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Hornets Sign Lance Stephenson 3y/27.5 mil (p67)

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Re: Hornets Sign Lance Stephenson 3y/27.5 mil (p67) 

Post#1961 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:32 pm

PacerNation24 wrote:So the goal is to turn Lance into a 3 pt shooter in Charlotte? That doesn't sound like the best use of his talent and abilities to me.


Heh, there as a reason the Hornets went after Hayward first. Perimeter shooting is a huge need for this team. Part of that is MKG and part is Cliff's system which favors outside shooters to surround Al.

But that said my expectation is that Lance will be relied on to improve scoring overall not just 3 point shooting. If the D sags off him then he should shoot, drive, or pass as seems best. He will probably start most possession outside the 3 point line, but that's not where he's going end all or even most of them IMHO.
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Re: Hornets Sign Lance Stephenson 3y/27.5 mil (p67) 

Post#1962 » by HornetJail » Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:08 pm

PacerNation24 wrote:
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PacerNation24 wrote:So the goal is to turn Lance into a 3 pt shooter in Charlotte? That doesn't sound like the best use of his talent and abilities to me.


why is pacer nation guy trolling the hornets forum so hard? have fun with Rodney stuckey and cj miles next year man. look at your favorite teams why are you even on their forum lol??

p.s. paul George is NOT a superstar, hes wildly inefficient and cant lead for anything, without david west you guys would've been sunk by demarre carrol and mike scott in the first round lol

paul George is nothing more than a pacer version of rudy gay aka not a superstar, to make the claim that one is a superstar he has to make the people around him better.... ya know kinda like how lance was your best distributor and penetrator. come on man just stop

I was asking a question about how Lance was going to fit in here.... Is that trolling now? If it is, a mod can ask me to stop and i will leave, but I don't see how that is trolling. If I wasn't a Pacers fan, you wouldn't have a problem with me asking that question, but since i am a Pacers fan, it apparently is trolling.

You're fine bro, you're not trolling.

But I don't think the goal is to make Lance a three-point shooter, I think the goal is to use Lance's ability to create for himself and others, next to Kemba's ability to create for himself and others, and Big Al's ability to create for himself and sometimes others to spread out the floor. We've got Mark Price helping MKG out with his jumper. There's no doubt in mind he'll be working with Kemba, Hendo, and Lance as well, to a lesser extent to try to make them more consistent shooters, but I wouldn't expect to see Lance anymore than "respectable" from 3 just yet. I don't think it will be his main weapon anytime soon.
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Re: Hornets Sign Lance Stephenson 3y/27.5 mil (p67) 

Post#1963 » by LofJ » Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:16 pm

The good thing about Lance in comparison to Henderson is that he actually takes 3 pointers. Hendo is allergic to them, as we all know.
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Re: Hornets Sign Lance Stephenson 3y/27.5 mil (p67) 

Post#1964 » by InProblematique » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:47 am

LofJ wrote:The good thing about Lance in comparison to Henderson is that he actually takes 3 pointers. Hendo is allergic to them, as we all know.

I'm a huge Hendo fan...I'm really, really hoping we keep him around this season, as I think he'd be a great leader for the second unit as the sixth man. Solid scorer, good defense on the wing, high energy, high character, and leadership.

But yes, I agree. Even with his improvement from long-range, he still passes up way too many open threes. I imagine if he had taken many of those shots he passed up, he could have averaged aroun 37% from range. It's too bad.

I'm hoping spacing will help Lance get a lot of space to shot threes. It's not his strong point, but he's not bad, either. And he actually had a higher PPP on three-pointers when he actually had a hand in his face, as opposed to wide open shots. I think that was kind of a fluke last season, and I think he'll benefit from open threes. And like you said, he's not afraid to shoot them.

I was majorly against signing Lance this offseason. I thought for sure we'd have to offer up at least a 4/48 contract to grab him. So his contract loosened my apprehensions a bit. As did the fact that his teammates do seem genuinely bummed to see him leave, and the fact that MJ laid down the law on him pretty hard the night they met. His press conference was also good. It makes me believe that Lance, while a part of Indy's locker room, may not have been the focal point of the issues. I think he may have just been caught in the swirl of the whole fiasco.

I will never, ever forgive him for some of the things he did in the past, and I know that the stairway assault charges were dropped, but we live in a guilty until proven innocent society, and while I wish I had the ability to think differently, I don't. I think it's almost certain that he pushed that girl down the stairs. And the groping thing was proven. That's **** that had better stay in his past, and it's stuff that I'll never be able to get over, no matter how good he becomes for the team.

But I don't mind (most) of his antics on the court. I actually enjoy them. He has to cool it with the blatant flopping, but the little dances, the fiery competitiveness that got him T'd up (a lot of the techs were stupid, anyway. Especially that one against the Heat where he got thrown out of the game after literally saying nothing to Wade). But like MJ said, there has to be a line drawn. And he can not pass it.

If he stays true to his on-court passion, adds in some character, some fire, and some good scoring, I'm okay with him. If he starts dragging bull into the locker room, if he starts flopping all over the place and looking like a total idiot on the court, or if he starts playing like he's the alpha-dog on the squad instead of running our offense through Al, then I will not be happy.

But I think he understands now that he doesn't have much wiggle room. He signed a VERY team-friendly contract, and knows he has to prove to Charlotte and the rest of the NBA that he's worth max money in three years time. I think he'll work out fine.

Just two cents from a guy who didn't want him here. I'm okay with it now after learning the terms of the contract, hearing about the conversation he had with MJ, Ewing, Cho, and Cliff, and his press conference. I won't be his number one fan, but I'll cheer for him as long as he behaves.
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Re: Hornets Sign Lance Stephenson 3y/27.5 mil (p67) 

Post#1965 » by olive_triangurl » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:01 am

one thing is for sure, Lance will never talk as much trash as Larry Bird did (when Bird was talking trash to Dr.J especially! i saw on youtube lol) :lol:

on ESPN First Take, Stephen A and Skip said that nobody in NBA history talked more trash than Larry Bird :o

BTW, People blame foul-trouble for LeBron only scoring 7 points, but I think Lance's manliness was part of the reason :nod:
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Re: Hornets Sign Lance Stephenson 3y/27.5 mil (p67) 

Post#1966 » by Rajaness » Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:57 am

I love trash talking. It adds another layer of excitement to the game. It's also another tool to help them win. Jordan, miller, and bird were some of the best at trash talking. IMO, I think it drive them to be some of the best ever. It allowed them to channel that energy.


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Re: Hornets Sign Lance Stephenson 3y/27.5 mil (p67) 

Post#1967 » by Bassman » Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:57 am

olive_triangurl wrote:BTW, i wonder if the Pacers would have pushed the Heat to 6 games if Lance stayed silent. People blame foul-trouble for LeBron only scoring 7 points, but I think Lance was part of the reason :nod:


Too much made of the Lance "antics" in the playoffs. Yes they were a bit much, but he was trying to throw LBJ's focus off. Far worse is done in playground ball. I agree it went too far, and I think Lance learned something from it. But, I'm also glad he isn't running for "MR. NBA NICE GUY" as a result. Lance plays with determination and passion. He will learn to manage and channel it more effectively under MJ. THIS will help him become a star.
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Re: Hornets Sign Lance Stephenson 3y/27.5 mil (p67) 

Post#1968 » by LofJ » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:34 pm

What was glossed over when everyone was focusing on Lance's antics is that he completely took Lebron out of game 5. Lebron only played 24 minutes and scored 7 points and Indiana won the game. If those type of antics are what it takes to win then I say play on Lance.
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Re: Hornets Sign Lance Stephenson 3y/27.5 mil (p67) 

Post#1969 » by olive_triangurl » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:39 pm

LofJ wrote:What was glossed over when everyone was focusing on Lance's antics is that he completely took Lebron out of game 5. Lebron only played 24 minutes and scored 7 points and Indiana won the game. If those type of antics are what it takes to win then I say play on Lance.


Exactly its one of the reasons why Lance is my favorite player in the NBA :o
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Re: Hornets Sign Lance Stephenson 3y/27.5 mil (p67) 

Post#1970 » by BigSlam » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:59 pm

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