Dorkestra Mock 2015

skywalker33 · Post #21 » by **skywalker33** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 5:06 am

See Russell as more of a Westbrook type and I look for the Nuggets to select him over a SF/PF Looney. Not that Looney isn't a worth pick, but Russell's play give backup PG skills and can also play SG

Post #22 » by **Marcus** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 5:34 pm

skywalker33 wrote:See Russell as more of a Westbrook type and I look for the Nuggets to select him over a SF/PF Looney. Not that Looney isn't a worth pick, but Russell's play give backup PG skills and can also play SG

You see D'Angelo Russell as a Russell Westbrook type? how? what makes that comparison work at all?

skywalker33 · Post #23 » by **skywalker33** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 7:36 pm

Marcus wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:See Russell as more of a Westbrook type and I look for the Nuggets to select him over a SF/PF Looney. Not that Looney isn't a worth pick, but Russell's play give backup PG skills and can also play SG

You see D'Angelo Russell as a Russell Westbrook type? how? what makes that comparison work at all?

Similar size, can play the point, strong passing skills yet is more aggressive to the hole than typical PG. Doesn't have Westbrooks speed but has as strong a stroke as Westbrook

ColdBlooded · Post #24 » by **ColdBlooded** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 7:43 pm

Sky, i understand what you're saying, but unless you're an athletic freak, the Westbrook comparison should not be made.

skywalker33 · Post #25 » by **skywalker33** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 9:07 pm

ColdBlooded wrote:Sky, i understand what you're saying, but unless you're an athletic freak, the Westbrook comparison should not be made.

That is why I said type, he has enough of the same traits flr me to make that comparison. Also, when I've seen him play, that's who he reminds me of. Westbrook is a unique player, but I feel that Russell has enough game to warrant that type of comparison.

Post #26 » by **Marcus** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 10:14 pm

Just hard for me to see a Westbrook comparison without factoring in his athletic gifts. His strength and explosion are two of his biggest weapons neither of which druss has or his ability to hound defensively. Just tough for me to get.

reanimator · Post #27 » by **reanimator** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 10:22 pm

The best comparison I have heard for Russell is Delonte West. West is the better vertical leaper and Russell is a better shooter but you are getting a very similar floor game.

skywalker33 · Post #28 » by **skywalker33** » Wed Jan 7, 2015 2:25 am

Nbadraft.net is comparing him to Brandon Roy as the ceiling, Manu as the floor

reanimator · Post #29 » by **reanimator** » Wed Jan 7, 2015 2:35 am

Because .Net is clueless.

Roy could finish through defenders at the rim and post up. Manu is a one off.

Russell is going to produce somewhere between Delonte West and Goran Dragic IMO.

Post #30 » by **Marcus** » Wed Jan 7, 2015 2:57 am

skywalker33 wrote:Nbadraft.net is comparing him to Brandon Roy as the ceiling, Manu as the floor

That site is notorious for bad comps. They do a lot of them off physical looks instead of skillset and game. Also the same site that called deshawn Stevenson Kobe Bryant. Just saying.

DaddyCool19 · Post #31 » by **DaddyCool19** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 1:04 pm

Marcus wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:Nbadraft.net is comparing him to Brandon Roy as the ceiling, Manu as the floor

That site is notorious for bad comps. They do a lot of them off physical looks instead of skillset and game. Also the same site that called deshawn Stevenson Kobe Bryant. Just saying.

Not just Kobe. His NBA comparison was Michael Jordan :lol:

dorkestra · Post #32 » by **dorkestra** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:59 pm

1 - New York Knicks - Jahlil Okafor - C - Duke
2 - Minnesota Timberwolves - Karl Towns - PF/C - Kentucky
3 - Philadelphia 76ers - Emmanuel Mudiay - PG - United States of America/Congo
4 - Los Angeles Lakers - Justise Winslow - SF - Duke
5 - Detroit Pistons - Stanley Johnson - SF - Arizona
6 - Orlando Magic - Kristaps Porzingis - PF/C - Latvia
7 - Utah Jazz - Mario Hezonja - SG/SF - Croatia
8 - Boston Celtics - Willie Cauley-Stein - C - Kentucky
9 - Charlotte Hornets - Myles Turner - C - Texas
10 - Indiana Pacers - D'Angelo Russell - SG - Ohio State
11 - Chicago Bulls (via Sacramento Kings) - Caris LeVert - SG/SF - Michigan
12 - Denver Nuggets - Kelly Oubre - SF - Kansas
13 - Oklahoma City Thunder - Kevon Looney - SF/PF - UCLA
14 - Houston Rockets (via New Orelans Pelicans) - Frank Kaminsky - C - Wisconsin
15 - Philadelphia 76ers (via Miami Heat) - Rondae Hollis-Jefferson - SG/SF - Arizona
16 - Atlanta Hawks (via Brooklyn Nets) - Montrezl Harrell - PF - Louisville
17 - Chicago Bulls (via Cleveland Cavaliers) - Tyus Jones - PG - Duke
18 - Milwaukee Bucks - Sam Dekker - SF - Wisconsin
19 - Phoenix Suns - Trey Lyles - PF - Kentucky
20 - San Antonio Spurs - Bobby Portis - PF - Arkansas
21 - Boston Celtics (via Los Angeles Clippers) - R. J. Hunter - SG - Georgia State
22 - Cleveland Cavaliers (via Chicago Bulls) - Cliff Alexander - PF/C - Kansas
23 - Toronto Raptors - Robert Upshaw - C - Washington
24 - Washington Wizards - Christian Wood - PF - UNLV
25 - Memphis Grizzlies - Chris McCullough - PF - Syracuse
26 - Los Angeles Lakers (via Houston Rockets) - Dakari Johnson - C - Kentucky
27 - Dallas Mavericks - Delon Wright - PG - Utah
28 - Portland Trailblazers - Rashad Vaughn - SG - UNLV
29 - Brooklyn Nets (via Atlanta Hawks) - Isaiah Taylor - PG - Texas
30 - Golden State Warriors - Chris Walker - PF - Florida

dorkestra · Post #33 » by **dorkestra** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:36 pm

1 - New York Knicks - Karl Towns - PF/C - Kentucky
2 - Minnesota Timberwolves - Jahlil Okafor - C - Duke
3 - Philadelphia 76ers - Emmanuel Mudiay - PG - United States of America/Congo
4 - Los Angeles Lakers - Stanley Johnson - SF - Arizona
5 - Orlando Magic - Justise Winslow - SF - Duke
6 - Utah Jazz - Mario Hezonja - SG/SF - Croatia
7 - Boston Celtics - Willie Cauley-Stein - C - Kentucky
8 - Detroit Pistons - Kelly Oubre - SF - Kansas
9 - Charlotte Hornets - Kristaps Porzingis - PF/C - Latvia
10 - Indiana Pacers - Kevon Looney - SF/PF - UCLA
11 - Chicago Bulls (via Sacramento Kings) - D'Angelo Russell - SG - Ohio State
12 - Denver Nuggets - Trey Lyles - PF - Kentucky
13 - Oklahoma City Thunder - Myles Turner - C - Texas
14 - Houston Rockets (via New Orelans Pelicans) - Caris LeVert - SG/SF - Michigan
15 - Philadelphia 76ers (via Miami Heat) - Rondae Hollis-Jefferson - SG/SF - Arizona
16 - Atlanta Hawks (via Brooklyn Nets) - Frank Kaminsky - C - Wisconsin
17 - Chicago Bulls (via Cleveland Cavaliers) - Montrezl Harrell - PF - Louisville
18 - Milwaukee Bucks - Tyus Jones - PG - Duke
19 - Phoenix Suns - Cliff Alexander - PF/C - Kansas
20 - San Antonio Spurs - Bobby Portis - PF - Arkansas
21 - Boston Celtics (via Los Angeles Clippers) - Sam Dekker - SF - Wisconsin
22 - Washington Wizards - Dakari Johnson - C - Kentucky
23 - Dallas Mavericks - Robert Upshaw - C - Washington
24 - Cleveland Cavaliers (via Chicago Bulls) - Chris McCullough - PF - Syracuse
25 - Toronto Raptors - Chris Walker - PF - Florida
26 - Memphis Grizzlies - Christian Wood - PF - UNLV
27 - Los Angeles Lakers (via Houston Rockets) - Delon Wright - PG - Utah
28 - Brooklyn Nets (via Atlanta Hawks) - Isaiah Taylor - PG - Texas
29 - Portland Trailblazers - R. J. Hunter - SG - Georgia State
30 - Golden State Warriors - Rashad Vaughn - SG - UNLV

RightToCensor · Post #34 » by **RightToCensor** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:45 pm

Is this based on team needs or just a ranking of players?

I'd imagine Houston would definitely rather have Harrell.

Post #35 » by **Marcus** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:50 pm

RightToCensor wrote:Is this based on team needs or just a ranking of players?

I'd imagine Houston would definitely rather have Harrell.

or even a Delon Wright for that matter. another ball handler creater to help take some pressure off Harden and still provide defense for the PG side. while not as harrassing as Pat Bevie still very pesky with long arms and quick hands. could set the table for the 2nd unit when he isn't on the floor with Harden.

dorkestra · Post #36 » by **dorkestra** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:05 am

Harrell isn't any better than the gluttony of power forwards the Rockets already have. If they like Delon Wright, they could trade down, but I don't think it makes any sense value-wise to take him at 14.

Post #37 » by **Marcus** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:38 am

dorkestra wrote:Harrell isn't any better than the gluttony of power forwards the Rockets already have. If they like Delon Wright, they could trade down, but I don't think it makes any sense value-wise to take him at 14.

in what way do you think Caris LeVert helps? or is that a BPA selection?

dorkestra · Post #38 » by **dorkestra** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:42 pm

Marcus wrote:
dorkestra wrote:Harrell isn't any better than the gluttony of power forwards the Rockets already have. If they like Delon Wright, they could trade down, but I don't think it makes any sense value-wise to take him at 14.

in what way do you think Caris LeVert helps? or is that a BPA selection?

It' mostly BPA, but having a young SG/SF to bolster their wing depth (offering off the bench offensive creation) would be a good move for Houston even in terms of fit. With T Jones, D Mo, even Joey Dorsey and potentially Josh Smih (if he comes back) Harrell would be in the D League for at least a year and has a quite limited ceiling to be honest.

dorkestra · Post #39 » by **dorkestra** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:59 pm

1 - New York Knicks - Jahlil Okafor - C - Duke
2 - Minnesota Timberwolves - Karl Towns - PF/C - Kentucky
3 - Philadelphia 76ers - Emmanuel Mudiay - PG - United States of America/Congo
4 - Los Angeles Lakers - Stanley Johnson - SF - Arizona
5 - Utah Jazz - Kristaps Porzingis - PF/C - Latvia
6 - Boston Celtics - Willie Cauley-Stein - C - Kentucky
7 - Orlando Magic - Kelly Oubre - SF - Kansas
8 - Detroit Pistons - Justise Winslow - SF - Duke
9 - Indiana Pacers - Mario Hezonja - SG/SF - Croatia
10 - Charlotte Hornets - Kevon Looney - SF/PF - UCLA
11 - Chicago Bulls (via Sacramento Kings) - D'Angelo Russell - SG - Ohio State
12 - Denver Nuggets - Trey Lyles - PF - Kentucky
13 - Oklahoma City Thunder - Caris LeVert - SG/SF - Michigan
14 - Houston Rockets (via New Orelans Pelicans) - Myles Turner - C - Texas
15 - Atlanta Hawks (via Brooklyn Nets) - Frank Kaminsky - C - Wisconsin
16 - Philadelphia 76ers (via Miami Heat) - Rondae Hollis-Jefferson - SG/SF - Arizona
17 - Chicago Bulls (via Cleveland Cavaliers) - Cliff Alexander - PF/C - Kansas
18 - Milwaukee Bucks - Montrezl Harrell - PF - Louisville
19 - Phoenix Suns - Sam Dekker - SF - Wisconsin
20 - San Antonio Spurs - Robert Upshaw - C - Washington
21 - Cleveland Cavaliers (via Chicago Bulls) - Bobby Portis - PF - Arkansas
22 - Boston Celtics (via Los Angeles Clippers) - Tyus Jones - PG - Duke
23 - Dallas Mavericks - Chris McCullough - PF - Syracuse
24 - Los Angeles Lakers (via Houston Rockets) - Dakari Johnson - C - Kentucky
25 - Washington Wizards - Christian Wood - PF - UNLV
26 - Memphis Grizzlies - Delon Wright - PG - Utah
27 - Portland Trailblazers - Wayne Selden - SG/SF - Kansa
28 - Toronto Raptors - Chris Walker - PF - Florida
29 - Brooklyn Nets (via Atlanta Hawks) - Isaiah Taylor - PG - Texas
30 - Golden State Warriors - R. J. Hunter - SG - Georgia State

dorkestra · Post #40 » by **dorkestra** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:57 pm

1 - New York Knicks - Jahlil Okafor - C - Duke
2 - Minnesota Timberwolves - Karl Towns - PF/C - Kentucky
3 - Philadelphia 76ers - Emmanuel Mudiay - PG - United States of America/Congo
4 - Los Angeles Lakers - Stanley Johnson - SF - Arizona
5 - Boston Celtics - Willie Cauley-Stein - C - Kentucky
6 - Orlando Magic - Kristaps Porzingis - PF/C - Latvia
7 - Utah Jazz - Mario Hezonja - SG/SF - Croatia
8 - Indiana Pacers - D'Angelo Russell - SG - Ohio State
9 - Detroit Pistons - Justise Winslow - SF - Duke
10 - Charlotte Hornets - Kevon Looney - SF/PF - UCLA
11 - Chicago Bulls (via Sacramento Kings) - Myles Turner - C - Texas
12 - Denver Nuggets - Kelly Oubre - SF - Kansas
13 - Oklahoma City Thunder - Trey Lyles - PF - Kentucky
14 - Houston Rockets (via New Orelans Pelicans) - Frank Kaminsky - C - Wisconsin
15 - Atlanta Hawks (via Brooklyn Nets) - Caris LeVert - SG/SF - Michigan
16 - Philadelphia 76ers (via Miami Heat) - Rondae Hollis-Jefferson - SG/SF - Arizona
17 - Chicago Bulls (via Cleveland Cavaliers) - Tyus Jones - PG - Duke
18 - Milwaukee Bucks - Sam Dekker - SF - Wisconsin
19 - Phoenix Suns - Cliff Alexander - PF/C - Kansas
20 - San Antonio Spurs - Dakari Johnson - C - Kentucky
21 - Cleveland Cavaliers (via Chicago Bulls) - Montrezl Harrell - PF - Louisville
22 - Boston Celtics (via Los Angeles Clippers) - Devin Booker - SG - Kentucky
23 - Toronto Raptors - Bobby Portis - PF - Arkansas
24 - Los Angeles Lakers (via Houston Rockets) - Robert Upshaw - C - Washington
25 - Washington Wizards - Christian Wood - PF - UNLV
26 - Dallas Mavericks - R. J. Hunter - SG - Georgia State
27 - Memphis Grizzlies - Chris McCullough - PF - Syracuse
28 - Portland Trailblazers - Delon Wright - PG - Utah
29 - Brooklyn Nets (via Atlanta Hawks) - Tyrone Wallace - PG - California
30 - Golden State Warriors - Wayne Selden - SG/SF - Kansas