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UcanUwill wrote:

dhsilv2 wrote:

jowglenn wrote:Obviously they had to do this, the guy was clearly giving inside info on his own injuries/illnesses to people who were betting on his behalf. It's not at the same level of affecting outcomes like point shaving, but it's something the NBA simply cannot allow to take root in any way. Every player must now know that their career will be OVER if they bet on games or give inside info to proxy bettors.

The bigger problem going forward, as I see it, is that sports betting is still just a question of inside information. Even if a player doesn't intentionally share this info with someone to use in betting, that information is still incredibly valuable. I foresee future scandals where organized criminal groups hack into emails, texts, and computer networks of teams, coaches, medical staff, and players to obtain this insider info to use in betting. No need to hack any bank accounts or financial systems - just get access to a teams' entire email network, and read the notes from the medical staff and coaches on a players' expected return dates, etc, and you can use that for all kinds of betting purposes. This WILL happen, and it's probably going to be hard to spot when it happens - sophisticated groups will use this info smartly and covertly.

Why does it matter? If you're gambling on sports you're a scum bag. Who cares if they get screwed?

How is gambling on sports is being a scumbag. What?

About initial post, rules are placed now and teams need to disclose most of that information before hand, so there is not that much you can hack that at least bookers already wouldn't know.

Also, they are smart. These bets often have many qualifiers now, because they were burned in the oast when public receives info and acts faster than bookies do. Now they just have qualifiers.

reddyplayerone wrote:

dhsilv2 wrote:

firedavidkahn wrote:Beating your wife: A-ok!

Betting: banned for life

Make it make sense

Yeah...it does. One is related to your job. The other just makes you a trash person. Terrible people have jobs. People who hurt their company don't.

Yeah I don't really want to associate or give business to companies that harbor men who beat and abuse women but I guess that's just me!

Tor_Raps wrote:

dhsilv2 wrote:

Tor_Raps wrote:So what about players who do steroids on purpose? Aren't they cheating the game? Why are they allowed to come back?

No. Steroids are doing the right thing and taking care of their body! The anti steroid stuff is just gross.

Hey Chris Benoit... is that you? Lol

dhsilv2 wrote:

firedavidkahn wrote:Beating your wife: A-ok!

Betting: banned for life

Make it make sense

Yeah...it does. One is related to your job. The other just makes you a trash person. Terrible people have jobs. People who hurt their company don't.

Johnny Bball wrote:

Eyeamok wrote:Actually the NBA is probably very happy that Jontay Porter is the guy they get to ban for life. When getting into bed with gambling the NBA had to figure on one day a player would get caught gambling. Porter is not a big name but he has big name association, his brother. So the NBA gets to throw the book at a guy who is not a star and yet has star association. And they get to come off as being very serious about preserving the integrity of the game.

Yep. Lets be clear. Porter didn't gamble or get caught because the NBA decided to get into bed with gambling just because its gambling.

Porter got caught because the Sports Books actually examine bets to see if they are fixed, unlike the NBA, despite any protestations they do. Getting into bed with sports books ensure the NBA now has to actually give a **** and actually care about matches and bets being fixed instead of just hiding it and pretending it never happens. Otherwise sports books will keep making this public to dissuade others.

Johnny Bball wrote:

Eyeamok wrote:Actually the NBA is probably very happy that Jontay Porter is the guy they get to ban for life. When getting into bed with gambling the NBA had to figure on one day a player would get caught gambling. Porter is not a big name but he has big name association, his brother. So the NBA gets to throw the book at a guy who is not a star and yet has star association. And they get to come off as being very serious about preserving the integrity of the game.

Yep. Lets be clear. Porter didn't gamble or get caught because the NBA decided to get into bed with gambling just because its gambling.

Porter got caught because the Sports Books actually examine bets to see if they are fixed, unlike the NBA, despite any protestations they do. Getting into bed with sports books ensure the NBA now has to actually give a **** and actually care about matches and bets being fixed instead of just hiding it and pretending it never happens. Otherwise sports books will keep making this public to dissuade others.

UcanUwill wrote:

dhsilv2 wrote:

firedavidkahn wrote:Beating your wife: A-ok!

Betting: banned for life

Make it make sense

Yeah...it does. One is related to your job. The other just makes you a trash person. Terrible people have jobs. People who hurt their company don't.

Saying that what Porter did is simply "betting" is like saying Hanibal Lechter was simply "cooking"

Amazing how people can't grasp a crime, or they just act silly, because they do not like anything that involves gambling?

UglyBugBall wrote:

NZB2323 wrote:

spanishninja wrote:hey, uh we should ban MPJ as well, "for the integrity of the game"! there is no way to definitively confirm that he didn't profit from his bro's gambling.

Innocent until proven guilty. If my brother commits a crime that doesn’t make me guilty.

dhsilv2 wrote:

Tor_Raps wrote:

dhsilv2 wrote:
No. Steroids are doing the right thing and taking care of their body! The anti steroid stuff is just gross.

Hey Chris Benoit... is that you? Lol

No clue who that is. But I'm guessing you think all steroids are the same thing which is truly sad. Most steroid users (and there are millions and millions of them) are in their 40's, over weight, and just want to feel better day to day and they get them from doctors.

dhsilv2 wrote:

reddyplayerone wrote:

dhsilv2 wrote:
Yeah...it does. One is related to your job. The other just makes you a trash person. Terrible people have jobs. People who hurt their company don't.

Yeah I don't really want to associate or give business to companies that harbor men who beat and abuse women but I guess that's just me!

So don't do anything with any company over 100 employees. Otherwise...you're doing it.

KembaWalker wrote:my favorite thing about your parody account is that you named yourself after one of womens most hated sexist modern books

Rich Rane wrote:

UcanUwill wrote:

Rich Rane wrote:


I get it. I really do, but it's still funny (to me at least) that every sports league is shoving betting in the fans' faces every commercial break (and sometimes even during games), but also trying to take a moral stance here by punishing a player for betting.

They are not punishing player for betting, players can bet, it is legal hobby. He is getting punished for fixing his own games for betting reasons, do you really do not see the difference?

NBA players can't bet on games in the NBA or its partners (WNBA, G-League, Summer League, etc.).

advent11 wrote:Jeopardizing the integrity of the game is the most egregious act you can commit from the league's perspective. Rightfully so.

Tor_Raps wrote:

dhsilv2 wrote:

Tor_Raps wrote:
Hey Chris Benoit... is that you? Lol

No clue who that is. But I'm guessing you think all steroids are the same thing which is truly sad. Most steroid users (and there are millions and millions of them) are in their 40's, over weight, and just want to feel better day to day and they get them from doctors.

The fact you're talking about 40 year olds when we were clearly talking about using them in the sporting sense for an unfair advantage is remarkable. Congrats of creating a sob story out of nowhere lol.

dhsilv2 wrote:

UcanUwill wrote:

dhsilv2 wrote:
Why does it matter? If you're gambling on sports you're a scum bag. Who cares if they get screwed?

How is gambling on sports is being a scumbag. What?

About initial post, rules are placed now and teams need to disclose most of that information before hand, so there is not that much you can hack that at least bookers already wouldn't know.

Also, they are smart. These bets often have many qualifiers now, because they were burned in the oast when public receives info and acts faster than bookies do. Now they just have qualifiers.

What more need be said? Gambling is degenerate behavior. Same with cheating on your wife. Or whatever other social norms we have created in the last 200,000 years that we look at as bad for these reasons. You do you...I don't care. But lets not act like it's acceptable behavior. It's no better than doing drugs to your health. It's just another way to get your brain to push out excess stimulants to feel good in an unhealthy way.

It's an addictive vice that has massive negatives and has no real benefits to society or the individual.

Jeremy Lin 7 wrote:Where's the Lifetime ban for beating your wife?

Johnny Firpo wrote:Quick question, am I wrong to think that if a peak JORDAN would do this, there is no way they receive a lifetime ban, and it's probably a silent ban instead?