harris - SG - Michigan State
13 - Minnesota - Zach LaVine - G - UCLA
14 - Phoenix - Dario Saric - F - Croatia
15 - Atlanta - Kyle Anderson - F - UCLA
16 - Chicago (via Charlotte) - Nik Stauskas - SG - Michigan
17 - Boston (via Brooklyn) - Doug McDermott - F - Creighton
18 - Phoenix (via Washington) - K. J. McDaniels - SG/SF - Clemson
19 - Chicago - Adreian Payne - PF - Michigan State
20 - Toronto - Kristaps Porzingis - PF - Latvia
21 - Oklahoma City via Dallas - Clint Capela - PF - Switzerland
22 - Memphis - Jerami Grant - F - Syracuse
23 - Utah (via Golden State) - Rodney Hood - SG/SF - Duke
24 - Charlotte (via Portland) - PJ Hairston - SG - North Carolina
25 - Houston - Cleanthony Early - SF - Wichita State
26 - Miami - Glenn Robinson III - SG/SF - Michigan
27 - Phoenix (via Indiana) - Elfrid Payton - PG - Louisiana - Lafayette
28 - LA Clippers - T. J. Warren - F - NC State
29 - Oklahoma City - Shabazz Napier - G - UCONN
30 - San Antonio - Bogdan Bogdanovic - SG - Serbia
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31 - Milwaukee - Deonte Burton - PG - Nevada
32 - Philadelphia - Alessandro Gentile - SF - Italy
33 - Cleveland (via Orlando) - Jordan Adams - SG/SF - UCLA
34 - Utah - Vasilje Micic - PG - Serbia
35 - Dallas (via Boston) - Mitch McGary - PF/C - Michigan
36 - Milwaukee (via LA Lakers) - C. J. Wilcox - SG - Washington
37 - Toronto (via Sacramento) - Semaj Christon - PG - Xavier
38 - Detroit - DeAndre Daniels - SF - UCONN
39 - Philadelphia (via Cleveland) - Walter Tavares - C - Cape Verde
40 - Minnesota (via New Orleans) - Jordan Clarkson - PG - Missouri
41 - Denver - Jahii Carson - PG - Arizona St.
42 - Houston (via New York) - Jordan Bachynski - C - Arizona St.
43 - Atlanta - Nikola Jokic - C - Serbia
44 - Minnesota - Patric Young - PF/C - Florida
45 - Charlotte - Artem Kilimenko - C - Russia
46 - Philadelphia (via Brooklyn) - Dwight Powell - F - Stanford
47 - Washington - James McAdoo - PF - North Carolina
48 - Phoenix - Cory Jefferson - F - Baylor
49 - Chicago - Russ Smith - PG - Louisville
50 - Milwaukee (via Toronto) - Johnny O'Bryant - C - LSU
51 - Dallas - Fuquan Edwin - SG/SF - Seton Hall
52 - Philadelphia (via Memphis) - Sean Kilpatrick - SG - Cincinnati
53 - Minnesota (via Golden State) - Melvin Ejim - SF - Iowa St.
54 - Denver (via Portland) - Nick Johnson - G - Arizona
55 - Philadelphia (via Houston) - Jarnell Stokes - PF - Tennessee
56 - Miami - LaQuinton Ross - SF - Ohio State
57 - Indiana - Thanasis Antetokounmpo - SG/SF - Greece
58 - LA Clippers - Markel Brown - SG - Oklahoma State
59 - Toronto (via Oklahoma City) - Jabari Brown - SG - Missouri
60 - San Antonio - Roy Devyn Marble - SG - Iowa

[babyjax13]

Utah won't draft Randle. Kanter already does the same things he does on offense, except he is bigger, stronger and more skilled. In this scenario I think that we'd go with Embiid. As much talk as there is about Favors and Kanter both being centers, the only reason they don't work together is because Kanter is a defensive sieve. If Embiid is off the board along with the rest of the big three I think we'd be 50/50 between Smart and Exum.

At 23, I really doubt Rodney Hood is someone we'd consider. Small forwards who can't rebound aren't in high demand. PJ Hairston, GRIII, KJ McDaniels and Damien Inglis would all be higher on our wishlist. We need someone who works well off the ball because we already have a lot of wings who are better with it (Burks, Hayward). Hairston, especially, reminds me of Wes Matthews and the Jazz still regret getting rid of him.

For our final pick a backup point guard does seem likely. I don't know anything about Micic, but I don't see anyone later in the draft that I'd have to have.

[djthesonicsfan]

21 - Oklahoma City via Dallas - Clint Capela - PF - Switzerland
29 - Oklahoma City - Shabazz Napier - G - UCONN

Capela is an interesting prospect. Wouldn't be the first time Presti's shopped in Europe (Ibaka, Pleiß, Abrines). He has the length and athleticism, but I've read that he's got some attitude issues. A poor character has always been a deal breaker so that will warrant a much closer look.

I'm not as much a fan of Napier as some. And I don't think he's got the length or athleticism that Presti looks for in players. At the end of the first round I think the pick will be either Burton, Micic or Christon. I also think it's quite possible Presti trades down if he believes he can get his guy ten spots or so later in the draft.

[dorkestra]

Utah won't draft Randle. Kanter already does the same things he does on offense, except he is bigger, stronger and more skilled. In this scenario I think that we'd go with Embiid. As much talk as there is about Favors and Kanter both being centers, the only reason they don't work together is because Kanter is a defensive sieve. If Embiid is off the board along with the rest of the big three I think we'd be 50/50 between Smart and Exum.

At 23, I really doubt Rodney Hood is someone we'd consider. Small forwards who can't rebound aren't in high demand. PJ Hairston, GRIII, KJ McDaniels and Damien Inglis would all be higher on our wishlist. We need someone who works well off the ball because we already have a lot of wings who are better with it (Burks, Hayward). Hairston, especially, reminds me of Wes Matthews and the Jazz still regret getting rid of him.

For our final pick a backup point guard does seem likely. I don't know anything about Micic, but I don't see anyone later in the draft that I'd have to have.

Randle has a better first step and much more mentally imposing and naturally aggressive. Kanter is solid, but I rate Randle as a decidedly more enticing prospect and think he would be slightly more complimentary to Favors than Embiid. My mocks are a prediction, and I think if we consider the skepticism of Noel last year when he was touted as a likely 1st overall pick and slipped to sixth, it's not unreasonable to see this type of drop for Joel - even if unwarranted.

As far as Hood goes, he projects as a SF/SG, where rebounding is certainly not a primary concern. Even if it were, do you worry that much about a shooter who averaged 3.9 RPG? He would instantly become the best shooter on the Jazz and by most standards would be considered a steal at 23. The guys who listed above him are questionable at best (in popular opinion and my own opinion in this case). But you have highlighted the fact that I've completely lost Damien Inglis and Rasmus Larsen from my draft spreadsheet.

[dorkestra]

For Napier, I like the comparison of a slightly poor man's Terry. I can relate to your doubts about him as a prospect. His status is inflated due to his tournament performance. I've taken this into account in my draft. If I were you, I would prefer Micic as well. They don't need him now, with both Westbrook and Reggie at that position. He could stay overseas for a year if they wanted.

[babyjax13]

Utah won't draft Randle. Kanter already does the same things he does on offense, except he is bigger, stronger and more skilled. In this scenario I think that we'd go with Embiid. As much talk as there is about Favors and Kanter both being centers, the only reason they don't work together is because Kanter is a defensive sieve. If Embiid is off the board along with the rest of the big three I think we'd be 50/50 between Smart and Exum.

At 23, I really doubt Rodney Hood is someone we'd consider. Small forwards who can't rebound aren't in high demand. PJ Hairston, GRIII, KJ McDaniels and Damien Inglis would all be higher on our wishlist. We need someone who works well off the ball because we already have a lot of wings who are better with it (Burks, Hayward). Hairston, especially, reminds me of Wes Matthews and the Jazz still regret getting rid of him.

For our final pick a backup point guard does seem likely. I don't know anything about Micic, but I don't see anyone later in the draft that I'd have to have.

Randle has a better first step and much more mentally imposing and naturally aggressive. Kanter is solid, but I rate Randle as a decidedly more enticing prospect and think he would be slightly more complimentary to Favors than Embiid. My mocks are a prediction, and I think if we consider the skepticism of Noel last year when he was touted as a likely 1st overall pick and slipped to sixth, it's not unreasonable to see this type of drop for Joel - even if unwarranted.

As far as Hood goes, he projects as a SF/SG, where rebounding is certainly not a primary concern. Even if it were, do you worry that much about a shooter who averaged 3.9 RPG? He would instantly become the best shooter on the Jazz and by most standards would be considered a steal at 23. The guys who listed above him are questionable at best (in popular opinion and my own opinion in this case). But you have highlighted the fact that I've completely lost Damien Inglis and Rasmus Larsen from my draft spreadsheet.

Aggressiveness is NOT Kanter's weakness. Randle is extremely redundant with Kanter on board and I think that our front office will see that. I would be shocked if we drafted him. As for Hood, we tend to play quite a bit of small ball, putting a small forward in for 10-15 minutes per game at the 4. Hood isn't a guy that can do that, so unless he has some other elite skill besides shooting I don't think the Jazz draft him. Inglis can hold his own there, so I would be more in his camp...but I think that we would be extremely attracted to Hairston. He has the shooting ability and the defense, plus he makes one of Hayward/Burks more expendable. Of course, with a new coach things will change a lot.

[dorkestra]

Utah won't draft Randle. Kanter already does the same things he does on offense, except he is bigger, stronger and more skilled. In this scenario I think that we'd go with Embiid. As much talk as there is about Favors and Kanter both being centers, the only reason they don't work together is because Kanter is a defensive sieve. If Embiid is off the board along with the rest of the big three I think we'd be 50/50 between Smart and Exum.

At 23, I really doubt Rodney Hood is someone we'd consider. Small forwards who can't rebound aren't in high demand. PJ Hairston, GRIII, KJ McDaniels and Damien Inglis would all be higher on our wishlist. We need someone who works well off the ball because we already have a lot of wings who are better with it (Burks, Hayward). Hairston, especially, reminds me of Wes Matthews and the Jazz still regret getting rid of him.

For our final pick a backup point guard does seem likely. I don't know anything about Micic, but I don't see anyone later in the draft that I'd have to have.

Randle has a better first step and much more mentally imposing and naturally aggressive. Kanter is solid, but I rate Randle as a decidedly more enticing prospect and think he would be slightly more complimentary to Favors than Embiid. My mocks are a prediction, and I think if we consider the skepticism of Noel last year when he was touted as a likely 1st overall pick and slipped to sixth, it's not unreasonable to see this type of drop for Joel - even if unwarranted.

As far as Hood goes, he projects as a SF/SG, where rebounding is certainly not a primary concern. Even if it were, do you worry that much about a shooter who averaged 3.9 RPG? He would instantly become the best shooter on the Jazz and by most standards would be considered a steal at 23. The guys who listed above him are questionable at best (in popular opinion and my own opinion in this case). But you have highlighted the fact that I've completely lost Damien Inglis and Rasmus Larsen from my draft spreadsheet.

Aggressiveness is NOT Kanter's weakness. Randle is extremely redundant with Kanter on board and I think that our front office will see that. I would be shocked if we drafted him. As for Hood, we tend to play quite a bit of small ball, putting a small forward in for 10-15 minutes per game at the 4. Hood isn't a guy that can do that, so unless he has some other elite skill besides shooting I don't think the Jazz draft him. Inglis can hold his own there, so I would be more in his camp...but I think that we would be extremely attracted to Hairston. He has the shooting ability and the defense, plus he makes one of Hayward/Burks more expendable. Of course, with a new coach things will change a lot.

My main point with Randle over Kanter, is that I just think Randle is a much overall better propect. I respect that you disagree, and I'm sure you've seen a lot more of Kanter than I have, being a Jazz fan. This is based on what I've seen for myself - no hard feelings. Wasn't pointing out Kanter's lack of aggressiveness as much as Randle's excessive amounts.

Hood did play at power forward for stretches at Duke, but I agree he would struggle to do so in the NBA. His release is so high and quick and he can shoot off screens pretty well. I think he would be a great compliment to the playmaking abilities of Burke and Hayward. Hairston has a bit of a risk factor for me with questions about his effort going back to his freshman year in college. Gets lazy on defense. If a good coach can reel him in, he could be alright. With Hood, I think you more or less know what you're getting.

[dorkestra]

1 - Milwaukee - Andrew Wiggins - SG/SF - Kansas
2 - Philadelphia - Jabari Parker - F - Duke
3 - Orlando - Joel Embiid - C - Kansas
4 - Utah - Dante Exum - G - Australia
5 - Boston - Marcus Smart - G - Oklahoma St.
6 - LA Lakers - Noah Vonleh - PF - Indiana
7 - Sacramento - Julius Randle - PF - Kentucky
8 - Detroit - Dario Saric - F - Croatia
9 - Cleveland - Jusuf Nurkic - C - Bosnia & Herzegovina
10 - Philadelphia (via New Orleans) - Doug McDermott - F - Creighton
11 - Denver (via New York) - Aaron Gordon - PF - Arizona
12 - Orlando (via Denver) - Tyler Ennis - PG - Syracuse
13 - Minnesota - James Young - SG/SF - Kentucky
14 - Phoenix - Rodney Hood - SG/SF - Duke
15 - Atlanta - Gary Harris - SG - Michigan State
16 - Chicago (via Charlotte) - Nik Stauskas - SG - Michigan
17 - Boston (via Brooklyn) - Kyle Anderson - F - UCLA
18 - Phoenix (via Washington) - Kristaps Porzingis - PF - Latvia
19 - Chicago - Adreian Payne - PF - Michigan State
20 - Toronto - Zach LaVine - G - UCLA
21 - Oklahoma City via Dallas - Clint Capela - PF - Switzerland
22 - Memphis - T. J. Warren - F - NC State
23 - Utah (via Golden State) - K. J. McDaniels - SG/SF - Clemson
24 - Charlotte (via Portland) - PJ Hairston - SG - North Carolina
25 - Houston - Shabazz Napier - G - UCONN
26 - Miami - Cleanthony Early - SF - Wichita State
27 - Phoenix (via Indiana) - Jerami Grant - F - Syracuse
28 - LA Clippers - DeAndre Daniels - SF - UCONN
29 - Oklahoma City - Elfrid Payton - PG - Louisiana - Lafayette
30 - San Antonio - Mitch McGary - PF/C - Michigan
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31 - Milwaukee - Deonte Burton - PG - Nevada
32 - Philadelphia - Bogdan Bogdanovic - SG - Serbia
33 - Cleveland (via Orlando) - Glenn Robinson III - SG/SF - Michigan
34 - Utah - Jordan Adams - SG/SF - UCLA
35 - Dallas (via Boston) - Patric Young - PF/C - Florida
36 - Milwaukee (via LA Lakers) - Thanasis Antetokounmpo - SG/SF - Greece
37 - Toronto (via Sacramento) - Vasilje Micic - PG - Serbia
38 - Detroit - Jordan Clarkson - PG - Missouri
39 - Philadelphia (via Cleveland) - Damien Inglis - SF - France
40 - Minnesota (via New Orleans) - Walter Tavares - C - Cape Verde
41 - Denver - Jarnell Stokes - PF - Tennessee
42 - Houston (via New York) - C. J. Wilcox - SG - Washington
43 - Atlanta - Nikola Jokic - C - Serbia
44 - Minnesota - Semaj Christon - PG - Xavier
45 - Charlotte - Nick Johnson - G - Arizona
46 - Philadelphia (via Brooklyn) - Artem Kilimenko - C - Russia
47 - Washington - Jordan Bachynski - C - Arizona St.
48 - Phoenix - Jahii Carson - PG - Arizona St.
49 - Chicago - Russ Smith - PG - Louisville
50 - Milwaukee (via Toronto) - Johnny O'Bryant - C - LSU
51 - Dallas - Isaiah Austin - PF/C - Baylor
52 - Philadelphia (via Memphis) - Cory Jefferson - F - Baylor
53 - Minnesota (via Golden State) - Markel Brown - SG - Oklahoma State
54 - Denver (via Portland) - Sean Kilpatrick - SG - Cincinnati
55 - Philadelphia (via Houston) - Alessandro Gentile - SF - Italy
56 - Miami - LaQuinton Ross - SF - Ohio State
57 - Indiana - Dwight Powell - F - Stanford
58 - LA Clippers - James McAdoo - PF - North Carolina
59 - Toronto (via Oklahoma City) - Melvin Ejim - SF - Iowa St.
60 - San Antonio - Roy Devyn Marble - SG - Iowa

[LloydFree]

I can't envision the 76ers taking both Jabari Parker and Doug McDermott. If the 76er take Parker, and Aaron Gordon is still on the board when they pick at #10, they will take him.

[babyjax13]

I'm on board for Utah, this would be a killer draft. I think we'd be town between Adams and Micic, though.

[dorkestra]

1 - Cleveland - Joel Embiid - C - Kansas
2 - Milwaukee - Jabari Parker - F - Duke
3 - Philadelphia - Andrew Wiggins - SG/SF - Kansas
4 - Orlando - Dante Exum - G - Australia
5 - Utah - Noah Vonleh - PF - Indiana
6 - Boston - Marcus Smart - G - Oklahoma St.
7 - LA Lakers - Julius Randle - PF - Kentucky
8 - Sacramento - Dario Saric - F - Croatia
9 - Charlotte (via Detroit) - Nik Stauskas - SG - Michigan
10 - Philadelphia (via New Orleans) - Aaron Gordon - PF - Arizona
11 - Denver (via New York) - James Young - SG/SF - Kentucky
12 - Orlando (via Denver) - Doug McDermott - F - Creighton
13 - Minnesota - Rodney Hood - SG/SF - Duke
14 - Phoenix - Gary Harris - SG - Michigan State
15 - Atlanta - Kyle Anderson - F - UCLA
16 - Chicago (via Charlotte) - Tyler Ennis - PG - Syracuse
17 - Boston (via Brooklyn) - Jusuf Nurkic - C - Bosnia & Herzegovina
18 - Phoenix (via Washington) - Kristaps Porzingis - PF - Latvia
19 - Chicago - Zach LaVine - G - UCLA
20 - Toronto - Clint Capela - PF - Switzerland
21 - Oklahoma City via Dallas - Adreian Payne - PF - Michigan State
22 - Memphis - K. J. McDaniels - SG/SF - Clemson
23 - Utah (via Golden State) - T. J. Warren - F - NC State
24 - Charlotte (via Portland) - Shabazz Napier - G - UCONN
25 - Houston - PJ Hairston - SG - North Carolina
26 - Miami - Mitch McGary - PF/C - Michigan
27 - Phoenix (via Indiana) - Jerami Grant - F - Syracuse
28 - LA Clippers - Cleanthony Early - SF - Wichita State
29 - Oklahoma City - Semaj Christon - PG - Xavier
30 - San Antonio - Elfrid Payton - PG - Louisiana - Lafayette
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31 - Milwaukee - Deonte Burton - PG - Nevada
32 - Philadelphia - Jordan Adams - SG/SF - UCLA
33 - Cleveland (via Orlando) - Glenn Robinson III - SG/SF - Michigan
34 - Utah - Vasilje Micic - PG - Serbia
35 - Dallas (via Boston) - Patric Young - PF/C - Florida
36 - Milwaukee (via LA Lakers) - Thanasis Antetokounmpo - SG/SF - Greece
37 - Toronto (via Sacramento) - DeAndre Daniels - SF - UCONN
38 - Detroit - Jarnell Stokes - PF - Tennessee
39 - Philadelphia (via Cleveland) - Walter Tavares - C - Cape Verde
40 - Minnesota (via New Orleans) - Jordan Clarkson - PG - Missouri
41 - Denver - Bogdan Bogdanovic - SG - Serbia
42 - Houston (via New York) - Damien Inglis - SF - France
43 - Atlanta - Isaiah Austin - PF/C - Baylor
44 - Minnesota - Johnny O'Bryant - C - LSU
45 - Charlotte - James McAdoo - PF - North Carolina
46 - Philadelphia (via Brooklyn) - Artem Kilimenko - C - Russia
47 - Washington - Jordan Bachynski - C - Arizona St.
48 - Phoenix - Jahii Carson - PG - Arizona St.
49 - Chicago - Cory Jefferson - F - Baylor
50 - Milwaukee (via Toronto) - Nikola Jokic - C - Serbia
51 - Dallas - C. J. Wilcox - SG - Washington
52 - Philadelphia (via Memphis) - Russ Smith - PG - Louisville
53 - Minnesota (via Golden State) - Nick Johnson - G - Arizona
54 - Denver (via Portland) - Sean Kilpatrick - SG - Cincinnati
55 - Philadelphia (via Houston) - Alessandro Gentile - SF - Italy
56 - Miami - Markel Brown - SG - Oklahoma State
57 - Indiana - Dwight Powell - F - Stanford
58 - LA Clippers - LaQuinton Ross - SF - Ohio State
59 - Toronto (via Oklahoma City) - Melvin Ejim - SF - Iowa St.
60 - San Antonio - Roy Devyn Marble - SG - Iowa

[RSCD3_]

1 - Cleveland - Joel Embiid - C - Kansas
2 - Milwaukee - Jabari Parker - F - Duke
3 - Philadelphia - Andrew Wiggins - SG/SF - Kansas
4 - Orlando - Dante Exum - G - Australia
5 - Utah - Noah Vonleh - PF - Indiana
6 - Boston - Marcus Smart - G - Oklahoma St.
7 - LA Lakers - Julius Randle - PF - Kentucky
8 - Sacramento - Dario Saric - F - Croatia
9 - Charlotte (via Detroit) - Nik Stauskas - SG - Michigan
10 - Philadelphia (via New Orleans) - Aaron Gordon - PF - Arizona
11 - Denver (via New York) - James Young - SG/SF - Kentucky
12 - Orlando (via Denver) - Doug McDermott - F - Creighton
13 - Minnesota - Rodney Hood - SG/SF - Duke
14 - Phoenix - Gary Harris - SG - Michigan State
15 - Atlanta - Kyle Anderson - F - UCLA
16 - Chicago (via Charlotte) - Tyler Ennis - PG - Syracuse
17 - Boston (via Brooklyn) - Jusuf Nurkic - C - Bosnia & Herzegovina
18 - Phoenix (via Washington) - Kristaps Porzingis - PF - Latvia
19 - Chicago - Zach LaVine - G - UCLA
20 - Toronto - Clint Capela - PF - Switzerland
21 - Oklahoma City via Dallas - Adreian Payne - PF - Michigan State
22 - Memphis - K. J. McDaniels - SG/SF - Clemson
23 - Utah (via Golden State) - T. J. Warren - F - NC State
24 - Charlotte (via Portland) - Shabazz Napier - G - UCONN
25 - Houston - PJ Hairston - SG - North Carolina
26 - Miami - Mitch McGary - PF/C - Michigan
27 - Phoenix (via Indiana) - Jerami Grant - F - Syracuse
28 - LA Clippers - Cleanthony Early - SF - Wichita State
29 - Oklahoma City - Semaj Christon - PG - Xavier
30 - San Antonio - Elfrid Payton - PG - Louisiana - Lafayette
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31 - Milwaukee - Deonte Burton - PG - Nevada
32 - Philadelphia - Jordan Adams - SG/SF - UCLA
33 - Cleveland (via Orlando) - Glenn Robinson III - SG/SF - Michigan
34 - Utah - Vasilje Micic - PG - Serbia
35 - Dallas (via Boston) - Patric Young - PF/C - Florida
36 - Milwaukee (via LA Lakers) - Thanasis Antetokounmpo - SG/SF - Greece
37 - Toronto (via Sacramento) - DeAndre Daniels - SF - UCONN
38 - Detroit - Jarnell Stokes - PF - Tennessee
39 - Philadelphia (via Cleveland) - Walter Tavares - C - Cape Verde
40 - Minnesota (via New Orleans) - Jordan Clarkson - PG - Missouri
41 - Denver - Bogdan Bogdanovic - SG - Serbia
42 - Houston (via New York) - Damien Inglis - SF - France
43 - Atlanta - Isaiah Austin - PF/C - Baylor
44 - Minnesota - Johnny O'Bryant - C - LSU
45 - Charlotte - James McAdoo - PF - North Carolina
46 - Philadelphia (via Brooklyn) - Artem Kilimenko - C - Russia
47 - Washington - Jordan Bachynski - C - Arizona St.
48 - Phoenix - Jahii Carson - PG - Arizona St.
49 - Chicago - Cory Jefferson - F - Baylor
50 - Milwaukee (via Toronto) - Nikola Jokic - C - Serbia
51 - Dallas - C. J. Wilcox - SG - Washington
52 - Philadelphia (via Memphis) - Russ Smith - PG - Louisville
53 - Minnesota (via Golden State) - Nick Johnson - G - Arizona
54 - Denver (via Portland) - Sean Kilpatrick - SG - Cincinnati
55 - Philadelphia (via Houston) - Alessandro Gentile - SF - Italy
56 - Miami - Markel Brown - SG - Oklahoma State
57 - Indiana - Dwight Powell - F - Stanford
58 - LA Clippers - LaQuinton Ross - SF - Ohio State
59 - Toronto (via Oklahoma City) - Melvin Ejim - SF - Iowa St.
60 - San Antonio - Roy Devyn Marble - SG - Iowa

OKC would be lucky to draft Payne

They could run smallball and still have durant at the 3,

Ibaka
Payne
Durant
Westbrook
Jackson

In my opinion he goes a few spots earlier than that as a mid level east tean that didnt make the playoffs takes a chance

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