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Pacers Currently Planning On Keeping Paul George 

Post#1 » by RealGM Wiretap » Wed Jun 7, 2017 3:33 pm

While Paul George is one season away from free agency, the Indiana Pacers currently are planning on not entertaining trade offers for him this offseason.


George is believed to prefer to sign with the Los Angeles Lakers if he doesn't remain with the Pacers, which is preventing all parties from offering Indiana enough to part with him.


"I don't think, at least from my information, that the Pacers are interested in trading Paul George. At least not right now," said Brian Windhorst.


"I heard the same thing this week from someone who would know," said Zach Lowe. "And it sort of surprised me. I think we all assumed when Larry (Bird) stepped down and (Kevin Pritchard) stepped in and the writing is on the wall for what's going to happen there.


"The most recent thing I heard is that they're going to try to regroup and get a couple of better players around him and make a run at keeping him."


"I actually heard the same," said Ramona Shelburne.

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Post#2 » by KobeBryant24 » Wed Jun 7, 2017 3:54 pm

About to get PG for free
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Post#3 » by ebrian » Wed Jun 7, 2017 4:09 pm

This plan is also known as "How to not be competitive for the next 5 years".
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Post#4 » by Boneman2 » Wed Jun 7, 2017 4:42 pm

ebrian wrote:This plan is also known as "How to not be competitive for the next 5 years".


The Pacers had 4 new starters next to PG this season as a result they lost a "competitive" series to Cleveland. With PG, Stephenson and Teague entering their primes, and Turner another year developed, the team will certainly improve.


KobeBryant24 wrote:About to get PG for free


He won't go to LA only to team up with Moz and Deng :lol:
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Post#5 » by KobeBryant24 » Wed Jun 7, 2017 4:46 pm

Boneman2 wrote:
ebrian wrote:This plan is also known as "How to not be competitive for the next 5 years".


The Pacers had 4 new starters next to PG this season as a result they lost a "competitive" series to Cleveland. With PG, Stephenson and Teague entering their primes, and Turner another year developed, the team will certainly improve.


KobeBryant24 wrote:About to get PG for free


He won't go to LA only to team up with Moz and Deng :lol:



Whos he playing with on the pacers?
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Post#6 » by Boneman2 » Wed Jun 7, 2017 4:47 pm

KobeBryant24 wrote:
Boneman2 wrote:
ebrian wrote:This plan is also known as "How to not be competitive for the next 5 years".


The Pacers had 4 new starters next to PG this season as a result they lost a "competitive" series to Cleveland. With PG, Stephenson and Teague entering their primes, and Turner another year developed, the team will certainly improve.


KobeBryant24 wrote:About to get PG for free


He won't go to LA only to team up with Moz and Deng :lol:



Whos he playing with on the pacers?


Not Moz and Deng
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Post#7 » by FNQ » Wed Jun 7, 2017 4:51 pm

When an article like this comes out, pre-draft, confirming that the Pacers are planning on keeping PG.. they are basically announcing they are open for business but arent willing to go discount.

I think it behooves the Pacers to make the trade - not because of the threat of PG leaving for LA, I don't buy that at all - but because they are currently stuck with a team that probably has a cap on it due to not having flexibility or significant assets to improve. My bet is that PG sticks with whatever team he ends next season on.
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Post#8 » by tocooks101 » Wed Jun 7, 2017 4:58 pm

FNQ wrote:When an article like this comes out, pre-draft, confirming that the Pacers are planning on keeping PG.. they are basically announcing they are open for business but arent willing to go discount.



So, by that logic, if they announce they are trading him, they are keeping him? This article definitely does not mean they are open for business.

Try not to overthink these articles, at the end of the day no one knows except the front office, especially in a situation like this.
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Post#9 » by FNQ » Wed Jun 7, 2017 5:01 pm

tocooks101 wrote:
FNQ wrote:When an article like this comes out, pre-draft, confirming that the Pacers are planning on keeping PG.. they are basically announcing they are open for business but arent willing to go discount.



So, by that logic, if they announce they are trading him, they are keeping him? This article definitely does not mean they are open for business.

Try not to overthink these articles, at the end of the day no one knows except the front office, especially in a situation like this.


No. 4 divided by 1 does not equal 1 divided by 4, that's not good logic.

When its being leaked to multiple reporters that the Pacers are trying to keep PG13 before the draft, there's an angle. There's always an angle. And being open for business is not the same as going to trade him.

If they were really, truly dead set on keeping him, there's no reason to tell reporters that. Silence keeps PG's name out of the news.
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Post#10 » by tocooks101 » Wed Jun 7, 2017 5:41 pm

FNQ wrote:
tocooks101 wrote:
FNQ wrote:When an article like this comes out, pre-draft, confirming that the Pacers are planning on keeping PG.. they are basically announcing they are open for business but arent willing to go discount.



So, by that logic, if they announce they are trading him, they are keeping him? This article definitely does not mean they are open for business.

Try not to overthink these articles, at the end of the day no one knows except the front office, especially in a situation like this.


No. 4 divided by 1 does not equal 1 divided by 4, that's not good logic.

When its being leaked to multiple reporters that the Pacers are trying to keep PG13 before the draft, there's an angle. There's always an angle. And being open for business is not the same as going to trade him.

If they were really, truly dead set on keeping him, there's no reason to tell reporters that. Silence keeps PG's name out of the news.


4 divided by 1 is a math equation, not an example of logic.

Sometimes silence is not an option, so im curious, in your mind, when asked that question what would be the answer if they were actually intending to keep him?

Because according to you, saying they are not looking to trade him means they are, and saying they are trading him, also means they are. Please explain.
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Post#11 » by Patsfan1081 » Wed Jun 7, 2017 5:43 pm

Boneman2 wrote:
ebrian wrote:This plan is also known as "How to not be competitive for the next 5 years".


The Pacers had 4 new starters next to PG this season as a result they lost a "competitive" series to Cleveland. With PG, Stephenson and Teague entering their primes, and Turner another year developed, the team will certainly improve.


KobeBryant24 wrote:About to get PG for free


He won't go to LA only to team up with Moz and Deng :lol:


They will improve, but most eastern teams will imorove a lot more. Boston, Washington, Milly, ect.. all have more younger talent and assets. Indy lost their chance to trade George at the deadline when teams would get two playoff runs out of him. Now no team outside maybe L.A. will give up good assets for a expiring contract with such heavy rumors around them being unwilling to sign an expiring extension.
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Post#12 » by The_Hater » Wed Jun 7, 2017 6:10 pm

Boneman2 wrote:
ebrian wrote:This plan is also known as "How to not be competitive for the next 5 years".


The Pacers had 4 new starters next to PG this season as a result they lost a "competitive" series to Cleveland. With PG, Stephenson and Teague entering their primes, and Turner another year developed, the team will certainly improve.

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I don't see Stephenson or a resigned Teague helping the Pacers improve next season and Monte Ellis certainly isn't. The key to that team improving is Turner who could develop into an allstar. Nothing short of Turner taking a big jump will be enough to surpass the top 4-5 teams in the east next season IMO. Milawaukee definitely isn't going backwards.
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Post#13 » by FNQ » Wed Jun 7, 2017 7:51 pm

tocooks101 wrote:
FNQ wrote:
tocooks101 wrote:
So, by that logic, if they announce they are trading him, they are keeping him? This article definitely does not mean they are open for business.

Try not to overthink these articles, at the end of the day no one knows except the front office, especially in a situation like this.


No. 4 divided by 1 does not equal 1 divided by 4, that's not good logic.

When its being leaked to multiple reporters that the Pacers are trying to keep PG13 before the draft, there's an angle. There's always an angle. And being open for business is not the same as going to trade him.

If they were really, truly dead set on keeping him, there's no reason to tell reporters that. Silence keeps PG's name out of the news.


4 divided by 1 is a math equation, not an example of logic.

Sometimes silence is not an option, so im curious, in your mind, when asked that question what would be the answer if they were actually intending to keep him?

Because according to you, saying they are not looking to trade him means they are, and saying they are trading him, also means they are. Please explain.


This is basic PR. No comment. Making a comment, and having several different reporters echo the sentiment, is not what a team who's definitely keeping PG would do. Again, this is PR. Keep PG's name in the news. Silence is ABSOLUTELY an option. Do you know how many athletes have been interviewed in our own clinic? No comment is probably the most common phrase in any interview. Or just flat out telling them they refuse to answer any questions about X.

As for the math equation, you are the one who used a transitive property line of logic to something that's not math. So...
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Post#14 » by tocooks101 » Wed Jun 7, 2017 8:21 pm

FNQ wrote:
tocooks101 wrote:
FNQ wrote:
No. 4 divided by 1 does not equal 1 divided by 4, that's not good logic.

When its being leaked to multiple reporters that the Pacers are trying to keep PG13 before the draft, there's an angle. There's always an angle. And being open for business is not the same as going to trade him.

If they were really, truly dead set on keeping him, there's no reason to tell reporters that. Silence keeps PG's name out of the news.


4 divided by 1 is a math equation, not an example of logic.

Sometimes silence is not an option, so im curious, in your mind, when asked that question what would be the answer if they were actually intending to keep him?

Because according to you, saying they are not looking to trade him means they are, and saying they are trading him, also means they are. Please explain.


This is basic PR. No comment. Making a comment, and having several different reporters echo the sentiment, is not what a team who's definitely keeping PG would do. Again, this is PR. Keep PG's name in the news. Silence is ABSOLUTELY an option. Do you know how many athletes have been interviewed in our own clinic? No comment is probably the most common phrase in any interview. Or just flat out telling them they refuse to answer any questions about X.

As for the math equation, you are the one who used a transitive property line of logic to something that's not math. So...




I get what youre saying, and maybe in some front offices you are correct(Kings come to mind), but not in Indiana. Pacers issued a similar statement before PG signed his extension last time, and the trade deadline this year, both times they followed through proving your theory utterly incorrect.
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Post#15 » by FNQ » Wed Jun 7, 2017 8:28 pm

tocooks101 wrote:
FNQ wrote:
tocooks101 wrote:
4 divided by 1 is a math equation, not an example of logic.

Sometimes silence is not an option, so im curious, in your mind, when asked that question what would be the answer if they were actually intending to keep him?

Because according to you, saying they are not looking to trade him means they are, and saying they are trading him, also means they are. Please explain.


This is basic PR. No comment. Making a comment, and having several different reporters echo the sentiment, is not what a team who's definitely keeping PG would do. Again, this is PR. Keep PG's name in the news. Silence is ABSOLUTELY an option. Do you know how many athletes have been interviewed in our own clinic? No comment is probably the most common phrase in any interview. Or just flat out telling them they refuse to answer any questions about X.

As for the math equation, you are the one who used a transitive property line of logic to something that's not math. So...




I get what youre saying, and maybe in some front offices you are correct(Kings come to mind), but not in Indiana. Pacers issued a similar statement before PG signed his extension last time, and the trade deadline this year, both times they followed through proving your theory utterly incorrect.


How it can be utterly incorrect? Read my initial statement and every one after - they are open for business. That does not indicate a trade is guaranteed. It simply keeps Paul George's name in the news cycle and re-affirms that there is no PG fire sale. And if they were certain they wanted to keep him and were going to rebuff any trade offers, they have absolutely no reason to privately talk to any reporters and indicate that they are going to keep him.

This is how FOs use media outlets. Its most likely that its not a coincidence that we're hearing more about the Pacers keeping PG13 in a couple weeks before the draft. Its not for bad FOs, its not for good FOs, its for all FOs
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Post#16 » by tocooks101 » Wed Jun 7, 2017 8:40 pm

FNQ wrote:
tocooks101 wrote:
FNQ wrote:
This is basic PR. No comment. Making a comment, and having several different reporters echo the sentiment, is not what a team who's definitely keeping PG would do. Again, this is PR. Keep PG's name in the news. Silence is ABSOLUTELY an option. Do you know how many athletes have been interviewed in our own clinic? No comment is probably the most common phrase in any interview. Or just flat out telling them they refuse to answer any questions about X.

As for the math equation, you are the one who used a transitive property line of logic to something that's not math. So...




I get what youre saying, and maybe in some front offices you are correct(Kings come to mind), but not in Indiana. Pacers issued a similar statement before PG signed his extension last time, and the trade deadline this year, both times they followed through proving your theory utterly incorrect.


How it can be utterly incorrect? Read my initial statement and every one after - they are open for business. That does not indicate a trade is guaranteed. It simply keeps Paul George's name in the news cycle and re-affirms that there is no PG fire sale. And if they were certain they wanted to keep him and were going to rebuff any trade offers, they have absolutely no reason to privately talk to any reporters and indicate that they are going to keep him.

This is how FOs use media outlets. Its most likely that its not a coincidence that we're hearing more about the Pacers keeping PG13 in a couple weeks before the draft. Its not for bad FOs, its not for good FOs, its for all FOs


"They are open for business" is not a valid point, every team is always open for business, as they are businesses.

It seemed like you were hinting that this article made it more likely the Pacers were looking to trade PG, if this is not the case, and you were indeed just stating the obvious that "a business is a business", then ok.
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Post#17 » by Joshumitsu » Wed Jun 7, 2017 9:21 pm

Smoke screens are definitely a tactic Kevin Pritchard loves to employ.

Obviously, Indiana will do whatever they can to persuade PG to stay. But by leaking this now, they can nab more assets by teams who think they can just walk in and acquire PG for cheap as they've set a precedent on what they want ahead of the draft/offseason.
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Post#18 » by LakersLegacy » Wed Jun 7, 2017 9:59 pm

Great news for the Lakers who hope to sign him in free agency in 1 year. Now we need the young guys to break out. New trainers and skill coaches are on it.

George is working out w/ Kobe next week. Hope that goes well.
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Post#19 » by ebrian » Wed Jun 7, 2017 11:08 pm

Boneman2 wrote:
ebrian wrote:This plan is also known as "How to not be competitive for the next 5 years".


The Pacers had 4 new starters next to PG this season as a result they lost a "competitive" series to Cleveland. With PG, Stephenson and Teague entering their primes, and Turner another year developed, the team will certainly improve.


The 5 years would begin after next season, when Paul George walks away for nothing. That team is not making the playoffs no matter how good you think Teague will be in his "prime".
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Re: Pacers Currently Planning On Keeping Paul George 

Post#20 » by YoungTrece » Wed Jun 7, 2017 11:53 pm

Your out of your mind if you think the pacers aren't making the playoffs next year. But as a pacers fan I don't think he is as gone as the media wants you to believe.

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