2013-14 MVP Discussion Thread Pt III

PhilDMonkey · Post #331 » by **PhilDMonkey** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:59 am

Harden is the third best player in this league now.

therealbig3 · Post #332 » by **therealbig3** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:03 am

PhilDMonkey wrote:Harden is the third best player in this league now.

I would take Curry, personally.

KING JAMES1978 · Post #333 » by **KING JAMES1978** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:53 am

PhilDMonkey wrote:Harden is the third best player in this league now.

I agree he plays great against Top teams.
I wonder if Rockets can do a miracle(Is very tough but you never know) and take the #1 spot at West will Harden steal the MVP from LBJ and KD?
Let's see how he will compete against KD and LBJ next week at the road!

MisterHibachi · Post #334 » by **MisterHibachi** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:59 am

There's just no way both Durant and LeBron lose out on the MVP. Everyone else is just fighting for 3rd place.

EArl · Post #335 » by **EArl** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:07 am

PhilDMonkey wrote:Harden is the third best player in this league now.

But I thought Wade was the best SG in the NBA. So that must mean he's the third best player in the NBA.
All kidding aside, He is arguably the third best player. I would have Paul, Curry and harden in there.

BayInferno · Post #336 » by **BayInferno** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:38 am

I'd consider Griffin at 3rd.

Post #337 » by **Vator** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:21 pm

No way Harden finishes ahead of Durant and James. Just having a little fun here. Dude has been flat out dominant and ridiculously CLUTCH though since the All Star break. Levels I don't even think he can possibly sustain.

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RSCD3_ · Post #338 » by **RSCD3_** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:12 pm

MisterHibachi wrote:There's just no way both Durant and LeBron lose out on the MVP. Everyone else is just fighting for 3rd place.

Yeah not to mention Dwight's been putting up 20/11 in 34.9 minutes since the new year. I think they and maybe griffin and paul cancel each others votes out.

Jon Connor · Post #339 » by **Jon Connor** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:10 am

After a second game in a row with 0 free throws the league has decided that KD will win this year's MVP. After LeBron got fouled 4 times in a row without a call, it became obvious that its a wrap.

ChartFiction · Post #340 » by **ChartFiction** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:41 am

Joao Saraiva wrote:KD with a slight lead right now, but really almost equal.

How is it slight? KD has a lead in literally every area you could have a lead in: stats, team wins, and the media narrative.

KD has a better W/S & W/S 48
KD has a better PER
KD has a better team Win %
KD has a better narrative

The only way he loses this without it being a robbery is if the basedgod decides it to be so.

LBJ-ITALY · Post #341 » by **LBJ-ITALY** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:16 am

Jon Connor wrote:After a second game in a row with 0 free throws the league has decided that KD will win this year's MVP. After LeBron got fouled 4 times in a row without a call, it became obvious that its a wrap.

It has been like that all the season and the last year also!
I will never stop do say it, it is ridiculous how a player that attack the basketball like LBJ does get almost 3FT attempts than a jump shooter as Durant!
Lebron should at least average 10 FTA and that would make him average 29p per game but but but.....

Hero · Post #342 » by **Hero** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:27 am

PhilDMonkey wrote:Harden is the third best player in this league now.

I think it's close between ChrisPaul, Harden and KLove.

It's a shame we can't see Love with good teammates. Kahn really screwed his chances in Minnesota.

36Mafia · Post #343 » by **36Mafia** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:19 am

ChartFiction wrote:
Joao Saraiva wrote:KD with a slight lead right now, but really almost equal.

How is it slight? KD has a lead in literally every area you could have a lead in: stats, team wins, and the media narrative.

KD has a better W/S & W/S 48
KD has a better PER
KD has a better team Win %
KD has a better narrative

The only way he loses this without it being a robbery is if the basedgod decides it to be so.

What in the hell are you talking about? You think KD has a narrative? What is it? The only narrative KD has is that Lebron HAS to have a rival of some sort, a player that the media has to threaten his position to be the number 1 player of all time. Thats it. Lebron is clear cut the MVP every year, however he is only human and the combination of voter fatigue and the fact that he's won back to back championships has perhaps slowed him down slightly.... but he still is producing like a mad man and can definitely win MVP this year and solidify himself as one of the best ever. Not much season left but it's definitely gonna be one hell of a ride.

WhatsMyName · Post #344 » by **WhatsMyName** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:54 am

Hero wrote:
PhilDMonkey wrote:Harden is the third best player in this league now.

I think it's close between ChrisPaul, Harden and KLove.

Isn't the season Blake Griffin has better than all of them?

Chris Paul just missed too much and out of Harden, Love and Griffin, I think Blake plays the best defense.

But regarding the MVP, at this point I would be really surprised if KD doesn't get it, he deserves it imo.

B-easy · Post #345 » by **B-easy** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:22 am

Westbrook is better than harden, lets not forget.

By the way this thread is starting to go off on a tangent.

deneem4 · Post #346 » by **deneem4** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:02 am

Based on play this year...Il rather build a franchise around kevin durant,(without westbrook) instead of lebron james...that helps me decided who mvp should be

ChartFiction · Post #347 » by **ChartFiction** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:58 pm

36Mafia wrote:
ChartFiction wrote:
Joao Saraiva wrote:KD with a slight lead right now, but really almost equal.

How is it slight? KD has a lead in literally every area you could have a lead in: stats, team wins, and the media narrative.

KD has a better W/S & W/S 48
KD has a better PER
KD has a better team Win %
KD has a better narrative

The only way he loses this without it being a robbery is if the basedgod decides it to be so.

What in the hell are you talking about? You think KD has a narrative? What is it? The only narrative KD has is that Lebron HAS to have a rival of some sort, a player that the media has to threaten his position to be the number 1 player of all time. Thats it. Lebron is clear cut the MVP every year, however he is only human and the combination of voter fatigue and the fact that he's won back to back championships has perhaps slowed him down slightly.... but he still is producing like a mad man and can definitely win MVP this year and solidify himself as one of the best ever. Not much season left but it's definitely gonna be one hell of a ride.

Of course he has the narrative. They lost Westbrook and he went absolutely crazy carrying his team. Meanwhile I'm pretty sure Lebron and the Heat are somewhere around .500 this year without Wade. How DOESN'T Durant have the narrative? He has every argument from stats to team record to narrative like I said.

WhatsMyName · Post #348 » by **WhatsMyName** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:30 pm

ChartFiction wrote:Of course he has the narrative. They lost Westbrook and he went absolutely crazy carrying his team. Meanwhile I'm pretty sure Lebron and the Heat are somewhere around .500 this year without Wade. How DOESN'T Durant have the narrative? He has every argument from stats to team record to narrative like I said.

I also think KD deserves it, but why is it that you can only be for or against LBJ/KD, why isn't it possible to say "yeah, both would deserve it but KD a little more"? :-?

Don't act like Wade hasn't missed a good amount of games, it's insane they are fighting for the top seed after going to the Finals 3 times in a row and the jump in PER, WS and the basic stats of KD isn't just based on a higher usage rate.

There are legit points for both sides to argue for winning the trophy and I wouldn't mind either one of them, although KD would be my favorite.

KING JAMES1978 · Post #349 » by **KING JAMES1978** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:20 pm

deneem4 wrote:Based on play this year...Il rather build a franchise around kevin durant,(without westbrook) instead of lebron james...that helps me decided who mvp should be

You must be crazy to say this.
What the hell happened to some people?Durant had a beast mode January and some started to overrated him as ****.
Lebron has by far better FG% than him he has bigger career high (61 pts and even before had 56) than the better scorer Durant (54 pts) and Lebron didn't shot so many FT like Durant.
And Lebron last year had the GOAT moment only player in NBA history to post 30+ points and shoot over 60% for six consecutive games.
And you would rather to built Franchise with Durant?Lol.
Durant starts to be very overrated.
I'm not saying that he doesn't deserve the MVP this year but Lebron can win it too.And Lebron every year is there.And even at Duran's best year Lebron don't leave him to breath.He is again there and he has big chance to win it again.Just sayin.....

SDChargers#1 · Post #350 » by **SDChargers#1** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:57 pm

I know he isn't going to win, but what to people think about Blake Griffin. I think he will be top 3 in MVP voting this year, and if the Clippers somehow get the #1 overall seed, he has a shot a winning it (though still pretty unlikely). Just curious, what you guys think?

Who will be the 2013-14 MVP?