2017 Mock Lottery brought to you by dorkestra

dorkestra · Post #1 » by **dorkestra** » Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:20 pm

1 - Philadelphia 76ers - Markelle Fultz - PG/SG - Washington
2 - Dallas Mavericks - Lonzo Ball - PG - UCLA
3 - Minnesota Timberwolves - Josh Jackson - SF - Kansas
4 - Boston Celtics (via Brooklyn Nets) - Dennis Smith - PG - NC State
5 - New Orleans Pelicans - Jonathan Isaac - SF - Florida State
6 - Miami Heat - Frank Ntlikina - PG - Strasbourg
7 - Phoenix Suns - OG Anunoby - SF - Indiana
8 - Sacramento Kings - Harry Giles - PF - Duke
9 - Denver Nuggets - Lauri Markkanen - PF - Arizona
10 - Philadelphia 76ers (via Los Angeles Lakers) - Malik Monk - SG - Kentucky
11 - Orlando Magic - Jayson Tatum - SF - Duke
12 - Washington Wizards - Miles Bridges - SF/PF - Michigan State
13 - Milwaukee Bucks - De'Aaron Fox - PG - Kentucky
14 - Indiana Pacers - Ivan Rabb - PF - California

dorkestra · Post #2 » by **dorkestra** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:31 pm

1 - Boston Celtics (via Brooklyn Nets) - Markelle Fultz - PG/SG - Washington
2 - Los Angeles Lakers - Lonzo Ball - PG - UCLA
3 - Phoenix Suns - Josh Jackson - SF - Kansas
4 - Miami Heat - Dennis Smith - PG - NC State
5 - Dallas Mavericks - Frank Ntlikina - PG - Strasbourg
6 - Minnesota Timberwolves - Jonathan Isaac - SF - Florida State
7 - Orlando Magic - Jayson Tatum - SF - Duke
8 - Philadelphia 76ers - Malik Monk - SG - Kentucky
9 - New Orleans Pelicans - Lauri Markkanen - PF - Arizona
10 - Sacramento Kings - De'Aaron Fox - PG - Kentucky
11 - Portland Trailblazers - Harry Giles - PF - Duke
12 - New York Knicks - Isaiah Hartenstein - PF - Zalgiris
13 - Detroit Pistons - Ivan Rabb - PF - California
14 - Milwaukee Bucks - Jarrett Allen - C Texas

dorkestra · Post #3 » by **dorkestra** » Wed Feb 1, 2017 6:47 pm

1 - Boston Celtics (via Brooklyn Nets) - Markelle Fultz - PG/SG - Washington
2 - Phoenix Suns - Josh Jackson - SF - Kansas
3 - Los Angeles Lakers - Lonzo Ball - PG - UCLA
4 - Dallas Mavericks - Dennis Smith - PG - NC State
5 - Orlando Magic - Jayson Tatum - SF - Duke
6 - Philadelphia 76ers - Malik Monk - SG - Kentucky
7 - Sacramento Kings - Jonathan Isaac - SF - Florida State
8 - New Orleans Pelicans - De'Aaron Fox - PG - Kentucky
9 - Miami Heat - Lauri Markkanen - PF - Arizona
10 - Minnesota Timberwolves - OG Anunoby - SF - Indiana
11 - New York Knicks - Frank Ntlikina - PG - Strasbourg
12 - Detroit Pistons - Isaiah Hartenstein - PF - Zalgiris
13 - Portland Trailblazers - Justin Patton - C - Creighton
14 - Milwaukee Bucks - Ivan Rabb - PF - California

M-C-G · Post #4 » by **M-C-G** » Wed Feb 1, 2017 7:42 pm

dorkestra wrote:1 - Boston Celtics (via Brooklyn Nets) - Markelle Fultz - PG/SG - Washington
2 - Phoenix Suns - Josh Jackson - SF - Kansas
3 - Los Angeles Lakers - Lonzo Ball - PG - UCLA
4 - Dallas Mavericks - Dennis Smith - PG - NC State
5 - Orlando Magic - Jayson Tatum - SF - Duke
6 - Philadelphia 76ers - Malik Monk - SG - Kentucky
7 - Sacramento Kings - Jonathan Isaac - SF - Florida State
8 - New Orleans Pelicans - De'Aaron Fox - PG - Kentucky
9 - Miami Heat - Lauri Markkanen - PF - Arizona
10 - Minnesota Timberwolves - OG Anunoby - SF - Indiana
11 - New York Knicks - Frank Ntlikina - PG - Strasbourg
12 - Detroit Pistons - Isaiah Hartenstein - PF - Zalgiris
13 - Portland Trailblazers - Justin Patton - C - Creighton
14 - Milwaukee Bucks - Ivan Rabb - PF - California

Not sure Rabb makes much sense for the Bucks. I'd probably roll with BAM and hope you have your center position locked down for the next 5 years between him and Maker. I'm hoping Hartenstein (to play at center) or one of the PG drops.

CalL · Post #5 » by **CalL** » Wed Feb 1, 2017 9:19 pm

M-C-G wrote:
dorkestra wrote:1 - Boston Celtics (via Brooklyn Nets) - Markelle Fultz - PG/SG - Washington
2 - Phoenix Suns - Josh Jackson - SF - Kansas
3 - Los Angeles Lakers - Lonzo Ball - PG - UCLA
4 - Dallas Mavericks - Dennis Smith - PG - NC State
5 - Orlando Magic - Jayson Tatum - SF - Duke
6 - Philadelphia 76ers - Malik Monk - SG - Kentucky
7 - Sacramento Kings - Jonathan Isaac - SF - Florida State
8 - New Orleans Pelicans - De'Aaron Fox - PG - Kentucky
9 - Miami Heat - Lauri Markkanen - PF - Arizona
10 - Minnesota Timberwolves - OG Anunoby - SF - Indiana
11 - New York Knicks - Frank Ntlikina - PG - Strasbourg
12 - Detroit Pistons - Isaiah Hartenstein - PF - Zalgiris
13 - Portland Trailblazers - Justin Patton - C - Creighton
14 - Milwaukee Bucks - Ivan Rabb - PF - California

Not sure Rabb makes much sense for the Bucks. I'd probably roll with BAM and hope you have your center position locked down for the next 5 years between him and Maker. I'm hoping Hartenstein (to play at center) or one of the PG drops.

You serious? As a Bucks fan you should pray that your FO doesnt pick Hartenstein. Its not sure whether he will ever be able to play center at NBA level and it will definitely take him at least two years before he can play at that level without being a liability. I think even Giles would be a better choice if you are really looking for a center.

CalL · Post #6 » by **CalL** » Wed Feb 1, 2017 9:21 pm

dorkestra wrote:1 - Boston Celtics (via Brooklyn Nets) - Markelle Fultz - PG/SG - Washington
2 - Phoenix Suns - Josh Jackson - SF - Kansas
3 - Los Angeles Lakers - Lonzo Ball - PG - UCLA
4 - Dallas Mavericks - Dennis Smith - PG - NC State
5 - Orlando Magic - Jayson Tatum - SF - Duke
6 - Philadelphia 76ers - Malik Monk - SG - Kentucky
7 - Sacramento Kings - Jonathan Isaac - SF - Florida State
8 - New Orleans Pelicans - De'Aaron Fox - PG - Kentucky
9 - Miami Heat - Lauri Markkanen - PF - Arizona
10 - Minnesota Timberwolves - OG Anunoby - SF - Indiana
11 - New York Knicks - Frank Ntlikina - PG - Strasbourg
12 - Detroit Pistons - Isaiah Hartenstein - PF - Zalgiris
13 - Portland Trailblazers - Justin Patton - C - Creighton
14 - Milwaukee Bucks - Ivan Rabb - PF - California

So why did Ntilikina drop from 5th to 11th in less than a weak, despite just recently having his best game in quiet a while ... ?

M-C-G · Post #7 » by **M-C-G** » Wed Feb 1, 2017 9:24 pm

CalL wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
dorkestra wrote:1 - Boston Celtics (via Brooklyn Nets) - Markelle Fultz - PG/SG - Washington
2 - Phoenix Suns - Josh Jackson - SF - Kansas
3 - Los Angeles Lakers - Lonzo Ball - PG - UCLA
4 - Dallas Mavericks - Dennis Smith - PG - NC State
5 - Orlando Magic - Jayson Tatum - SF - Duke
6 - Philadelphia 76ers - Malik Monk - SG - Kentucky
7 - Sacramento Kings - Jonathan Isaac - SF - Florida State
8 - New Orleans Pelicans - De'Aaron Fox - PG - Kentucky
9 - Miami Heat - Lauri Markkanen - PF - Arizona
10 - Minnesota Timberwolves - OG Anunoby - SF - Indiana
11 - New York Knicks - Frank Ntlikina - PG - Strasbourg
12 - Detroit Pistons - Isaiah Hartenstein - PF - Zalgiris
13 - Portland Trailblazers - Justin Patton - C - Creighton
14 - Milwaukee Bucks - Ivan Rabb - PF - California

Not sure Rabb makes much sense for the Bucks. I'd probably roll with BAM and hope you have your center position locked down for the next 5 years between him and Maker. I'm hoping Hartenstein (to play at center) or one of the PG drops.

You serious? As a Bucks fan you should pray that your FO doesnt pick Hartenstein. Its not sure whether he will ever be able to play center at NBA level and it will definitely take him at least two years before he can play at that level without being a liability. I think even Giles would be a better choice if you are really looking for a center.

Yeah, I like the skill set and read enough on DX that his defense there should be solid, but I'll admit that my "scouting" seldom goes deeper than checking out guys on DX. Physically and athletically he seems like he should be solid there but I'd like to know more about him if you wouldn't mind elaborating a bit.

dorkestra · Post #8 » by **dorkestra** » Wed Feb 1, 2017 9:31 pm

CalL wrote:
dorkestra wrote:1 - Boston Celtics (via Brooklyn Nets) - Markelle Fultz - PG/SG - Washington
2 - Phoenix Suns - Josh Jackson - SF - Kansas
3 - Los Angeles Lakers - Lonzo Ball - PG - UCLA
4 - Dallas Mavericks - Dennis Smith - PG - NC State
5 - Orlando Magic - Jayson Tatum - SF - Duke
6 - Philadelphia 76ers - Malik Monk - SG - Kentucky
7 - Sacramento Kings - Jonathan Isaac - SF - Florida State
8 - New Orleans Pelicans - De'Aaron Fox - PG - Kentucky
9 - Miami Heat - Lauri Markkanen - PF - Arizona
10 - Minnesota Timberwolves - OG Anunoby - SF - Indiana
11 - New York Knicks - Frank Ntlikina - PG - Strasbourg
12 - Detroit Pistons - Isaiah Hartenstein - PF - Zalgiris
13 - Portland Trailblazers - Justin Patton - C - Creighton
14 - Milwaukee Bucks - Ivan Rabb - PF - California

So why did Ntilikina drop from 5th to 11th in less than a weak, despite just recently having his best game in quiet a while ... ?

Change in team standings, teams that need PG, and talent parity between 5 and 11.

CalL · Post #9 » by **CalL** » Wed Feb 1, 2017 9:46 pm

M-C-G wrote:
CalL wrote:
M-C-G wrote:

Not sure Rabb makes much sense for the Bucks. I'd probably roll with BAM and hope you have your center position locked down for the next 5 years between him and Maker. I'm hoping Hartenstein (to play at center) or one of the PG drops.

You serious? As a Bucks fan you should pray that your FO doesnt pick Hartenstein. Its not sure whether he will ever be able to play center at NBA level and it will definitely take him at least two years before he can play at that level without being a liability. I think even Giles would be a better choice if you are really looking for a center.

Yeah, I like the skill set and read enough on DX that his defense there should be solid, but I'll admit that my "scouting" seldom goes deeper than checking out guys on DX. Physically and athletically he seems like he should be solid there but I'd like to know more about him if you wouldn't mind elaborating a bit.

We had a bit of a discussion about him recently in an other thread:
viewtopic.php?p=51452248#p51452248

I could provide you with some more recent highlights of him (PM) if you are interested ... ?

M-C-G · Post #10 » by **M-C-G** » Wed Feb 1, 2017 9:48 pm

CalL wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
CalL wrote:
You serious? As a Bucks fan you should pray that your FO doesnt pick Hartenstein. Its not sure whether he will ever be able to play center at NBA level and it will definitely take him at least two years before he can play at that level without being a liability. I think even Giles would be a better choice if you are really looking for a center.

Yeah, I like the skill set and read enough on DX that his defense there should be solid, but I'll admit that my "scouting" seldom goes deeper than checking out guys on DX. Physically and athletically he seems like he should be solid there but I'd like to know more about him if you wouldn't mind elaborating a bit.

We had a bit of a discussion about him recently in an other thread:
viewtopic.php?p=51452248#p51452248

I could provide you with some more recent highlights of him (PM) if you are interested ... ?

I'll take a look, been a guy I have been wanting to know more about but haven't seen a ton of stuff on him. Thanks

dorkestra · Post #11 » by **dorkestra** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:35 am

1 - Boston Celtics (via Brooklyn Nets) - Markelle Fultz - PG/SG - Washington
2 - Phoenix Suns - Josh Jackson - SF - Kansas
3 - Los Angeles Lakers - Lonzo Ball - PG - UCLA
4 - Orlando Magic - Dennis Smith - PG - NC State
5 - Dallas Mavericks - Jonathan Isaac - SF/PF - Florida State
6 - Philadelphia 76ers - Malik Monk - SG - Kentucky
7 - New York Knicks - Jayson Tatum - SF - Duke
8 - Sacramento Kings (via New Orleans Pelicans) - De'Aaron Fox - PG - Kentucky
9 - Minnesota Timberwolves - Lauri Markkanen - PF - Arizona
10 - Charlotte Hornets - Frank Ntlikina - PG/SG - Strasbourg
11 - Portland Trailblazers - Robert Williams - PF/C - Texas A&M
12 - Chicago Bulls (via Sacramento Kings) - Miles Bridges - SF/PF - Michigan State
13 - Milwaukee Bucks - Justin Patton - C - Creighton
14 - Miami Heat - John Collins - PF - Wake Forest

dorkestra · Post #12 » by **dorkestra** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:42 am

1 - Boston Celtics (via Brooklyn Nets) - Markelle Fultz - PG/SG - Washington - 6'4 - 195
2 - Los Angeles Lakers - Josh Jackson - SF - Kansas - 6'8 - 203
3 - Phoenix Suns - Jayson Tatum - SF - Duke - 6'8 - 204
4 - Philadelphia 76ers - Dennis Smith - PG - NC State - 6'3 - 195
5 - Orlando Magic - Lonzo Ball - PG - UCLA - 6'6 - 190
6 - Sacramento Kings - Lauri Markkanen - PF/C - Arizona - 7'0 - 225
7 - New York Knicks - Jonathan Isaac - SF/PF - Florida State - 6'11 - 205
8 - Sacramento Kings (via New Orleans Pelicans) - De'Aaron Fox - PG - Kentucky - 6'4 - 171
9 - Minnesota Timberwolves - Miles Bridges - SF/PF - Michigan State - 6'6 - 226
10 - Dallas Mavericks - Frank Ntlikina - PG/SG - Strasbourg - 6'5 - 170
11 - Portland Trailblazers - Malik Monk - SG - Kentucky - 6'4 - 197
12 - Charlotte Hornets - Justin Jackson - SG/SF - North Carolina - 6'8 - 193
13 - Chicago Bulls - Robert Williams - PF/C - Texas A&M - 6'9 - 237
14 - Miami Heat - Harry Giles - PF - Duke - 6'11 - 222

dorkestra · Post #13 » by **dorkestra** » Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:58 am

1 - Boston Celtics (via Brooklyn Nets) - Josh Jackson - SF - Kansas - 6'8 - 203
2 - Los Angeles Lakers - Lonzo Ball - PG - UCLA - 6'6 - 190
3 - Phoenix Suns - Markelle Fultz - PG/SG - Washington - 6'4 - 195
4 - Orlando Magic - Jayson Tatum - SF - Duke - 6'8 - 204
5 - Philadelphia 76ers - Dennis Smith - PG - NC State - 6'3 - 195
6 - New York Knicks - Malik Monk - SG/PG - Kentucky - 6'4 - 197
7 - Sacramento Kings - Jonathan Isaac - SF/PF - Florida State - 6'11 - 205
8 - Minnesota Timberwolves - Miles Bridges - SF/PF - Michigan State - 6'6 - 226
9 - Sacramento Kings (via New Orleans Pelicans) - De'Aaron Fox - PG - Kentucky - 6'4 - 171
10 - Dallas Mavericks - Lauri Markkanen - PF/C - Arizona - 7'0 - 225
11 - Charlotte Hornets - Frank Ntlikina - PG/SG - Strasbourg - 6'5 - 170
12 - Detroit Pistons - Justin Jackson - SG/SF - North Carolina - 6'8 - 193
13 - Denver Nuggets - Robert Williams - PF/C - Texas A&M - 6'9 - 237
14 - Chicago Bulls - Jarrett Allen - C - Texas - 6'11 - 224

Post #14 » by **GimmeDat** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:00 am

Fultz to 3? Ballsy. I disagree, but respect it. I'm not completely sold on Justin Jackson as a lottery pick either, but it is a trending opinion it seems. Otherwise I think you're pretty spot on all around.

Btw, Robert Williams is going back to college.

dorkestra · Post #15 » by **dorkestra** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:34 am

GimmeDat wrote:Fultz to 3? Ballsy. I disagree, but respect it. I'm not completely sold on Justin Jackson as a lottery pick either, but it is a trending opinion it seems. Otherwise I think you're pretty spot on all around.

Btw, Robert Williams is going back to college.

Thanks - sometimes as a result of having done quite a few mocks, I end up wanting to be a little different and put something out like this. I can envision a scenario in which Fultz goes third, although it would be a surprise.

I wasn't on the Justin Jackson train but if he can concentrate on being a guy who is constantly running around screens and making cuts , there is a high demand for catch and shoot players who don't need to pound the rock to get their offense. I agree I've probably been victim to the momentum of his rise.

And good point on Robert Williams. I'll need to correct that.