Official Cammo 2017 Mock Thread

Norm2953 · Post #141 » by **Norm2953** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:08 am

How far up the board can Portland get from a package of 20,26 for I'd love Portland to
get a solid backup center to play behind Nurkic who has missed 20+ games each season
in his first 3 seasons and a front court upgrade from Aminu/Harkless.

Post #142 » by **Worm Guts** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:34 pm

Cammo101 wrote:4/18/17 (Post Tiebreaker Mock)

1. Boston - Markelle Fultz (6'4'', PG, Washington, Fresh.)
2. Phoenix - Josh Jackson (6'8'', SF, Kansas, Fresh.)
3. LA Lakers - Lonzo Ball (6'5'', PG, UCLA, Fresh.)
4. Philadelphia - Jayson Tatum (6'8'', SF, Duke, Fresh.)
5. Orlando - Jonathan Isaac (6'10'', SF, Florida State, Fresh.)
6. Minnesota - Lauri Markkanen (7'0'', PF, Arizona, Fresh.)
7. New York - De'Aaron Fox (6'4'', PG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
8. Sacramento - Dennis Smith (6'2'', PG, North Carolina State, Fresh.)
9. Dallas - Frank Ntilikina (6'4'', PG, France)
10. Sacramento - Zach Collins (7'0'', C, Gonzaga, Fresh.)
11. Charlotte - Malik Monk (6'3'', SG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
12. Detroit - Terrance Ferguson (6'7'', SG, Australia)
13. Denver - Justin Jackson (6'8'', SF, North Carolina, Jr.)
14. Miami - TJ Leaf (6'10'', PF, UCLA, Fresh.)
15. Portland - Jarrett Allen (6'10'', C, Texas, Fresh.)
16. Chicago - Donovan Mitchell (6'4'', SG, Louisville, Soph.)
17. Milwaukee - Justin Patton (7'0'', C, Creighton, Fresh.)
18. Indiana - John Collins (6'10'', PF, Wake Forest, Soph.)
19. Atlanta - OG Anunoby (6'8'', SF, Indiana, Soph.)
20. Portland - Ivan Rabb (6'10'', PF, California, Soph.)
21. Oklahoma City - DJ Wilson (6'10'', PF, Michigan, Soph.)
22. Brooklyn - Jawun Evans (6'1'', PG, Oklahoma State, Soph.)
23. Toronto - Ike Anigbogu (6'10'', C, UCLA, Fresh.)
24. Utah - Harry Giles (6'10'', PF, Duke, Fresh.)
25. Orlando - Luke Kennard (6'5'', SG, Duke, Soph.)
26. Portland - Rodions Kurucs (6'8'', SF, Latvia)
27. Brooklyn - Isaiah Hartenstein (6'11'', PF, Germany)
28. LA Lakers - Tony Bradley (6'10'', C, North Carolina, Fresh.)
29. San Antonio - Anzejs Pasecniks (7'2'', C, Latvia)
30. Utah - PJ Dozier (6'6'', SG, South Carolina, Soph.)

31. Atlanta - Tyler Lydon (6'9'', PF, Syracuse, Soph.)
32. Phoenix - Bam Adebayo (6'10'', C, Kentucky, Fresh.)
33. Orlando - Kostja Mushidi (6'5'', SG, Belgium)
34. Sacramento - Semi Ojeleye (6'7'', SF, SMU, Jr.)
35. Orlando - Caleb Swanigan (6'9'', PF, Purdue, Soph.)
36. Philadelphia - Josh Hart (6'6'', SG, Villanova, Sr.)
37. Boston - Johnathan Motley (6'10'', PF, Baylor, Jr.)
38. Chicago - Jonathan Jeanne (7'1'', C, France)
39. Philadelphia - Kobi Simmons (6'4'', PG, Arizona, Fresh.)
40. New Orleans - Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk (6'8'', SF, Kansas, Jr.)
41. Charlotte - Jaron Blossomgame (6'7'', SF, Clemson, Sr.)
42. Utah - Mathias Lessort (6'9'', PF, Martinique)
43. Houston - Thomas Bryant (7'0'', C, Indiana, Soph.)
44. New York - Alpha Kaba (6'10'', C, France)
45. Houston - Frank Mason (5'11'', PG, North Carolina, Sr.)
46. Philadelphia - Omer Yurtseven (7'0'', C, North Carolina State, Fresh.)
47. Indiana - Monte Morris (6'3'', PG, Iowa State, Sr.)
48. Milwaukee - Dwayne Bacon (6'7'', SG, Florida State, Soph.)
49. Denver - Jordan Bell (6'8'', PF, Oregon, Jr.)
50. Philadelphia - Viny Okouo (7'2'', C, Congo)
51. Denver - Borisa Simanic (6'10'', PF, Serbia)
52. Washington - Alec Peters (6'9'', PF, Valparaiso, Sr.)
53. Boston - Dillon Brooks (6'6'', SF, Oregon, Jr.)
54. Phoenix - Edmond Sumner (6'5'', SG, Xavier, Soph.)
55. Utah - Nigel Williams-Goss (6'3'', PG, Gonzaga, Jr.)
56. Boston - Kennedy Meeks (6'10'', C, North Carolina, Sr.)
57. Brooklyn - Trevon Bluiett (6'7'', SF, Xavier, Jr.)
58. New York - Sindarius Thornwell (6'5'', SG, South Carolina, Sr.)
59. San Antonio - Jonah Bolden (6'10'', PF, Australia)
60. Atlanta - Cameron Oliver (6'8'', PF, Nevada, Soph.)

I won't be happy if the Wolves end up with Markannen, but I don't want a PG either. This is kind of the worst case scenario for the Wolves with Isaac going 5th.

Cammo101 · Post #143 » by **Cammo101** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:07 pm

Norm2953 wrote:How far up the board can Portland get from a package of 20,26 for I'd love Portland to
get a solid backup center to play behind Nurkic who has missed 20+ games each season
in his first 3 seasons and a front court upgrade from Aminu/Harkless.

It's hard to say, but my guess is not very far. Not a lot of teams clamoring to move down a few spots to add a late 1st. That's why Portland's best bet is to take the center with their lotto pick (Allen, Anigbogu, or Patton presumably) and then worry about their other needs later.

Cammo101 · Post #144 » by **Cammo101** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:10 pm

Worm Guts wrote:I won't be happy if the Wolves end up with Markannen, but I don't want a PG either. This is kind of the worst case scenario for the Wolves with Isaac going 5th.

Why don't you want Markkanen? He feels like exactly what Minnesota needs. A big man who they can pair with Towns who can shoot from distance and space the floor for their other talented scorers. Rubio/Dunn, LaVine/Shabazz, Wiggins, Markkanen, Towns looks pretty good to me.

Post #145 » by **Worm Guts** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:16 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:I won't be happy if the Wolves end up with Markannen, but I don't want a PG either. This is kind of the worst case scenario for the Wolves with Isaac going 5th.

Why don't you want Markkanen? He feels like exactly what Minnesota needs. A big man who they can pair with Towns who can shoot from distance and space the floor for their other talented scorers. Rubio/Dunn, LaVine/Shabazz, Wiggins, Markkanen, Towns looks pretty good to me.

Our biggest weakness is defense and Markannen seems condemned to being poor defender. And just in general I think I would avoid bigs who are poor defenders.

Cammo101 · Post #146 » by **Cammo101** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:08 pm

Worm Guts wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:I won't be happy if the Wolves end up with Markannen, but I don't want a PG either. This is kind of the worst case scenario for the Wolves with Isaac going 5th.

Why don't you want Markkanen? He feels like exactly what Minnesota needs. A big man who they can pair with Towns who can shoot from distance and space the floor for their other talented scorers. Rubio/Dunn, LaVine/Shabazz, Wiggins, Markkanen, Towns looks pretty good to me.

Our biggest weakness is defense and Markannen seems condemned to being poor defender. And just in general I think I would avoid bigs who are poor defenders.

There's no reason to think he can't be a capable defender at the 4. He's shown the willingness to mix it up on defense. He won't be a great defender though. Honestly I haven't seen a ton of Wolves games this year, but they seem like they should be a decent defensive team with Rubio, Wiggins, and Towns and with Thibs as a coach.

Post #147 » by **Worm Guts** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:17 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:
Why don't you want Markkanen? He feels like exactly what Minnesota needs. A big man who they can pair with Towns who can shoot from distance and space the floor for their other talented scorers. Rubio/Dunn, LaVine/Shabazz, Wiggins, Markkanen, Towns looks pretty good to me.

Our biggest weakness is defense and Markannen seems condemned to being poor defender. And just in general I think I would avoid bigs who are poor defenders.

There's no reason to think he can't be a capable defender at the 4. He's shown the willingness to mix it up on defense. He won't be a great defender though. Honestly I haven't seen a ton of Wolves games this year, but they seem like they should be a decent defensive team with Rubio, Wiggins, and Towns and with Thibs as a coach.

Towns and Wiggins have been terrible defensively, although that may be a function of youth. I'd still rather get Isaac who has better defensive potential but also a capable jump shot, which covers 2 of our bigger issues.

Cammo101 · Post #148 » by **Cammo101** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:45 pm

Worm Guts wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:
Our biggest weakness is defense and Markannen seems condemned to being poor defender. And just in general I think I would avoid bigs who are poor defenders.

There's no reason to think he can't be a capable defender at the 4. He's shown the willingness to mix it up on defense. He won't be a great defender though. Honestly I haven't seen a ton of Wolves games this year, but they seem like they should be a decent defensive team with Rubio, Wiggins, and Towns and with Thibs as a coach.

Towns and Wiggins have been terrible defensively, although that may be a function of youth. I'd still rather get Isaac who has better defensive potential but also a capable jump shot, which covers 2 of our bigger issues.

Makes sense.

Mich3006 · Post #149 » by **Mich3006** » Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:14 am

Mikal Bridges undrafted?!?!

Cammo101 · Post #150 » by **Cammo101** » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:50 pm

Ayatollah wrote:Mikal Bridges undrafted?!?!

He hasn't declared and even if he does, I doubt he'd stay in this draft.

Norm2953 · Post #151 » by **Norm2953** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:42 am

Cammo101 wrote:
Norm2953 wrote:How far up the board can Portland get from a package of 20,26 for I'd love Portland to
get a solid backup center to play behind Nurkic who has missed 20+ games each season
in his first 3 seasons and a front court upgrade from Aminu/Harkless.

It's hard to say, but my guess is not very far. Not a lot of teams clamoring to move down a few spots to add a late 1st. That's why Portland's best bet is to take the center with their lotto pick (Allen, Anigbogu, or Patton presumably) and then worry about their other needs later.

I'm getting to think this is going to be a draft with likely no elite talents but with 3 tier 1 players who will be solid,
above average NBA starters followed by a second tier of players who will be quality pros. I really think the value in
this draft is the large group of 30 or so players who be drafted in the late lottery to the early second round. These
guys will be playing a lot of rotation minutes for I see a lot of value in those guys you mock going in the second round.

skywalker33 · Post #152 » by **skywalker33** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:55 pm

Personally think the Nuggets would be looking at defenders, so I see them selecting OG Anunoby at 13 and Thornwell with one of their 2nds should it fall the way you predict

They_Them_Hatin · Post #153 » by **They_Them_Hatin** » Mon May 1, 2017 6:29 am

I think Monk is the most likely of the group to fall. Would love to have him at 11. What's a good Terrance Ferguson comp?

Cammo101 · Post #154 » by **Cammo101** » Wed May 3, 2017 3:38 pm

ntsap wrote:I think Monk is the most likely of the group to fall. Would love to have him at 11. What's a good Terrance Ferguson comp?

JR Smith

They_Them_Hatin · Post #155 » by **They_Them_Hatin** » Wed May 3, 2017 8:18 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
ntsap wrote:I think Monk is the most likely of the group to fall. Would love to have him at 11. What's a good Terrance Ferguson comp?

JR Smith

Meh I think we should pass then. Really need a 3 and d shooting guard in between Kemba and Batum. This draft doesn't seem like we will find one. Any SG you see breaking out in workouts/combine?

Cammo101 · Post #156 » by **Cammo101** » Thu May 4, 2017 1:36 am

ntsap wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:
ntsap wrote:I think Monk is the most likely of the group to fall. Would love to have him at 11. What's a good Terrance Ferguson comp?

JR Smith

Meh I think we should pass then. Really need a 3 and d shooting guard in between Kemba and Batum. This draft doesn't seem like we will find one. Any SG you see breaking out in workouts/combine?

Donovan Mitchell certainly could. He has the talent and athleticism to move up in the workout portion.

MotownMadness · Post #157 » by **MotownMadness** » Thu May 4, 2017 1:45 am

Cammo101 wrote:
ntsap wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:
JR Smith

Meh I think we should pass then. Really need a 3 and d shooting guard in between Kemba and Batum. This draft doesn't seem like we will find one. Any SG you see breaking out in workouts/combine?

Donovan Mitchell certainly could. He has the talent and athleticism to move up in the workout portion.

I love Mitchell, don't know why he's going under the radar. He's short but he's got a huge wingspan with good defense. If his shot and playmaking develops more he could be a really solid player.

Cammo101 · Post #158 » by **Cammo101** » Wed May 10, 2017 6:54 pm

5/10/17

1. Boston - Markelle Fultz (6'4'', PG, Washington, Fresh.)
2. Phoenix - Josh Jackson (6'8'', SF, Kansas, Fresh.)
3. LA Lakers - Lonzo Ball (6'5'', PG, UCLA, Fresh.)
4. Philadelphia - De'Aaron Fox (6'4'', PG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
5. Orlando - Jayson Tatum (6'8'', SF, Duke, Fresh.)
6. Minnesota - Lauri Markkanen (7'0'', PF, Arizona, Fresh.)
7. New York - Dennis Smith (6'2'', PG, North Carolina State, Fresh.)
8. Sacramento - Jonathan Isaac (6'10'', SF, Florida State, Fresh.)
9. Dallas - Frank Ntilikina (6'4'', PG, France)
10. Sacramento - Zach Collins (7'0'', C, Gonzaga, Fresh.)
11. Charlotte - Malik Monk (6'3'', SG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
12. Detroit - Justin Jackson (6'8'', SF, North Carolina, Jr.)
13. Denver - Terrance Ferguson (6'7'', SG, Australia)
14. Miami - TJ Leaf (6'10'', PF, UCLA, Fresh.)
15. Portland - Jarrett Allen (6'10'', C, Texas, Fresh.)
16. Chicago - Justin Patton (7'0'', C, Creighton, Fresh.)
17. Milwaukee - Donovan Mitchell (6'4'', SG, Louisville, Soph.)
18. Indiana - John Collins (6'10'', PF, Wake Forest, Soph.)
19. Atlanta - Ike Anigbogu (6'10'', C, UCLA, Fresh.)
20. Portland - OG Anunoby (6'8'', SF, Indiana, Soph.)
21. Oklahoma City - Ivan Rabb (6'10'', PF, California, Soph.)
22. Brooklyn - Jawun Evans (6'1'', PG, Oklahoma State, Soph.)
23. Toronto - Rodions Kurucs (6'8'', SF, Latvia)
24. Utah - Luke Kennard (6'5'', SG, Duke, Soph.)
25. Orlando - Hamidou Diallo (6'6'', SG, High School/Kentucky)
26. Portland - Isaiah Hartenstein (6'11'', PF, Germany)
27. Brooklyn - Harry Giles (6'10'', PF, Duke, Fresh.)
28. LA Lakers - Bam Adebayo (6'10'', C, Kentucky, Fresh.)
29. San Antonio - Anzejs Pasecniks (7'2'', C, Latvia)
30. Utah - DJ Wilson (6'10'', PF, Michigan, Soph.)

31. Atlanta - PJ Dozier (6'6'', SG, South Carolina, Soph.)
32. Phoenix - Tony Bradley (6'10'', C, North Carolina, Fresh.)
33. Orlando - Tyler Lydon (6'9'', PF, Syracuse, Soph.)
34. Sacramento - Kostja Mushidi (6'5'', SG, Belgium)
35. Orlando - Thomas Bryant (7'0'', C, Indiana, Soph.)
36. Philadelphia - Josh Hart (6'6'', SG, Villanova, Sr.)
37. Boston - Jonathan Jeanne (7'1'', C, France)
38. Chicago - Semi Ojeleye (6'7'', SF, SMU, Jr.)
39. Philadelphia - Johnathan Motley (6'10'', PF, Baylor, Jr.)
40. New Orleans - Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk (6'8'', SF, Kansas, Jr.)
41. Charlotte - Caleb Swanigan (6'9'', PF, Purdue, Soph.)
42. Utah - Mathias Lessort (6'9'', PF, Martinique)
43. Houston - Omer Yurtseven (7'0'', C, North Carolina State, Fresh.)
44. New York - Sindarius Thornwell (6'5'', SG, South Carolina, Sr.)
45. Houston - Frank Mason (5'11'', PG, North Carolina, Sr.)
46. Philadelphia - Jaron Blossomgame (6'7'', SF, Clemson, Sr.)
47. Indiana - Kobi Simmons (6'4'', PG, Arizona, Fresh.)
48. Milwaukee - Jonah Bolden (6'10'', PF, Australia)
49. Denver - Jordan Bell (6'8'', PF, Oregon, Jr.)
50. Philadelphia - Alpha Kaba (6'10'', C, France)
51. Denver - Viny Okouo (7'2'', C, Congo)
52. Washington - Alec Peters (6'9'', PF, Valparaiso, Sr.)
53. Boston - Cameron Oliver (6'8'', PF, Nevada, Soph.)
54. Phoenix - Dwayne Bacon (6'7'', SG, Florida State, Soph.)
55. Utah - Nigel Williams-Goss (6'3'', PG, Gonzaga, Jr.)
56. Boston - Borisa Simanic (6'10'', PF, Serbia)
57. Brooklyn - Dillon Brooks (6'6'', SF, Oregon, Jr.)
58. New York - Trevon Bluiett (6'7'', SF, Xavier, Jr.)
59. San Antonio - Monte Morris (6'3'', PG, Iowa State, Sr.)
60. Atlanta - Edmond Sumner (6'5'', SG, Xavier, Soph.)

Goldbum · Post #159 » by **Goldbum** » Mon May 15, 2017 6:14 pm

Great job again Cammo. Love that draft for Portland.

Cammo101 · Post #160 » by **Cammo101** » Mon May 15, 2017 8:54 pm

Goldbum wrote:Great job again Cammo. Love that draft for Portland.

Thanks. Portland is in a great spot as their needs match up really well with the top players available where they are picking.