Dirk Obviously Back With Dallas; Reportedly 3 Year Deal

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Re: Dirk Obviously Back With Dallas; Reportedly 3 Year Deal 

Post#41 » by jtmagic11 » Thu Jul 3, 2014 9:35 pm

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Frank Dux wrote:It's amazing that Dirk, Duncan, and Kobe are still on their original teams. Bodes well for their legacy IMO.


Kobe is on Charlotte?


Yes, like Dirk is on Milwaukee. Come on man, stop being obtuse.


You said "original teams" you have your views I have mine.
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Re: Dirk Obviously Back With Dallas; Reportedly 3 Year Deal 

Post#42 » by Chuck Everett » Thu Jul 3, 2014 9:43 pm

I didn't say original teams. That was another poster. You tried to throw a dig at Kobe when Dirk was traded from the team that drafted him as well. It's alright, take your L.
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Re: Dirk Obviously Back With Dallas; Reportedly 3 Year Deal 

Post#43 » by KI-DW-TT-AB » Thu Jul 3, 2014 9:44 pm

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jtmagic11 wrote:
Kobe is on Charlotte?


Yes, like Dirk is on Milwaukee. Come on man, stop being obtuse.


You said "original teams" you have your views I have mine.
No need to call me a type of triangle. :lol:

Bill Branch, the Hornets' head scout at the time, said that the Hornets agreed to trade their draft selection to the Lakers before picking Bryant. The teams agreed to the trade the day before the draft and the Lakers did not tell the Hornets whom to select until five minutes before the pick was made

http://www.journalnow.com/archives/arti ... 628ec.html

on other hand.

Nelson worked out draft day deals with the Milwaukee Bucks and the Phoenix Suns: the Mavericks wanted Nowitzki and Suns reserve point guard Steve Nash; the Bucks desired muscular forward Robert Traylor, who was projected to be drafted before Nowitzki; and the Suns had set their sights on forward Pat Garrity, who was projected as a low first round pick. In the draft, the Mavericks drafted Traylor with their sixth pick, and the Bucks selected Nowitzki with their ninth and Garrity with their nineteenth pick. The Mavericks then traded Traylor to the Bucks for Nowitzki and Garrity, and they in return traded the latter to Phoenix for Nash.

So. Yeah. Nearly identical.
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Re: Dirk Obiously Re-Signs With Dallas; Reportedly 3 Year De 

Post#44 » by WhateverBro » Thu Jul 3, 2014 9:51 pm

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therealbig3 wrote:Actually, Duncan and KG were both coming off VERY good years when they signed their ontracts (2012)...they were both top 15 players in the league that year too imo.


KG and Duncan were not coming off "VERY" good years when they signed those contracts. Duncan averaged only 14.4 ppg and 9.0 rpg in the two years leading up to his new contract. Kevin Garnett averaged only 15.0 ppg and 8.1 rpg in the three years leading up to his new contract.

They were still good players, but clearly no longer elite. The weren't even the best players on their own team anymore. Duncan's career went on an upswing after the contract, but KG's kept going downhill.

On the other hand, Dirk is still clearly the best player in Dallas. He leads the team with an extremely efficient 21.7 ppg and just narrowly missed the 50/40/90 mark for the season (49.7% FG, 39.8% 3P, 89.9% FT).


Yes, they were. Garnett hadn't looked as good since '09 during the 2012 playoffs. He averaged 19.2 ppg (54.1 TS %),, 10.3 rpg, 1.5 apg, 1.5 bpg, 1.3 spg with 2.2 TOV during the playoffs that year and was clearly Celtics best player that year. Especially when you account for the incredible defense he was playing at that time.

Duncan had a very solid season too in 2012. Both players were clearly still elite players.
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Re: Dirk Obviously Back With Dallas; Reportedly 3 Year Deal 

Post#45 » by Pan Jia Yuan » Thu Jul 3, 2014 9:56 pm

KI-DW-TT-AB wrote:...muscular forward Robert Traylor...

Crazy story: that guy is already dead.
He died on May 11, 2011.
Dirk won his ring on June 12, 2011.
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Re: Dirk Obviously Back With Dallas; Reportedly 3 Year Deal 

Post#46 » by Speedlot » Thu Jul 3, 2014 9:58 pm

Chuck Everett wrote:
jtmagic11 wrote:
Frank Dux wrote:It's amazing that Dirk, Duncan, and Kobe are still on their original teams. Bodes well for their legacy IMO.


Kobe is on Charlotte?


Yes, like Dirk is on Milwaukee. Come on man, stop being obtuse.

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Re: Dirk Obviously Back With Dallas; Reportedly 3 Year Deal 

Post#47 » by sweet daddy » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:10 pm

Very happy about this. I wanted to see him play 3 more years. Should be enough time to get to 30,000 points, which would be fantastic.
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Post#48 » by GeneralNbaFan » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:21 pm

MistyMountain20 wrote:Role players cleaning up this off-season.


Duuuuuuuuuude. You know and I know and 2thehoopand1 knows the truth. Dont do it man.

For all the other posters. Just look at the first comment.
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Re: Dirk Obiously Re-Signs With Dallas; Reportedly 3 Year De 

Post#49 » by pass first » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:29 pm

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MistyMountain20 wrote:Role players cleaning up this off-season.


Duuuuuuuuuude. You know and I know and 2thehoopand1 knows the truth. Dont do it man.

For all the other posters. Just look at the first comment.
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... -$30M-Deal

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Re: Dirk Obviously Back With Dallas; Reportedly 3 Year Deal 

Post#50 » by Dirkules » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:40 pm

therealbig3 wrote:IDK why guys like LeBron and Melo wouldn't want to play for Dallas. Great management, great coaching, great city, and a great player to play with like Dirk.

Dirk this past season still put up 22 ppg on 60% TS...he's still an elite player. And they have a great supporting cast of role players.

PG - Felton
SG - Ellis
SF - LeBron/Melo
PF - Dirk
C - Chandler

That's a SICK starting lineup, even with Felton at PG (and I guarantee he's going to play better in Dallas). And they have a nice bench, with Wright, Crowder, and if they bring them back, Marion and Carter.

I mean, especially with LeBron, if you want a good supporting cast that's going to be around for a while (Wade is going to retire before Dirk at this point, and Dirk is a MUCH better player than Wade right now), and a team that can compete with anyone, Dallas is where it's at, imo.



Not to mention the Mavs are going to be big players in free agency next year when Chandlers contract comes off the books. Dallas native Lemarcus Aldridge will be on the market along with Love and Marc Gasol.

PG-Felton
SG-Ellis
SF-Lebron/Melo
PF-Dirk
C-Aldridge
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Re: Dirk Obviously Back With Dallas; Reportedly 3 Year Deal 

Post#51 » by Ben-N1ce » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:42 pm

Makes no sense. Should have went to Miami.
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Re: Dirk Obiously Re-Signs With Dallas; Reportedly 3 Year De 

Post#52 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:43 pm

Johnny Firpo wrote:
Anyway, this means no Anthony i guess? I mean, figured it was a long shot, but this essentially confirms that it won't happen, right?


Doesn't that leave them with about $14 million in cap space? And don't they have Wright and Felton's expiring $5 million contracts which they could probably dump if they needed to?

That could/would create room.
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Re: Dirk Obviously Back With Dallas; Reportedly 3 Year Deal 

Post#53 » by WangZhiZhiRules » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:59 pm

sweet daddy wrote:Very happy about this. I wanted to see him play 3 more years. Should be enough time to get to 30,000 points, which would be fantastic.


I was just thinking that...I wonder if he can catch Wilt. Barring some huge injury he'll end up 6th, but he needs almost 5,000 points to catch Wilt. Fingers crossed, Dirk is awesome.
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Re: Dirk Obiously Re-Signs With Dallas; Reportedly 3 Year De 

Post#54 » by Johnny Firpo » Thu Jul 3, 2014 11:02 pm

bwgood77 wrote:Doesn't that leave them with about $14 million in cap space? And don't they have Wright and Felton's expiring $5 million contracts which they could probably dump if they needed to?

That could/would create room.


Possibly, my CBA knowledge is basically non-existent. :lol:
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Re: Dirk Obiously Re-Signs With Dallas; Reportedly 3 Year De 

Post#55 » by Dirkules » Thu Jul 3, 2014 11:22 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Johnny Firpo wrote:
Anyway, this means no Anthony i guess? I mean, figured it was a long shot, but this essentially confirms that it won't happen, right?


Doesn't that leave them with about $14 million in cap space? And don't they have Wright and Felton's expiring $5 million contracts which they could probably dump if they needed to?

That could/would create room.


Seem to remember reading somewhere that they had 26.5 mill in cap space after the Chandler trade. That should leave them with 16.5 mill.
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Re: Dirk Obiously Re-Signs With Dallas; Reportedly 3 Year De 

Post#56 » by Jordan45822 » Thu Jul 3, 2014 11:36 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Johnny Firpo wrote:
Anyway, this means no Anthony i guess? I mean, figured it was a long shot, but this essentially confirms that it won't happen, right?


Doesn't that leave them with about $14 million in cap space? And don't they have Wright and Felton's expiring $5 million contracts which they could probably dump if they needed to?

That could/would create room.


$16.5 million if Dirk's first year is $10 million.
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Re: Dirk Obviously Back With Dallas; Reportedly 3 Year Deal 

Post#57 » by SaintofKillers » Fri Jul 4, 2014 12:25 am

KI-DW-TT-AB wrote:
dautjazz wrote:
KI-DW-TT-AB wrote:now that's what I call well played.


Difference is Dirk didn't tell teams he wouldn't play for anybody but Dallas, while Kobe said he'd only play for LA. Quite a difference, but who cares for this thread?

That's quite irrelevant, he said Dirk is with his original team & Kobe wasn't, when both were drafted by a different team then traded prior to signing a contract.


Milwaukee technically didn't "draft" Dirk, it was a pre-arranged deal. Apparently Dallas didn't want to take Dirk that high so they swung a deal with another team just above Boston who was the only other team willing to draft him.

So in essence, Dirk is on his original team. ;)

bwgood77 wrote:
Johnny Firpo wrote:
Anyway, this means no Anthony i guess? I mean, figured it was a long shot, but this essentially confirms that it won't happen, right?


Doesn't that leave them with about $14 million in cap space? And don't they have Wright and Felton's expiring $5 million contracts which they could probably dump if they needed to?

That could/would create room.


$16.5-$17.1 million depending on the starting salary. They could probably get the max back by trading Wright's expiring to another team who needs a backup center, assuming that Melo/LeBron is indeed coming in.

Otherwise they can just split the 16-17k on some mid-tier guys like Deng, Tucker, etc. and keep Wright so as to preserve an estimated $18-million to throw next year.
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Re: Dirk Obviously Back With Dallas; Reportedly 3 Year Deal 

Post#58 » by The4thHorseman » Fri Jul 4, 2014 12:27 am

Nelson worked out draft day deals with the Milwaukee Bucks and the Phoenix Suns: the Mavericks wanted Nowitzki and Suns reserve point guard Steve Nash; the Bucks desired muscular forward Robert Traylor



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Re: Dirk Obviously Back With Dallas; Reportedly 3 Year Deal 

Post#59 » by KI-DW-TT-AB » Fri Jul 4, 2014 12:39 am

SaintofKillers wrote:
KI-DW-TT-AB wrote:
dautjazz wrote:
Difference is Dirk didn't tell teams he wouldn't play for anybody but Dallas, while Kobe said he'd only play for LA. Quite a difference, but who cares for this thread?

That's quite irrelevant, he said Dirk is with his original team & Kobe wasn't, when both were drafted by a different team then traded prior to signing a contract.


Milwaukee technically didn't "draft" Dirk, it was a pre-arranged deal. Apparently Dallas didn't want to take Dirk that high so they swung a deal with another team just above Boston who was the only other team willing to draft him.

So in essence, Dirk is on his original team. ;)

bwgood77 wrote:
Johnny Firpo wrote:
Anyway, this means no Anthony i guess? I mean, figured it was a long shot, but this essentially confirms that it won't happen, right?


Doesn't that leave them with about $14 million in cap space? And don't they have Wright and Felton's expiring $5 million contracts which they could probably dump if they needed to?

That could/would create room.


$16.5-$17.1 million depending on the starting salary. They could probably get the max back by trading Wright's expiring to another team who needs a backup center, assuming that Melo/LeBron is indeed coming in.

Otherwise they can just split the 16-17k on some mid-tier guys like Deng, Tucker, etc. and keep Wright so as to preserve an estimated $18-million to throw next year.


I know, and so was Kobe - viewtopic.php?p=40375964#p40375964
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Re: Dirk Obviously Back With Dallas; Reportedly 3 Year Deal 

Post#60 » by Dunham32 » Fri Jul 4, 2014 12:40 am

The4thHorseman wrote:
Nelson worked out draft day deals with the Milwaukee Bucks and the Phoenix Suns: the Mavericks wanted Nowitzki and Suns reserve point guard Steve Nash; the Bucks desired muscular forward Robert Traylor



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And they became MVPs of the league. Who would have guessed

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