Olympics Forum

MaxRider · Post #81 » by **MaxRider** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:16 pm

ColtsFan02 wrote:Has anyone else noticed that China's players and teams seem to be getting favorable treatment? When an American gymnast and a Chinese gymnast had an exact tie on an event the Chinese gymnast got 1st. They said there was a "built in tiebreaker"....not buying it. Also, in womens beach volleyball the China team was ranked #1 in the tournament, but they are ranked #2 in the world behind Team USA....who ironically enough got the #2 seed in the tournament. Just a few observations......

never heard of home court advantage?

for gymnastic that's what you get when different judges are giving scores to different gymnasts, everyone standard is different. About the tiebreak, there were 3 tiebreak on that night, not just the US.

do you even watch sports? does ranking really matter? New England Patriots was ranked #1, but they lost to the NY Giants and got the #2 seed instead.

sh00n · Post #82 » by **sh00n** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:17 pm

Scandalouzzzz wrote:love how the celtic fan finds that funny too you alright man

Don't insult me.

The Raging Bull · Post #83 » by **The Raging Bull** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:54 pm

The problem with the Chinese is that while they are fantastic Gymnasts, they always seem to be favoured a bit by the judges, they don't seem that neutral at all.

sh00n · Post #84 » by **sh00n** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:03 pm

The Raging Bull wrote:The problem with the Chinese is that while they are fantastic Gymnasts, they always seem to be favoured a bit by the judges, they don't seem that neutral at all.

I only notice favoritism with the Chinese in Gymnastics and Diving.

AndreaBustani · Post #85 » by **AndreaBustani** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:08 pm

Jamaica a do nuh linga and sweeeeeeeeeep

tek it to di world, we own the track

sh00n · Post #86 » by **sh00n** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:30 pm

In english, please?

http://www.last.fm/user/DPF55 · Post #87 » by **Buck You** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:04 am

Lol the IOC is investigating the age of a Chinese gymnast and if she is disqualifed Nastia Liukin would win gold in that event(women's uneven parallel bars). Rofl@ the Chinese.

Spalding · Post #88 » by **Spalding** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:25 am

I <3 Usain!! ...haha

Zyme · Post #89 » by **Zyme** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:19 am

Costas just reported that is no surprise to anyone following these games.

Documents have surfaced that has put one of the Chinese women gymnists at 14, 2 under the requirement of 16 years of age. If this were to pass, the Chinese would be left with 3 bronze medals in womens gymnastics. Luken would get the gold, and the US team would get the gold.

vi3t · Post #90 » by **vi3t** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:18 pm

Usain Bolt 3 gold medals, 3 world record, greatest track & field performance ever

Roscoe Sheed · Post #91 » by **Roscoe Sheed** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:19 pm

Man, Delfino looks really good in international play. Why didn't he play like that in the NBA?

dfreshbfresh · Post #92 » by **dfreshbfresh** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:33 pm

They said the gold medal game would be at 2:30pm in China so what time would that be in the U.S?

vi3t · Post #93 » by **vi3t** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:51 pm

sun 2:30 am est

Potterman · Post #94 » by **Potterman** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:29 pm

What channel?

dufflebagjesus · Post #95 » by **dufflebagjesus** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:59 pm

usa did not look good today, but im not sure that spain without calderon can even beat team usa's c game...would have been really interesting if argentina had a healthy ginoboli and nocioni

MaxRider · Post #96 » by **MaxRider** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:15 pm

Zyme wrote:Costas just reported that is no surprise to anyone following these games.

Documents have surfaced that has put one of the Chinese women gymnists at 14, 2 under the requirement of 16 years of age. If this were to pass, the Chinese would be left with 3 bronze medals in womens gymnastics. Luken would get the gold, and the US team would get the gold.

IOC said they are not going to take the medals back if they have evidence anyway.
I don't see the point of age limitation. Olympics is about world greatest athlete. If a 10 years old can beat Michael Phelps now, why not let him do it now? I'm just giving an example.

grond · Post #97 » by **grond** » Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:34 pm

MaxRider wrote:IOC said they are not going to take the medals back if they have evidence anyway.
I don't see the point of age limitation. Olympics is about world greatest athlete. If a 10 years old can beat Michael Phelps now, why not let him do it now? I'm just giving an example.

The olympics are supposed to be about more than just the world's greatest athletes. Strange tho' this view must seem these days.

Also, in general, these sorts of gym routines aren't meant to be so good for l'll kiddies' growing bodies, hence the age restriction(?). Encouraging this is probably not a good thing.

Poor Manu. Gotta feel for him.

MaxRider · Post #98 » by **MaxRider** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:42 am

grond wrote:Also, in general, these sorts of gym routines aren't meant to be so good for l'll kiddies' growing bodies, hence the age restriction(?). Encouraging this is probably not a good thing.

What's the point? You are suppose to start gymnastic when you are young anyway. If they care so much about that might as well cancel the event.

grond · Post #99 » by **grond** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:43 am

MaxRider wrote: You are suppose to start gymnastic when you are young anyway.

I'll take your word for it. But presumably, there's a difference between starting young and performing olympic standard routines in terms of health issues with kiddy growing bodies. Otherwise, there's no logical reason for an age restriction. And given that there is one ... q.e.d.

MaxRider wrote: If they care so much about that might as well cancel the event.

Suits me! Tho' I'm gaining new appreciation for the hitherto ridiculed rythmic gym stuff. It's not much of a sport, but as far as exhibitions go, it's quite impressive.

Next olympics they'll have ballet, f'shizzle.

dacher · Post #100 » by **dacher** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:28 am

MaxRider wrote:What's the point? You are suppose to start gymnastic when you are young anyway. If they care so much about that might as well cancel the event.

(This was going to be short.... but it turned into an essay.)

Right'o. With any competition (in sports or life) kids who want to be the best will start young and be practicing as much as they can (sometimes pushed by parents, sometimes pushed by only themself). Whether it is football, swimming, piano, golf, cheerleading, academics, etc.

For example, Liuken started gymnastics at 3 years old and trains full time in her parents gymnastics club. She was winning junior championships at 14 and 15 years, and would have made the 2004 olympics team if it wasn't for her being underage. That's sad to know Liukin had to watch from home the US get silver in 2004 just because she is 1 year too young, when she was talented enough to be the US champion the following year.

Shawn Johnson was the world all-around champion in 2007 at 15 years old, and was only even allowed to participate because it was one year before the olympic year, when 15 year olds are exempted.

Unfair to gymnasts born in the "wrong" year. If you have gymnastic olympic dreams but will be 15 on an olympic year, you have to wait until you are 19 (Liukin) until you can be in the olympics. That's very discouraging to both the girl, parent and coach -- that's another 4 years to train and wait, overcoming growth spurts and possible injury -- maybe impacting college. The NBC analyst commented how a coach is really lucky to get a promising gymnast who will be 16 in an Olympic year (like Shawn Johnson.)

The age limits are senseless since "underage" gymnasts train for and perform the exact same moves that senior gymnasts perform, but they do it in junior competitions. Top junior gymnasts scores are just as high as top senior gymnasts.