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Mr Puddles wrote:

Tor_Raps wrote:

Mr Puddles wrote:
Ofcourse, it still hurts but there's still a big difference between you don't have a first pick and you actually have 4 first round picks.

People also mean that in the sense that you can't trade any of those picks either. The Suns literally have 0 assets and no path for improvement to go from a team that got swept to becoming a champion.

The it's still wrong, because the suns can trade their 2024 and 2031 picks if they wanted to. The other picks can be traded on draft night.

Regardless, that's not what I was responding to. The statement was the suns don't have a pick until 2030, when in fact they have 4 pick including the 2030 pick.

Also, the "no path for improvement" arguments is literally what people were writing here on Realgm about the Wolves and Mavericks 12 months ago.

Mr Puddles wrote:

Tor_Raps wrote:

Mr Puddles wrote:
Except for the ones the Suns have in 2024, 2026 and 2028 ofcourse.

The Wizards have swap rights for all of them, including 2030. Although Wizards suck so bad that they don't gotta worry about swaps for now lol

Even if the swaps convert (they may or may not) that doesn't mean that the Suns don't have a first round pick.

There's kind of a big difference between "you don't have a first round pick for the next 6 years" and "you've got 3 first round picks in the next 6 years, including one in two months - and the other first picks could potentially be lower".

zshawn10 wrote:

Mr Puddles wrote:

Tor_Raps wrote:
The Wizards have swap rights for all of them, including 2030. Although Wizards suck so bad that they don't gotta worry about swaps for now lol

Even if the swaps convert (they may or may not) that doesn't mean that the Suns don't have a first round pick.

There's kind of a big difference between "you don't have a first round pick for the next 6 years" and "you've got 3 first round picks in the next 6 years, including one in two months - and the other first picks could potentially be lower".

I was curious so I looked it up:

Here is where all those picks will be going, and if it’s a swap, what picks the Suns could have
2024-Least favorable of Suns, Grizzlies, or Wizards
2025-Nets (Unprotected)
2026-Least favorable of Suns, Wizards, or Magic
2027-Nets (Unprotected)
2028-Least favorable of Suns, Wizards, or Nets
2029-Nets (Unprotected)
2030-Least favorable of Suns, Wizards, or Grizzlies

G R E Y wrote:

zshawn10 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Sure. It's his fault. Not the roster construction. Someone has to take the fall when you can't trade Beal. Or admit that acquiring him was a mistake. Just one bad decision after another. Then again, he may not want to return.

nzahir wrote:

cpower wrote:

nzahir wrote:KDs lasting legacy is he joined a 73 win team to stop Lebron from getting 6 titles basically

thats a big harsh and Lebron is not getting 6 titles, in fact he would be lucky to win 2 titles in that run. If KD never joined warriors then it would not have been this universe and warriors would still be the favorite to win in 16.

You mean 2017? And no they woldnt have

The 2017 Cavs were even better than the 2016 Cavs

I think they would have beat the 2017 Spurs or 2017 GS without KD. Who knows maybe OKC would have made a different move, but I think we were going to win

I assume Kyrie is staying in 2017-2018 if we win in 2017. And if he still wants out for some reason or say we lose in 2017, I bet the trade is either different or we use the pick to go all in if there isn't a monster team in GS

Mk0 wrote:

zshawn10 wrote:

Mr Puddles wrote:
Even if the swaps convert (they may or may not) that doesn't mean that the Suns don't have a first round pick.

There's kind of a big difference between "you don't have a first round pick for the next 6 years" and "you've got 3 first round picks in the next 6 years, including one in two months - and the other first picks could potentially be lower".

I was curious so I looked it up:

Here is where all those picks will be going, and if it’s a swap, what picks the Suns could have
2024-Least favorable of Suns, Grizzlies, or Wizards
2025-Nets (Unprotected)
2026-Least favorable of Suns, Wizards, or Magic
2027-Nets (Unprotected)
2028-Least favorable of Suns, Wizards, or Nets
2029-Nets (Unprotected)
2030-Least favorable of Suns, Wizards, or Grizzlies

Jesus Christ.. that is.. oof

ScrantonBulls wrote:

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:

CobraCommander wrote:Ant is actually MJ dude just called his team mates his guys- towns and Rudy got more accolades but he is a monster

I think Edwards has a chance to be as great as Jordan if he plays at this level for 10 years.

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Let's pump the breaks here... You're saying that Ant can be as good as the GOAT? He's awesome, but I don't think he'll be in the GOAT discussion?

B-easy wrote:

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:

GSP wrote:Beal is making 50mill next season and has a no trade clause

Their GM should be fired.

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The owner pushed for the trade.

Calinks wrote:

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Calinks wrote:

Read on Twitter

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:

ScrantonBulls wrote:

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:I think Edwards has a chance to be as great as Jordan if he plays at this level for 10 years.

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Let's pump the breaks here... You're saying that Ant can be as good as the GOAT? He's awesome, but I don't think he'll be in the GOAT discussion?

You're likely right.

I was thinking how good was MJ at age 22? I know Jordan ruled from day one. But over the next 10 years, Edwards might have multiple championships.

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zshawn10 wrote:

Mr Puddles wrote:

Tor_Raps wrote:
The Wizards have swap rights for all of them, including 2030. Although Wizards suck so bad that they don't gotta worry about swaps for now lol

Even if the swaps convert (they may or may not) that doesn't mean that the Suns don't have a first round pick.

There's kind of a big difference between "you don't have a first round pick for the next 6 years" and "you've got 3 first round picks in the next 6 years, including one in two months - and the other first picks could potentially be lower".

I was curious so I looked it up:

Here is where all those picks will be going, and if it’s a swap, what picks the Suns could have
2024-Least favorable of Suns, Grizzlies, or Wizards
2025-Nets (Unprotected)
2026-Least favorable of Suns, Wizards, or Magic
2027-Nets (Unprotected)
2028-Least favorable of Suns, Wizards, or Nets
2029-Nets (Unprotected)
2030-Least favorable of Suns, Wizards, or Grizzlies

tmorgan wrote:Suns can do Vogel a favor and fire him. He gets his money and doesn’t have to deal with a roster with 5 SG and no PG, a lack of quality forwards besides KD, and Nurk (who is fine)/Eubanks at center.

Besides, you know KD is going to bitch up a storm until he gets out of there before next year.

zshawn10 wrote:

tmorgan wrote:Suns can do Vogel a favor and fire him. He gets his money and doesn’t have to deal with a roster with 5 SG and no PG, a lack of quality forwards besides KD, and Nurk (who is fine)/Eubanks at center.

Besides, you know KD is going to bitch up a storm until he gets out of there before next year.

I mean the suns players don’t respect Vogel at all so yea

zshawn10 wrote:Leaders in +/- for each first-round series: Rudy Gobert (+62), Jalen Williams (+60), Franz Wagner (+52), Myles Turner (+48), Jrue Holiday (+46), Joel Embiid (+34), Luka Doncic (+32), D'Angelo Russell (+15)

S/O Rudy