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Shaw or Snyder As Our Next Head Coach? (new poll)

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Who should the Bobcats hire as coach?

Quin Snyder
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53%
Brian Shaw
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47%
 
Total votes : 34

Re: Shaw or Snyder As Our Next Head Coach? (new poll)

Postby vorbis on Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:46 pm

bobcats3wallace wrote:I found this article from 2008. It's a bit lengthy, but it really gives you a good idea of the kind of person Snyder is. It talks a lot about his downfall in MIssouri and really what he became in the D-league. By no means is it all positive on Snyder, but that's why it's so interesting. For those, like me, who wasn't really familiar with Snyder as a person, outside of his accomplishments or demises, this is an excellent article.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/st ... man/080418

Here is an interesting quote that talks really about his coaching style and coaching comparisons. It seems to me like the guy has changed from his glory seeking, big headed days in Missouri. But the fact he was so self absorbed and big headed in Missouri does worry me some. It does seem his D-league days have humbled him some though.

Here, in a stale gymnasium in a grim part of Austin, there is no fancy -- just intensity. Though a fair number of players come to the D-League to shoot, shoot, shoot and shoot, Snyder runs practices as if he were guiding a college team. He shouts and barks, scoots and scurries, pats behinds and slaps heads. When Barrett drives past Paulino for a slick layup, Snyder screams, "That's what I'm talking about! That's exactly what I'm talking about!" He is part P.J. Carlesimo (the intensity), part Jeff Van Gundy (the attention to detail).

"He's different than any of the other coaches you see here," says Kevin Pittsnogle, the former West Virginia star who played for Austin earlier this year. "Most coaches here are all about my-way-or-the-highway. But Coach Snyder was very detailed, very into his players, very into seeking our input."


very informative read. just in the interest of bandying about positive and negative portrayals of his time at Missouri, here's an exasperated fan talking about how it all fell apart there

http://mizzoufans.blogspot.ca/2006/02/l ... areer.html

I think that particular write-up is pretty damn bitter but it does give a sense of Snyder losing control of the ship a little bit, and the on-court product suffering significantly as a result. Also seems like there was a lot of internal struggle, with players (iffy character, looks like) and assistant coaches (far more interesting IMO).
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Re: Shaw or Snyder As Our Next Head Coach? (new poll)

Postby Sachmo on Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:53 pm

Intrigue is winning me over. I'm starting to back Coach Q.
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Re: Shaw or Snyder As Our Next Head Coach? (new poll)

Postby captaincrunk on Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:54 pm

Sachmo wrote:Intrigue is winning me over. I'm starting to back Coach Q.

Off the court intrigue, sure...
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Re: Shaw or Snyder As Our Next Head Coach? (new poll)

Postby Biz Gilwalker on Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:40 am

fatlever wrote:i voted for christian bale from american psycho. if tyrus gets out of line quin will invite him over to his house, put on some phil collins, do a few lines of coke and then chop up tyrus with an ax.

That would be a pretty effective way to wipe his contract from our books.
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Re: Shaw or Snyder As Our Next Head Coach? (new poll)

Postby BigSlam on Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:41 am

Snyder wasn't exclusively running his own sets during his three years in Austin (because the Spurs bought the Toros for a reason), but he was able to include wrinkles of an intricate offense he's devised while coaching the Toros. Your's truly was never privy to a playbook, unfortunately, but I can tell you that Snyder is an expert when it comes to the plain old pick-and-roll.

Not going to lie - the thought of Kemba and Biz running the P&R excites me.
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Re: Shaw or Snyder As Our Next Head Coach? (new poll)

Postby ohara on Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:54 am

Since we have players coming in tomorrow, I kinda expected to have the next HC named today so he could be there to see them. Not real thrilled with the delay. Hope they are negotiating as we speak and we hear something today.
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Re: Shaw or Snyder As Our Next Head Coach? (new poll)

Postby fatlever on Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:27 am

i find it shocking that no head coach has been announced. its been 3-4 days since they had 2nd interviews with their two remaining candidates. either hire one or set up more interviews. how much internal discussion do they need?
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Re: Shaw or Snyder As Our Next Head Coach? (new poll)

Postby bobcats3wallace on Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:57 pm

fatlever wrote:i find it shocking that no head coach has been announced. its been 3-4 days since they had 2nd interviews with their two remaining candidates. either hire one or set up more interviews. how much internal discussion do they need?


Yeah it is very odd. Kind of makes you wonder if there is something else going on. Like perhaps they are interviewing other candidates but none of the media care about Charlotte so we just don't know? 4 days is a long time from 2nd interviews to decision....especially when your down to just two candidates. Perhaps there is a lot of argument going on between the front office and/or Jordan as to who is the right choice? Perhaps they like Shaw but he won't commit until he sees about Orlando (although I doubt because Cho would likely just say no thank you and move on).

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't hear today. Bonnell said by Wednesday, I wouldn't be surprised if it's Wednesday night before we hear. I have no idea why, but just seems they are trying to delay this as long as possible. It is pretty unorthodox to have a pick as important as 2 and not have a coach in place to watch the workouts. Oh well, we could be Orlando and still not even have a GM for workouts.....
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Re: Shaw or Snyder As Our Next Head Coach? (new poll)

Postby captaincrunk on Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:59 pm

fatlever wrote:i find it shocking that no head coach has been announced. its been 3-4 days since they had 2nd interviews with their two remaining candidates. either hire one or set up more interviews. how much internal discussion do they need?

Maybe they're also talking to the same guys about being assistants and stuff
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Re: Shaw or Snyder As Our Next Head Coach? (new poll)

Postby penquin11 on Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:27 pm

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fatlever wrote:on a scale of 1 to dean smith how bad will the bandwagon UNC bobcat fans freak out if we hire an ex duke player as coach?

Not a bandwagoner, but I don't give a **** who the coach is as long as he does a good job.
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Re: Shaw or Snyder As Our Next Head Coach? (new poll)

Postby bobcats3wallace on Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:37 pm

So since it looks like we won't have a headcoach or a coaching staff for the workouts tomorrow, who runs the workouts? This just seems very odd.
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Re: Shaw or Snyder As Our Next Head Coach? (new poll)

Postby Liver_Pooty on Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:46 pm

I was reading somewhere that Stephen Silas will conduct the workouts.

Makes sense.
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Re: Shaw or Snyder As Our Next Head Coach? (new poll)

Postby fatlever on Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:49 pm

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Re: Shaw or Snyder As Our Next Head Coach? (new poll)

Postby ohara on Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:05 pm

That was my concern. If no HC there for the workouts of players you are considering for #2, it looks bad. Our FO deserves the jokes people will make about them if that happens.
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Re: Shaw or Snyder As Our Next Head Coach? (new poll)

Postby Liver_Pooty on Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:08 pm

Starting to think there is some tension in the front office about who the hire should be. Shouldn't take this long. I'm starting to think Jordan and Cho want two different candidates.
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