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Re: Anybody else think the TWolves match up well with the Nuggets?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:26 am
by NyKnicks1714
Denver won't play like this against Minnesota because their game plan won't be the same. Allowing the Lakers to get off to early leads isn't the flaw people think it is.

Re: Anybody else think the TWolves match up well with the Nuggets?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:29 am
by shrink
shrink wrote:I always thought it’s Minny [who matches up best against DEN - sic] because they are best at negating the things at negating DEN’s match up advantages.

MIN plays Towns on Jokic. Nobody stops Jokic, but Towns length helps reduce his passing ability, and makes Jokic more of a scorer. That allows Gobert to protect the paint while he guards Aaron Gordon. For most teams, that means if they use their PF and C this way, Porter has a big size advantage on his defender. The Wolves though are loaded with quality players 6-9 or taller, with Jaden McDaniels, Naz, and Kyle Anderson. In fact, MIN likely has the size advantage in the match up, because DEN’s bench bigs aren’t as deep as MIN.

Next, Jamal Murray is an under-rated player finally getting his due, and a lot of that credit goes to receiving great passes from Jokic. But MIN is showing that with defenders like McDaniels and Ant (and Nickiel Alexander-Walker), they can really limit perimeter scorers, like Devin Booker.

On the other hand, how does DEN handle Ant? They don’t have Brown this year, and the only player that could maybe defend him is Gordon. However, Gordon is the ONLY option they have to defend Towns size and scoring ability. Towns shoots over smaller guys, and drive past bigger, slower defenders.

I’m not saying MIN is better than DEN, and they should be favored. I am saying that MIN’s team composition (both built by Tim Connelly) create a lot of match up issues for the Nuggets. I wonder if Connelly realized that for the MIN to have high level success, he needed to build a team that could match up with with DEN, and that influenced him to pay such a high price to acquire Gobert?

Re: Anybody else think the TWolves match up well with the Nuggets?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:31 am
by Showdown
Gobert is not that good on 1 on 1 defense and that make them worse against Nuggets because Nuggets game includes Jokić in every play and Edwards is only guy that can invent basket when their gameplan colapse and he need to go wild like in the previous PO series against Nuggets for them to have the chance(KAT have talent to do so but he didn't show he can do it in PO so far) and Reid and NAW could easily be made irelevant by different schemes. Suns were the team that Nuggets players feared the most so Minnesota is doing them a favor by moving them from their road to the finals.

Re: how do the wolves match up with denver?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:32 am
by shrink
Besides the factors you mentioned, MIN has a big advantage in depth, with quality players in Naz Reid, Nickiel Alexander-Walker and Kyle Anderson.

Re: Anybody else think the TWolves match up well with the Nuggets?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:35 am
by GSP
Of all 4 series Jokic played last year his worst was against Wolves. He still balled b/c hes unstoppable but he shot a .575ts that series and he shot .701ts that season and was in that range every other series

Nuggets are also WORSE w.o Brown or Jeff Green. They got 5 bench points tonight and have statistically had a bottom 5 bench all season

Series last year was a possession away from going 6 and Denver had a better team w/ Brown and Jeff and Wolves didnt have Naz Reid OR Jaden Mcdaniels that series. Murray has a far tougher time w/ Jaden guarding him and thats 2 of their top 5 players in general. Naz just won 6moy too.

Wolves in 6 if it happens but Denver can still lose this series


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Re: Anybody else think the TWolves match up well with the Nuggets?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:35 am
by shrink
Showdown wrote:Gobert is not that good on 1 on 1 defense and that make them worse against Nuggets because Nuggets game includes Jokić in every play and Edwards is only guy that can invent basket when their gameplan colapse and he need to go wild like in the previous PO series against Nuggets for them to have the chance(KAT have talent to do so but he didn't show he can do it in PO so far) and Reid and NAW could easily be made irelevant by different schemes. Suns were the team that Nuggets players feared the most so Minnesota is doing them a favor by moving them from their road to the finals.

I don’t think there is a single sentence in this post I agree with.

Wait. It’s only two sentences.

Re: Anybody else think the TWolves match up well with the Nuggets?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:38 am
by Ridicululz
Murray needs to step up. He's had some great clutch moments, but he needs to be more consistent if they want to beat the Wolves

Re: Anybody else think the TWolves match up well with the Nuggets?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:40 am
by Shaka_Zulu
Shrink: that guy started the post with Gobert not good at 1v1 defence. There really was no point reading any further.

Re: Anybody else think the TWolves match up well with the Nuggets?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:43 am
by Lala870
Ridicululz wrote:Murray needs to step up. He's had some great clutch moments, but he needs to be more consistent if they want to beat the Wolves


Dont see it happening. Hes always injured and is highly inconsistent.

Had that bubble series where he dropped 50 or something but it doesnt overshadow his injury/chucking propensity. Between him and MPJ they are glass cannons.

Re: Anybody else think the TWolves match up well with the Nuggets?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:00 am
by BigGargamel
Yes. I'm absolutely terrified of the Wolves. Probably more than any other team in the playoffs, Boston included.

Re: Anybody else think the TWolves match up well with the Nuggets?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:09 am
by OriAr
They've been built to counter Denver so yes.
I think the Wolves beat Denver, and I've seen nothing this postseason to change my opinion.

Re: Anybody else think the TWolves match up well with the Nuggets?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:27 am
by Up-And-Coming
They matchup pretty well but I just don't see it making that big of a difference. KAT is already prone to get in foul trouble and I see Jokic just getting him in foul trouble early. If they put Gobert on Jokic they'll just spam the pick and roll and try to get switches and Aaron Gordon is one of the best cutters for lobs/dunks/offensive boards. Gordon will back-door KAT possibly even moreso than he's done against Lebron.

If you put McDaniels on Gordon, MPJ has been the best shooter/movement shooter so far in the playoffs and has been absolutely knockdown. I suppose Naz Reid is the X-factor.

Re: Anybody else think the TWolves match up well with the Nuggets?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:41 am
by UcanUwill
If I am Nuggets, I would start to worry a bit. If odds were really good, I could easily talk myself into placing a bet on Minny winning, to make it more engaging for me.
Not only they have bigs, but who the hell guards Ant? If Nuggets beat Wolves, I think they ultimately win championship.

Re: Anybody else think the TWolves match up well with the Nuggets?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:16 am
by Peregrine01
If Murray keeps playing like this (absolute dog **** against such defensive stalwarts like Reaves and DLo), the Wolves are gonna win handedly.

Re: how do the wolves match up with denver?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:23 am
by Ugly Duckling
GSP wrote:Wolves will beat Denver if Denver doesnt choke the 3-0 lead which is possible Tbh

They were up 3-0 on Wolves last year and were a possession away from going game 6. Won game 5 by 3pts.

Denver lost alot of depth w.o Bruce Brown and Jeff Green. They got 5 from their bench tonight and they have one of the worst benches in the league in general.

Also last series last year that was a hair from going 6................Wolves didnt have Naz Reid OR Jaden Mcdaniels. Thats 2 of their top 5 players. Murray isnt gonna have the series he had last year w/ Jaden back guarding him. And thats just obvious much more depth for em. And Denver had everyone last year and couldnt guard Ant at all itd be no different this time around.

Wolves in 6 if it happens but dont count out La


if la pulls off this historic feat, lebron is the goat in my book, which says a lot given where i'm from and who my fav player is

Re: how do the wolves match up with denver?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:24 am
by Ugly Duckling
shrink wrote:Besides the factors you mentioned, MIN has a big advantage in depth, with quality players in Naz Reid, Nickiel Alexander-Walker and Kyle Anderson.


i did mention that, but i agree that their depth might put them over the edge as that's where they have the advantage

Re: how do the wolves match up with denver?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 8:30 am
by LaLover11

Re: how do the wolves match up with denver?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:00 am
by nomansland
This series would be the equivalant of the conference finals. Honestly Minnesota worries me, especially if the Nugs try to F around like they are with the Lakers. I think they'll be more serious if they advance, but it'll take everything they have physically and mentally to beat Minnesota.

Re: how do the wolves match up with denver?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:06 am
by Raps in 4
Minny wins easily if Murray keeps playing like crap. If he plays well, then it's a close series, with Denver having the edge.

Re: how do the wolves match up with denver?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:09 am
by MrGoat
Ant and KAT are playing better with more playoff experience this time. I think KAT is the X factor here. If Jamal Murray doesn't find his superstar form that he's had in former playoffs again Denver is potentially vulnerable