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Post#61 » by patagonia » Sat Mar 4, 2017 9:33 pm

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patagonia wrote:Team made some big improvements over the winter and looked good in the preseason. Maybe no wooden spoon this year?


They should have a much better season, but I still don't see them making the playoffs.

Though it's MLS, so anything can happen.


Draw on the road is not a bad start.
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Post#62 » by LittleOzzy » Sun Mar 5, 2017 2:54 pm

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patagonia wrote:Team made some big improvements over the winter and looked good in the preseason. Maybe no wooden spoon this year?


They should have a much better season, but I still don't see them making the playoffs.

Though it's MLS, so anything can happen.


Draw on the road is not a bad start.


How did Chicago look yesterday?
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Post#63 » by patagonia » Sun Mar 5, 2017 5:17 pm

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They should have a much better season, but I still don't see them making the playoffs.

Though it's MLS, so anything can happen.


Draw on the road is not a bad start.


How did Chicago look yesterday?


Missed a bunch of the game but in the beginning they were giving up a lot o changes. definitely looked a bit better in the second. still a long ways to go but better than last year.
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Post#64 » by LittleOzzy » Sun Mar 5, 2017 8:16 pm

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Draw on the road is not a bad start.


How did Chicago look yesterday?


Missed a bunch of the game but in the beginning they were giving up a lot o changes. definitely looked a bit better in the second. still a long ways to go but better than last year.


To be fair almost anything would be better, haha.
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Post#65 » by LittleOzzy » Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:25 pm

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Post#66 » by TyrusRose2425 » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:30 pm

BS signing should be announced soon
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Post#67 » by LittleOzzy » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:35 pm

TyrusRose2425 wrote:BS signing should be announced soon


Chicago Fire taking a huge risk by signing Bastian Schweinsteiger

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The Chicago Fire made some late breaking news on Monday night when the Chicago Tribune reported that the club had signed Bastian Schweinsteiger. An official announcement is expected this week, and Schweinsteiger will join the Fire immediately.

On its face, this sounds like a good thing. The Fire, one of the worst teams in MLS over the last decade, has picked up a World Cup and Champions League winner with serious name recognition. But when you dive into the details, his signing doesn’t look particularly wise.


http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2017/3/21/14995568/bastian-schweinsteiger-chicago-fire-mls-contract-salary
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Post#68 » by M_1 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:41 pm

Schweinsteiger is one of my favourite Players of all time. He's also a Basketballfan and will probably be Seen in the United Center rooting for Zipser quite a few times.


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Post#69 » by SimonFish » Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:31 am

Yeah Paul Zipser is probably the main reason why Schweinsteiger signed.
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Post#70 » by PANDEMONEUM » Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:47 am

what is Schweinsteigers' main position or role?
at his peak performance, and has it changed recently?

why has he fallen from top form, at still a good age?

do we think the Fire will play all 3 of theyr new mids at the same time?

4-1-4-1 or 4-2-3-1 or 4-1-2-3 which can easily switch to the 4-1-4-1

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Post#71 » by Spens1 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:46 am

he could play anywhere from CDM to CAM really. I mean he's probably more a CM right now but despite falling off a bit he's still going to be great for the MLS, well above Lampard or even Pirlo right now at least.

The Fire at least may be able to fill out Toyota Park at least.

Anyway what is the wage he's coming in on? I'd imagine it would still be a hefty amount of money.
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Post#72 » by LittleOzzy » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:47 am

Spens1 wrote:he could play anywhere from CDM to CAM really. I mean he's probably more a CM right now but despite falling off a bit he's still going to be great for the MLS, well above Lampard or even Pirlo right now at least.

The Fire at least may be able to fill out Toyota Park at least.

Anyway what is the wage he's coming in on? I'd imagine it would still be a hefty amount of money.


4.5 Million I believe. A lot of money for MLS.
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Post#73 » by Spens1 » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:52 am

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Spens1 wrote:he could play anywhere from CDM to CAM really. I mean he's probably more a CM right now but despite falling off a bit he's still going to be great for the MLS, well above Lampard or even Pirlo right now at least.

The Fire at least may be able to fill out Toyota Park at least.

Anyway what is the wage he's coming in on? I'd imagine it would still be a hefty amount of money.


4.5 Million I believe. A lot of money for MLS.


But it isn't the highest though, didn't Keane get paid about 6 mill, and isn't Kaka and the city trio on more.

4.5 mill doesn't seem like that bad of a deal.
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Post#74 » by LittleOzzy » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:54 am

Spens1 wrote:
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Spens1 wrote:he could play anywhere from CDM to CAM really. I mean he's probably more a CM right now but despite falling off a bit he's still going to be great for the MLS, well above Lampard or even Pirlo right now at least.

The Fire at least may be able to fill out Toyota Park at least.

Anyway what is the wage he's coming in on? I'd imagine it would still be a hefty amount of money.


4.5 Million I believe. A lot of money for MLS.


But it isn't the highest though, didn't Keane get paid about 6 mill, and isn't Kaka and the city trio on more.

4.5 mill doesn't seem like that bad of a deal.


It's not bad at all. Though I don't think he'll have the same impact as the other players above.

I'm actually happy when teams spend in MLS. The cap needs to go up so the league can keep improving.
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Post#75 » by Spens1 » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:57 am

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4.5 Million I believe. A lot of money for MLS.


But it isn't the highest though, didn't Keane get paid about 6 mill, and isn't Kaka and the city trio on more.

4.5 mill doesn't seem like that bad of a deal.


It's not bad at all. Though I don't think he'll have the same impact as the other players above.

I'm actually happy when teams spend in MLS. The cap needs to go up so the league can keep improving.


but doesn't the designated player allowance help with that (not exactly sure how that works though but from what i understand, each team gets 3 and it depends on age also).

Also is their a certain amount of domestic players that you need to have? That could mean overpaid local players which is not a good thing if they aren't worth that kind of money.
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Post#76 » by LittleOzzy » Thu Mar 23, 2017 1:17 am

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LittleOzzy wrote:
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But it isn't the highest though, didn't Keane get paid about 6 mill, and isn't Kaka and the city trio on more.

4.5 mill doesn't seem like that bad of a deal.


It's not bad at all. Though I don't think he'll have the same impact as the other players above.

I'm actually happy when teams spend in MLS. The cap needs to go up so the league can keep improving.


but doesn't the designated player allowance help with that (not exactly sure how that works though but from what i understand, each team gets 3 and it depends on age also).

Also is their a certain amount of domestic players that you need to have? That could mean overpaid local players which is not a good thing if they aren't worth that kind of money.


Each team gets three designated players that don't count against the salary cap. And yes they have a separate rule for younger DP's though I don't really fully understand all the stipulations. MLS often has a hard time explaining their own rules, haha.

Here are some major points of the MLS rules and regulations for the 2017 season.

A team's roster can be made up of up to 28 players . They are eligible to be selected to the 18-player team for each game.
The salary cap will be $3.845 million per team, not counting the extra salary of designated players. Players in the first 20 roster spots will count against the cap.
The maximum salary for any one player is $480,625.
A designated player counts $480,625 against a team's cap. However, if a player joins his team in the middle of the season, the charge against the budget will be $240,312.
Players who are in the roster spots from 21-28 will not count against a team's cap. They will be known as off-budget players. Those in roster spots from 21–24 must be a senior minimum salary player (at least $65,000 salary - up from $62,500 in 2016) or Generation adidas player, and those in slots 25–28 must be a reserve minimum salary player (at least $53,000 - up from $51,500 in 2016). Additionally, those who earn the lowest possible league salary must be 24 or younger during the 2017 calendar year.

Since the 2012 season, the cap number for international designated players has depended on the players' ages. Since the 2013 season, players 20 or younger have counted $150,000 against the cap and those age 21 to 23 have counted $200,000, with older players remaining at the standard cap number ($368,750 for 2013, $387,500 for 2014, $436,250 for 2015, $457,500 for 2016, and $480,625 for 2017). For the purpose of determining a cap number, the player's age is determined solely by his year of birth.
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Post#77 » by Spens1 » Thu Mar 23, 2017 1:20 am

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It's not bad at all. Though I don't think he'll have the same impact as the other players above.

I'm actually happy when teams spend in MLS. The cap needs to go up so the league can keep improving.


but doesn't the designated player allowance help with that (not exactly sure how that works though but from what i understand, each team gets 3 and it depends on age also).

Also is their a certain amount of domestic players that you need to have? That could mean overpaid local players which is not a good thing if they aren't worth that kind of money.


Each team gets three designated players that don't count against the salary cap. And yes they have a separate rule for younger DP's though I don't really fully understand all the stipulations. MLS often has a hard time explaining their own rules, haha.

Here are some major points of the MLS rules and regulations for the 2017 season.

A team's roster can be made up of up to 28 players . They are eligible to be selected to the 18-player team for each game.
The salary cap will be $3.845 million per team, not counting the extra salary of designated players. Players in the first 20 roster spots will count against the cap.
The maximum salary for any one player is $480,625.
A designated player counts $480,625 against a team's cap. However, if a player joins his team in the middle of the season, the charge against the budget will be $240,312.
Players who are in the roster spots from 21-28 will not count against a team's cap. They will be known as off-budget players. Those in roster spots from 21–24 must be a senior minimum salary player (at least $65,000 salary - up from $62,500 in 2016) or Generation adidas player, and those in slots 25–28 must be a reserve minimum salary player (at least $53,000 - up from $51,500 in 2016). Additionally, those who earn the lowest possible league salary must be 24 or younger during the 2017 calendar year.

Since the 2012 season, the cap number for international designated players has depended on the players' ages. Since the 2013 season, players 20 or younger have counted $150,000 against the cap and those age 21 to 23 have counted $200,000, with older players remaining at the standard cap number ($368,750 for 2013, $387,500 for 2014, $436,250 for 2015, $457,500 for 2016, and $480,625 for 2017). For the purpose of determining a cap number, the player's age is determined solely by his year of birth.


thats a really small cap. I'd say it should be going up from that to at least 6 million and the max salary without Designation should be higher
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Post#78 » by Det the Threat » Sat Apr 1, 2017 7:29 pm

Schweini scores in his first MLS game.
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Post#79 » by Det the Threat » Sat Apr 1, 2017 9:03 pm

Another crazy finish to an MLS game but that second goal of Montreal was a joke by the Fire keeper.

Schweinsteiger's still slow as fu** but his passing was clearly above anyone else on the pitch.
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Post#80 » by LittleOzzy » Sun Apr 2, 2017 12:40 am

Schweinsteiger was great, Chicago was not.

Poor game overall from both sides to be honest, but Schweinsteiger made it entertaining.

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