Update:NY going for JJ/Amare/Lebron

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Re: Update:NY going for JJ/Amare/Lebron 

Post#21 » by jzmagik » Sat Jul 3, 2010 2:42 am

Update: SAS on ESPN 1050 is reporting Knicks are waiting on Lebron's committment. If they have that, then JJ and Amare are signing on with the Knicks, JJ through SnT
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Re: NY going for 3 max FAs 

Post#22 » by PlinkingPanda » Sat Jul 3, 2010 2:45 am

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Pandam00nium wrote:Offensively it'll be a good front court, but defensively they'll be non-existent. And yes who exactly is New York going to trade for Bosh? Gallinari and Chandler? LeBron's feces are worth more than that.


I would take Gallo and Chandler for Bosh as it is now.


I guess that's true since he's already committed to leaving. They're nice young talent, but I guess there's just no way of getting good value anymore.
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Re: Update:NY going for JJ/Amare/Lebron 

Post#23 » by AmazingJason » Sat Jul 3, 2010 2:50 am

jzmagik wrote:Update: SAS on ESPN 1050 is reporting Knicks are waiting on Lebron's committment. If they have that, then JJ and Amare are signing on with the Knicks, JJ through SnT


Didn't SAS already guarantee the "dream team" to Miami?
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Re: Update:NY going for JJ/Amare/Lebron 

Post#24 » by Wolves21 » Sat Jul 3, 2010 2:59 am

I don't believe this story for a second,but lets say this does go down,then I would see the rest of the big FA goind down like this.

Knicks-James,Amare,Johnson
Bulls-Wade,Bosh
Nets-Lee,Jefferson
Heat-Boozer
Mavs-Dirk

I don't know if Boozer would still go to the Heat without anyone to play with.But I can't see Pat Riley and company ending up with nothing.If that happend and they were left with Beasley and Chalmers I think Riley and company would have to get fired.Thier's no way he could survive that kind of blow.
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Re: Update:NY going for JJ/Amare/Lebron 

Post#25 » by Lakers05 » Sat Jul 3, 2010 2:59 am

A Bosh and Amare froncourt defensively? With Lebron helping out on the perimeter(usually, it's the bigs who help out the smalls, in this case, it's the reverse). I don't think they'd get expose that much. They'd be a juiced version of the Suns, and we had some trouble against them.
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Re: Update:NY going for JJ/Amare/Lebron 

Post#26 » by miltk » Sat Jul 3, 2010 3:03 am

i mean really,,,is any player or gm or coach going to ever say "the meeting went terribly bad".
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Re: Update:NY going for JJ/Amare/Lebron 

Post#27 » by SpeedyG » Sat Jul 3, 2010 3:03 am

Wolves21 wrote:I don't believe this story for a second,but lets say this does go down,then I would see the rest of the big FA goind down like this.

Knicks-James,Amare,Johnson
Bulls-Wade,Bosh
Nets-Lee,Jefferson
Heat-Boozer
Mavs-Dirk

I don't know if Boozer would still go to the Heat without anyone to play with.But I can't see Pat Riley and company ending up with nothing.If that happend and they were left with Beasley and Chalmers I think Riley and company would have to get fired.Thier's no way he could survive that kind of blow.


How exactly are the Knicks getting three Max guys?
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Re: NY going for 3 max FAs 

Post#28 » by Lakers05 » Sat Jul 3, 2010 3:04 am

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bballcool34 wrote:Yeah, but if Lebron's added to the team---and I doubt all this happens btw--but if it does, that team will be frightening to everyone in the league, even LA.


NY would be more frightened of Bynum/Gasol/Odom than Amare/Bosh/scrub. Amare and Bosh are going to get nothing on the inside, whereas we'll get whatever we want. LeBron and Kobe are going to largely cancel out all things considered, so I don't think LA has to fear that FC. I really don't think that Amare will be as effective because LeBron is simply not a better play-maker than Nash, so he's going to fall off a little.

Anyway, it's not a bad lineup at all, but it doesn't scare me as much as Wade/LeBron/Bosh. Not even close. They would also likely have a very weak bench seeing as how their roster is currently gutted. Who backs up their bigs? Who backs up LeBron? Shooters?

PS: LeBron, Bosh, and Shaq would concern me more than the trio above, that's for sure.


I think you overrate our frontcourt. We could barely handle Amare, imagine now with Bosh and especially Lebron added, they would get in foul trouble very quickly. Lebron not better than Nash at playmaking? I'd say he's twice as dangerous, due to his ability to draw fouls and extremely high stamina.

Bynum would have to be perfectly healthy for us to defend them the way you think, but when will that ever happen.
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Re: Update:NY going for JJ/Amare/Lebron 

Post#29 » by Legendary 33 » Sat Jul 3, 2010 3:07 am

too bad lebron won't go to ny. lol
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Re: Update:NY going for JJ/Amare/Lebron 

Post#30 » by blueNorange » Sat Jul 3, 2010 3:07 am

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jzmagik wrote:Update: SAS on ESPN 1050 is reporting Knicks are waiting on Lebron's committment. If they have that, then JJ and Amare are signing on with the Knicks, JJ through SnT


Didn't SAS already guarantee the "dream team" to Miami?

he said this in the past 24 hours it's changed. if lebron comes to new york then johnson and amare have agreed to take a paycut.

that is if lebron comes.
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Re: Update:NY going for JJ/Amare/Lebron 

Post#31 » by Legendary 33 » Sat Jul 3, 2010 3:14 am

New York's pitch to LeBron:

Walsh: LeBron, you can't go to Chicago.

LeBron: Why not? Chicago is a world-class city and Derrick Rose is a special talent.

Walsh: What about Jordan's shadow? You'll never be better than him, so why go there and play in his shadow? Come to New York and win one title. One title in New York >>>>>> 8 titles in Chicago.

Dan Toni: MECCA!!
Walsh: MECCA!!
KnicksGod: MECCA!!

LeBron: So you're saying I can't ever be better than Jordan?

Walsh: Okay, forget I said that. What about their penny pinching cheap ass owner who low-balled Pippen?

LeBron: Yeah, I guess you're right..

Walsh: Yup, with that being said LeBron..we're prepared to offer you 11.5 million a year so we can sign some other people. Oh, and don't worry, we'll statistically prove how MEECCCCCAAAAAA will make you the first billionaire athlete. Just do it!

LeBron: So you're saying I'll make less than Eddy Curry?

Walsh: Well, yeah, but don't worry we'll trade his expiring contract for Chris Paul. Imagine having 4 superstars to play with?

LeBron: Who's the 4th superstar? There's Amare, me, Chris..who else?

Walsh: the one and only GREAT Danilo Gallinari

LeBron: Who? :lol: That's it..security!!
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Re: Update:NY going for JJ/Amare/Lebron 

Post#32 » by blueNorange » Sat Jul 3, 2010 3:15 am

alan hahn said it was pat riley who threw out rumors the knicks presentation didn't impress lebron

anyone surprised??
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Re: Update:NY going for JJ/Amare/Lebron 

Post#33 » by rmed64 » Sat Jul 3, 2010 3:22 am

There are many Knick haters around
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Re: Update:NY going for JJ/Amare/Lebron 

Post#34 » by Legendary 33 » Sat Jul 3, 2010 3:27 am

:)
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Re: Update:NY going for JJ/Amare/Lebron 

Post#35 » by blueNorange » Sat Jul 3, 2010 3:29 am

Legendary 33 wrote::)

your post is sort of funny, except the final part. i mean it's not like james didn't acknowledge gallinari and told reporters that he told him to work his upper body strength to help his back because he has potential to be good.
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Re: Update:NY going for JJ/Amare/Lebron 

Post#36 » by jzmagik » Sat Jul 3, 2010 3:31 am

blueNorange wrote:alan hahn said it was pat riley who threw out rumors the knicks presentation didn't impress lebron

anyone surprised??


That's right up Rile's alley. Only now, it looks like he may get left in the dust.
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Re: Update:NY going for JJ/Amare/Lebron 

Post#37 » by HootieRules » Sat Jul 3, 2010 3:34 am

So JJ and Amare are taking massive paycuts? Or someone is actually going to take back Eddie Curry's dead carcass? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
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Re: Update:NY going for JJ/Amare/Lebron 

Post#38 » by Legendary 33 » Sat Jul 3, 2010 3:36 am

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Legendary 33 wrote::)

your post is sort of funny, except the final part. i mean it's not like james didn't acknowledge gallinari and told reporters that he told him to work his upper body strength to help his back because he has potential to be good.


Potential to be good? Yes. Potential to be a superstar? Definitely, definitely not. If Gallo was on the Milwaukee Bucks or Memphis Grizzlies, nobody would even mention his name, imo.

He's a good player, but he gets severely overrated.
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Re: Update:NY going for JJ/Amare/Lebron 

Post#39 » by blueNorange » Sat Jul 3, 2010 3:36 am

HootieRules wrote:So JJ and Amare are taking massive paycuts? Or someone is actually going to take back Eddie Curry's dead carcass? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

well as useless as curry may be, him being an expiring makes him actually valuable ... very valuable to some teams who want to get rid of a contract they don't want anymore.
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Re: Update:NY going for JJ/Amare/Lebron 

Post#40 » by SpeedyG » Sat Jul 3, 2010 3:47 am

blueNorange wrote:
HootieRules wrote:So JJ and Amare are taking massive paycuts? Or someone is actually going to take back Eddie Curry's dead carcass? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

well as useless as curry may be, him being an expiring makes him actually valuable ... very valuable to some teams who want to get rid of a contract they don't want anymore.


OOOR...they could just let Joe Johnson go lol. The Knicks aren't getting Joe Johnson without actually compensating the Hawks with something worth of value...to which the Knicks have none except maybe Gallo (if the Hawks decide they want another SF).
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