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Post#41 » by aporel18 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:05 pm

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aceking79 wrote:46 on Efes today. Impressive!


That team is ridiculous. Bourousis finally delivered for my fantasy challenge as well. Real are so deep, they were using him as a fouling post stopper prior, ala Jason Collins :oops:


Well, if you're on the same team with great offensive players like Rudy, Sergio, Llull, Carroll or Mirotic it's not easy to get shots. But the really special thing is how good they're this year on defense. Last year they had all those shooters, and they were quite good on the boards, but this year they're shutting down the opposition. Credit Slaughter, Draper, but also Mirotic, Carroll(!) and Bourousis.

Right now, they have a big advantage on teams like Barcelona or Fenerbahce, still trying to build chemistry, or CSKA with a struggling Messina, in that they're a real team in their 3rd year together with Coach Laso. As the season advances, things will even up, but right now they're beasting on the ACB and Euroleague.

The scary though is, Bourousis is still clicking with the team. He's a quality player and a veteran pro, so he's got it very quickly, but he has good room for improvement. And Dani Díez and Mejri are still very raw, those blowouts allow Coach Laso to give them some minutes and if they can improve their game and contribute that team will be even better by February.
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Re: Euroleague Game Thread 

Post#42 » by UcanUwill » Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:52 pm

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Well, if you're on the same team with great offensive players like Rudy, Sergio, Llull, Carroll or Mirotic it's not easy to get shots.


Bou is all skill, and he is the best rebounder in Europe, he doesn't need many shots to be effective. But you know, that team is so damn deep, they can allow themselves experiment like that, put a star big in a 10 minute trash role, and don't miss a thing. Its quite astonishing.
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Post#43 » by Mirotic12 » Fri May 19, 2017 9:09 am

2017 EuroLeague Final Four semifinals are today.

The first semifinal is

CSKA Moscow versus Olympiacos Piraeus

The second semifinal is

Real Madrid versus Fenerbahce Istanbul
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Post#44 » by burek3 » Fri May 19, 2017 12:06 pm

CSKA 70%
Real 50%

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Post#45 » by BoardCrusher » Fri May 19, 2017 2:39 pm

I will not make any predictions, but I hope RM wins as I like their style of BBall the most plus im a big supporter of Doncic.

Did a small bet of 100 eur, CSKA win + Doncic scores more then 6.5 pts. Will see how it goes :)
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Post#46 » by UcanUwill » Fri May 19, 2017 4:36 pm

BoardCrusher wrote:I will not make any predictions, but I hope RM wins as I like their style of BBall the most plus im a big supporter of Doncic.

Did a small bet of 100 eur, CSKA win + Doncic scores more then 6.5 pts. Will see how it goes :)


Thats a damn good bet. Wanted to put some on CSKA as well, but I really hate cheering for that team, so I did nothing. Kinda regret not putting something on Real win. We will see how it goes.
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Post#47 » by yannisk » Fri May 19, 2017 6:31 pm

Olympiakos as usual beat CSKA in the semifinal

It is the fourth time now in the last five years
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Post#48 » by BoardCrusher » Fri May 19, 2017 7:22 pm

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BoardCrusher wrote:I will not make any predictions, but I hope RM wins as I like their style of BBall the most plus im a big supporter of Doncic.

Did a small bet of 100 eur, CSKA win + Doncic scores more then 6.5 pts. Will see how it goes :)


Thats a damn good bet. Wanted to put some on CSKA as well, but I really hate cheering for that team, so I did nothing. Kinda regret not putting something on Real win. We will see how it goes.


well bet didnt go to well, kinda unreal CSKA stoped playing after they dominated for 3 quarters
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Post#49 » by Gibson22 » Fri May 19, 2017 7:53 pm

DONCIC WHAT ARE YOU DOING
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Post#50 » by UcanUwill » Sun May 21, 2017 10:58 am

BoardCrusher wrote:I will not make any predictions, but I hope RM wins as I like their style of BBall the most plus im a big supporter of Doncic.

Did a small bet of 100 eur, CSKA win + Doncic scores more then 6.5 pts. Will see how it goes :)


Turned out to be a bad bet after all. I am taking a huge gamble and betting on Olympiacos today (3.5).
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Post#51 » by burek3 » Sun May 21, 2017 12:09 pm

Boy, was I wrong. Real looked so helpless it was almost embarrassing to watch. It was Real 20% at best. Doncic collapsed under pressure. Loss is totally on Lasso's back.

Surprised by CSKA. DeDosic double choke, very weird game. But hats off to OLY for the fight.

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Post#52 » by burek3 » Sun May 21, 2017 6:52 pm

Wow, yet another game where Real played like elementary schoolgirls O_o

At this rate, they have about 15% to be home league champs even.
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Post#53 » by baldur » Sun May 21, 2017 7:50 pm

congratulations to Fenerbahce. flawless post-season performance.
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Post#54 » by Kings2013 » Sun May 21, 2017 8:30 pm

Bogdanovic, I eagerly anticipate his pro career
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Post#55 » by Mirotic12 » Sun May 21, 2017 11:00 pm

Kings2013 wrote:Bogdanovic, I eagerly anticipate his pro career


He's already started his pro career. What do you mean? Or are you saying leagues like Turkish League and EuroLeague are not professional?

Anyway, EuroLeague must stop making home teams at Final Fours - either that or the final four must go. It was ridiculous in 2015 with Real at home and again this time.

None of the other teams stood any chance at all in 2 of the last 3 final fours, playing against home teams. EuroLeague really needs to cut that out, or the final four is going to totally lose any luster it once had. Both of those semifinals and finals in 2015 and this year that involved the home teams were almost impossible to watch, they were so one-sided.
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Post#56 » by baldur » Mon May 22, 2017 2:06 am

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Kings2013 wrote:Bogdanovic, I eagerly anticipate his pro career


He's already started his pro career. What do you mean? Or are you saying leagues like Turkish League and EuroLeague are not professional?

Anyway, EuroLeague must stop making home teams at Final Fours - either that or the final four must go. It was ridiculous in 2015 with Real at home and again this time.

None of the other teams stood any chance at all in 2 of the last 3 final fours, playing against home teams. EuroLeague really needs to cut that out, or the final four is going to totally lose any luster it once had. Both of those semifinals and finals in 2015 and this year that involved the home teams were almost impossible to watch, they were so one-sided.


your argument is invalid. Real madrid was the favourite that year. And Fenerbahce was the second biggest favourite for the title after Cska this season. Not to mention, Final four city is determined before the competition starts. So no team is favoured.
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Post#57 » by yannisk » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:26 pm

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Mirotic12 wrote:
Kings2013 wrote:Bogdanovic, I eagerly anticipate his pro career


He's already started his pro career. What do you mean? Or are you saying leagues like Turkish League and EuroLeague are not professional?

Anyway, EuroLeague must stop making home teams at Final Fours - either that or the final four must go. It was ridiculous in 2015 with Real at home and again this time.

None of the other teams stood any chance at all in 2 of the last 3 final fours, playing against home teams. EuroLeague really needs to cut that out, or the final four is going to totally lose any luster it once had. Both of those semifinals and finals in 2015 and this year that involved the home teams were almost impossible to watch, they were so one-sided.


your argument is invalid. Real madrid was the favourite that year. And Fenerbahce was the second biggest favourite for the title after Cska this season. Not to mention, Final four city is determined before the competition starts. So no team is favoured.


Real Madrid was favorite and was playing at home, the same for Fener. To give an nba example you could predetermine that the 2018 nba finals would take place in Cleveland. Not very fair is it? and home court advantage is bigger in Europe.

Of course the final 4 has to happen somewhere so you could have some team with advantage anyway (especially if the venue is in Russia, Spain or Greece that almost always have a participant). But it would be more fair if the venue was following a pattern so no final4 happens very often in the same city/country. last final4 in Greece was in 2007 and you had 3 finals in Spain after that (2008, 2011, 2015) two in Berlin (2009, 2016) two in Istanbul (2012, 2017).

Russia had only one final4 in the last 30 years. I am sure CSKA would love to have the opportunities other teams get to play the final at home. A little more variety wouldn't harm.
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Post#58 » by baldur » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:04 pm

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Mirotic12 wrote:
He's already started his pro career. What do you mean? Or are you saying leagues like Turkish League and EuroLeague are not professional?

Anyway, EuroLeague must stop making home teams at Final Fours - either that or the final four must go. It was ridiculous in 2015 with Real at home and again this time.

None of the other teams stood any chance at all in 2 of the last 3 final fours, playing against home teams. EuroLeague really needs to cut that out, or the final four is going to totally lose any luster it once had. Both of those semifinals and finals in 2015 and this year that involved the home teams were almost impossible to watch, they were so one-sided.


your argument is invalid. Real madrid was the favourite that year. And Fenerbahce was the second biggest favourite for the title after Cska this season. Not to mention, Final four city is determined before the competition starts. So no team is favoured.


Real Madrid was favorite and was playing at home, the same for Fener. To give an nba example you could predetermine that the 2018 nba finals would take place in Cleveland. Not very fair is it? and home court advantage is bigger in Europe.

Of course the final 4 has to happen somewhere so you could have some team with advantage anyway (especially if the venue is in Russia, Spain or Greece that almost always have a participant). But it would be more fair if the venue was following a pattern so no final4 happens very often in the same city/country. last final4 in Greece was in 2007 and you had 3 finals in Spain after that (2008, 2011, 2015) two in Berlin (2009, 2016) two in Istanbul (2012, 2017).

Russia had only one final4 in the last 30 years. I am sure CSKA would love to have the opportunities other teams get to play the final at home. A little more variety wouldn't harm.


What kind of example is that? EuroLeague is an international competition whereas the nba is national, in which European domestic league, the location of the finals is predetermined? Use some logic first. Second, it is quite normal that choosing a city/country which has some basketball culture and team competing in EuroLeague in order not to organise the final four in front of the empty seats. Do you understand my points?
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Post#59 » by yannisk » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:40 pm

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your argument is invalid. Real madrid was the favourite that year. And Fenerbahce was the second biggest favourite for the title after Cska this season. Not to mention, Final four city is determined before the competition starts. So no team is favoured.


Real Madrid was favorite and was playing at home, the same for Fener. To give an nba example you could predetermine that the 2018 nba finals would take place in Cleveland. Not very fair is it? and home court advantage is bigger in Europe.

Of course the final 4 has to happen somewhere so you could have some team with advantage anyway (especially if the venue is in Russia, Spain or Greece that almost always have a participant). But it would be more fair if the venue was following a pattern so no final4 happens very often in the same city/country. last final4 in Greece was in 2007 and you had 3 finals in Spain after that (2008, 2011, 2015) two in Berlin (2009, 2016) two in Istanbul (2012, 2017).

Russia had only one final4 in the last 30 years. I am sure CSKA would love to have the opportunities other teams get to play the final at home. A little more variety wouldn't harm.


What kind of example is that? EuroLeague is an international competition whereas the nba is national, in which European domestic league, the location of the finals is predetermined? Use some logic first. Second, it is quite normal that choosing a city/country which has some basketball culture and team competing in EuroLeague in order not to organise the final four in front of the empty seats. Do you understand my points?


The point is that it has to be fair, I hope you can understand that, it's not that difficult.
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Post#60 » by baldur » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:15 pm

yannisk wrote:
baldur wrote:
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Real Madrid was favorite and was playing at home, the same for Fener. To give an nba example you could predetermine that the 2018 nba finals would take place in Cleveland. Not very fair is it? and home court advantage is bigger in Europe.

Of course the final 4 has to happen somewhere so you could have some team with advantage anyway (especially if the venue is in Russia, Spain or Greece that almost always have a participant). But it would be more fair if the venue was following a pattern so no final4 happens very often in the same city/country. last final4 in Greece was in 2007 and you had 3 finals in Spain after that (2008, 2011, 2015) two in Berlin (2009, 2016) two in Istanbul (2012, 2017).

Russia had only one final4 in the last 30 years. I am sure CSKA would love to have the opportunities other teams get to play the final at home. A little more variety wouldn't harm.


What kind of example is that? EuroLeague is an international competition whereas the nba is national, in which European domestic league, the location of the finals is predetermined? Use some logic first. Second, it is quite normal that choosing a city/country which has some basketball culture and team competing in EuroLeague in order not to organise the final four in front of the empty seats. Do you understand my points?


The point is that it has to be fair, I hope you can understand that, it's not that difficult.


it was in my response. you cant organize such a big event in front of empty seats in an irrelevant non-basketball lover country.

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