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If I had to pick one of them at their peak season to add to a team now it's pretty close between MJ and Shaq.

The people saying Shaq would struggle in the 4th because he'd be hacked never saw him play at his peak. There's no team in the league now who'd have the bigs to stop him and take the fouls. They'd just foul out before the 4th. He'd absolutely dominate.

MJ at his peak is the best two way player ever though and with his killer instinct he gets the nod.

Jok and LBJ are in a tier below these two.

Jordan no doubt

Drakeem wrote:Putting MJ over Shaq is nuts to me if we're just considering top play. We're not debating careers; we're saying in a hypothetical situation where you take the absolute best version of someone. Peak Shaq is the greatest player the league has seen.

and yet, with another top 3 player in Kobe and a great surrounding cast, he needed the league to rig games in order to beat the Kings and reach the Finals. And when he had the chance to win a championship with a loaded Magic team he got outplayed by Hakeem.

I would include Larry Bird in this poll since he (unlike some others) won three MVPs in a row and went to 4 straight NBA Finals during (5 out of 7 years) his peak. And also Magic Johnson, who won three MVPs and went to the Finals 6 out of 7 years. Their peaks are as impressive as any that have played the game.

JM00n69 wrote:If I had to pick one of them at their peak season to add to a team now it's pretty close between MJ and Shaq.

The people saying Shaq would struggle in the 4th because he'd be hacked never saw him play at his peak. There's no team in the league now who'd have the bigs to stop him and take the fouls. They'd just foul out before the 4th. He'd absolutely dominate.

MJ at his peak is the best two way player ever though and with his killer instinct he gets the nod.

Jok and LBJ are in a tier below these two.

From these 4 great players I think Shaq is a worst option in the 4th and for gamewinning shot. How many gamewinners he had in his career?
Generally he is very good option in the 4th, better than average player for sure.

Michael Jordan runs away with it. Really far away.

Optms wrote:1. Jordan
2. Shaq
3. Lebron

-massive gap-

4. Jokic

Why massive gap?

IMO Joker's peak already are tie with LeBron's overrated peak.

Joker is already better than LeBron peak.

Gregoire wrote:

Optms wrote:1. Jordan
2. Shaq
3. Lebron

-massive gap-

4. Jokic

Why massive gap?

IMO Joker's peak already are tie with LeBron's overrated peak.

Because he's salty. You'd be too if your favourite team lost 11 straight games to the same guy.