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Post#1 » by Theo Papaloukas » Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:07 am

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1.) Spain
Calderon / Rubio
Navarro / Llull
Fernandez / Mumbru / San Emeterio
Reyes / Garbajosa / Claver
M. Gasol / Vazquez

No Pau Gasol? No problem. Spain more than makes up for it with his brother Marc Gasol and the athletic Fran Vazquez. Rubio and Calderon handle the playmaking duties, while Navarro and Fernandez take control of the scoring on the wings. San Emeterio, Mumbru, Reyes, and Garbajosa bring veteran presence, scoring, and toughness off the bench. Llull, Claver, and Vazquez provide the necessary athleticism needed to combat USA bench players. The most complete team in the tournament.

2.) Team USA
Rondo / Rose / Westbrook
Billups / Curry
Iguodala / Gay / Granger
Durant / Odom
Chandler / Love

Team USA is always a threat to win it all but with this depleted roster, it's far from a lock. Kevin Durant will be the go to guy for this team with Derrick Rose playing second fiddle...after that it's a large drop off. The guard situation is still unclear but it appears that Stephen Curry and Chauncey Billups are locks and will be needed against the zone defenses Team USA will face. Rudy Gay might be the third option that this team needs offensively as well as an athletic spark off the bench. Lamar Odom will need to be consistent and Chandler has to stay healthy for the US to claim gold.

3.) Greece
Diamantidis / Zisis
Spanoulis / Calathes / Vasiliadis
Perperoglou / Printezis
Fotsis / Kaimakaglou
Bourousis / Schortsanitis / Tsartsaris

Known in the past for slowing down the pace of the game and running lots of pick and rolls, new coach Jonas Kazlauskas has this team looking like a fast paced, well oiled offensive machine. Spanoulis will always be the go to guy on this team, while Bourousis and Schortsanitis are two huge bodies in the post that have vastly different skill sets. The mercurial Fotsis is an X factor for this team similar to Lamar Odom, while Tsartsaris is a tough defender and scorer off the bench. Nick Calathes brings some youth and energy off the bench and has the ability to play both guard positions while Vasiliadis is a prolific scorer and the zone buster for this team. Diamantidis has been known for years as one of the premier defenders in Europe and can guard 3 positions effectively, knock down the 3 ball, and handle the playmaking duties - an extremely important piece for this Greek team.

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4.) Brazil
Huertas / Nezinho / Neto
Barbosa / Alex
Marcelinho / Vinicius
Varejao / Guilherme / Becker
Nene / Splitter

In a tournament where several elite big men are missing, Brazil stands out from the pack. Possibly having the best triumvirate of bigs in the tournament, the South American squad also brings excellent perimeter shooting and athleticism to the table. Marcelo Huertas was one of the best point guards in the ACB and a crucial piece to Caja Laboral's ACB title. Barbosa is an electrifying scorer whose speed may only be matched by a few players in the world. Alex Garcia and Marcelo Machado are elite 3 point threats and Marcus Vinicius is a former NBA player who brings athleticism and versatility on the defensive end. Despite coming off the bench, Tiago Splitter will get a ton of playing time and give Spurs fans a preview of what he's capable of when he destroys opposing bench bigs. NBA fans already know what Varejao and Nene are capable of. I rate this team higher than most.

5.) Serbia
Teodosic / Markovic
Tepic / Rasic
Keselj / Bjelica
Velickovic / Macvan / Savanovic
Krstic / Perovic / Radulijca

Last year's surprising Eurobasket finalists and the "OKC Thunder" of the World Championship look primed to make another deep run in the WC. Reigning Euroleague MVP Milos Teodosic is fearless and is an elite shooter and playmaker as well as possessing excellent size for either guard spot at 6'5". Tepic and Bjelica are two tall, young wing players that can play the 1,2,3 giving the Serbian squad excellent ball movement. Velickovic is a young combo forward that is already one of the better forwards in Europe. Nenad Krstic is the elder statesmen at age 27 and is a reliable presence in the post. Milan Macvan, an NBA prospect, is the Serbian version of Kevin Love and it should really interesting to see them go up against each other. Kosta Perovic didn't fare well in the NBA but has proven himself to be a very effective player in Europe. This team is loaded with tons of young talent (Radulijca, Keslj, Bjelica) and extremely schooled in its fundamentals at the helm of the great coach Dusko Ivkovic. Watch out for the young Serbs.

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6.) Argentina
Prigioni / Cantero
Delfino / Quinteros
Nocioni / Jasen / Kammerichs
Scola / L. Gutierrez
Oberto / Gonzalez / J. Gutierrez

Does this aging group of veterans have on last medal left in them? That's what we'll find out in a few weeks time. Returning all the major players from the "golden era of Argentine basketball" minus Manu Ginobili and Walter Herrmann, Argentina looks dangerous and poised to make a run in this year's WC. Prigioni brings a reliable presence at the point guard spot and knows how to control the tempo of the game. Delfino will be relied upon to bring perimeter scoring and toughness, while Scola is always a beast internationally will be the go to guy for this team and might be the best big man in this tournament. Oberto and big Roman Gonzalez will be relied upon to clean up the boards and protect the rim. Hernan Jasen could be a crucial piece for this team if Andres Nocioni isn't at full strength. Quinteros is a lights out shooter and along with Jasen will be vital piece off the bench. Cantero and Leo Gutierrez are both good shooters and will need to knock down shots to relieve the starters some minutes.

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7.) Turkey
Tunçeri / Arslan
Onan / Güler / Buker
Turkoglu / Akyol
Ilyasova / Gönlüm
Asik / Erden / Savas

Lots of "experts" are rating the home town team high and as legitimate contenders but I'm not sold on them. Ersan Ilyasova is the go to guy on this team and is a stud in international play. Hedo has never been spectacular internationally but still holds the key to this team's success as their best playmaker and leader. NBA newcomers, Asik and Erden, as well as the wide Savas will hold down the 5 spot and should prove to be one of the best defensive group of centers in the tournament. Gonlum brings toughness while Ilyasova stretches the floor. The real question here is the guard play. Can Tunceri, Arslan, and Onan keep up with the Rose's, Rubio's, and Spanoulis' of the world? I don't think so.

8.) Slovenia
Lakovic / S. Udrih
Dragic / Becirovic / Klobucar
Nachbar / Jagodnik
Slokar / Zupan
Brezec / Vidmar / Rizvic

Pound for pound, Slovenia may be the best basketball nation in the world but they're missing 3 of their top 5 players as well as several other key rotation players. While Beno Udrih walking out on the team is a big loss, it's nothing compared to the decision of big man Erazem Lorbek to rest this summer. Lakovic is a gunner and essentially a Slovenian Eddie House, while Sani Becirovic is a scorer off the bench and can play both guard positions. Goran Dragic is talented and will need to be consistent for the Slovenians to make a deep run. Most saw how capable he is of putting points on the board during the playoffs against the Spurs. Boki Nachbar is familiar to most Nets fans and will also need to knock down shots and lock down the opposing teams best wing player for Slovenia to be successful. The weakness here lies in the big men, with Brezec being a very mediocre player and Vidmar and Rizvic being very average backups. Slokar can stretch the floor but has been a foul machine in friendlies.

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9.) Croatia
Planinic / Popovic / Stipcevic
Ukic / Kus
Tomas / Delas / Peric
Loncar / Banic
Tomic / Zoric

The Croats are always tough and should be a thorn in side of the top teams once again. Ante Tomic has emerged as one of the best young players in Europe and will be accompanied up front by the tough Kresimir Loncar. Roko Ukic, Zoran Planinic and Marko Tomas are all big guards and will lead the perimeter attack while Popovic and Kus are snipers from the bench.

10.) Puerto Rico
Barea / Rivera
Arroyo / Ayuso / Dalmau
Lee / Vassallo
Sanchez / Balkman / Peavy
Ramos / Santiago

Puerto Rico consistently brings the same brand of fast paced, high scoring, and "AND1" style basketball to the international scene but is hardly viewed as a legitimate contender. It's pretty much the same story this year with an important addition in the form of Renaldo Balkman. Balkman has been a major rebounding and defensive presence as PRs 6th man and helps to solidify their bench. Barea and Arroyo are undersized but can play with any guards in the world. PJ Ramos has emerged as a major offensive option for this team and is an NBA caliber talent. Ricky Sanchez, Carmelo Lee, and Larry Ayuso are great long range shooters but don't really have much else to hurt you with. AD Vassallo could emerge as a major player for this team.
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11.) Australia
Mills / Gibson / Markovic
Newley / Ingles
Worthington / Barlow
Andersen / Nielsen
Maric / Ogilvy / Baynes

Australia suffered a huge blow with the injury to Andrew Bogut, followed by the retirement of CJ Bruton and the withdrawal of Nathan Jawai. Luckily, Partizan stud Aleks Maric has decided to suit up for the Boomers along with Raptors' forward David Andersen and Olympiacos big man Matt Nielsen. The Aussies are very tough in the front court and are headed up by the lightning quick Patty Mills. Ingles, Newley, and Barlow are all good scorers and perimeter threats while Gibson was the defensive player of the year in Australia. They play good team basketball, but don't lack the fire power necessary to go deep in this tournament.

12.) Russia
Bykov / Vyaltsev
Ponkrashov / Fridzon / Zozulin
Shved / Monya / Kurbanov
Khryapa / Vorontsevich
Mozgov / Kaun

Despite missing perennial presences Andrei Kirilenko and JR Holden, Russia is always going to be tough under head coach David Blatt. The new Knick, Mozgov and former Jayhawk, Sasha Kaun form a dynamic and athletic duo at the 5 spot and will be imperative to Russian success. Khryapa is one of the best players in Europe and an excellent defender - the most important player on this team. Vorontsevich is a good shot blocker and a versatile player while Monya isn't that much more of a player than he was in the NBA a few years ago. Guard play is very suspect here with Bykov and Ponkrashov being mediocre at best. Young Alexey Shved will be important and can play the 1, 2 and 3.

13.) Lithuania
Kalnietis / Delininkaitis
Gecevicius / Seibutis / Pocius
Jasaitis / Maciulis
Kleiza / Jankunas / Klimavicius
Javtokas / Andriuskevicius

This squad is essentially the Lithuanian B team + a few other players. Notable absences here include Jasikevicius, Siskauskas, Kaukenas, Songaila, Ilgauskas, Petravicius, D. Lavrinovic, K. Lavrinvovic and Macijaukas. Pretty much the entire starting five is missing. I would have plugged in some of the young prospects such as Motiejunas (cut) and Valanciunas (MVP of the u18) for experience. Kleiza and Gecevicius will be the go to guys for this team. Javtokas and Kalneitis bring athleticism and Jankunas is a skilled 4.

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14.) France
Bokolo / Albicy
Batum /De Colo / Causeur
F. Pietrus / Gelabale
Diaw / Traore / Koffi
Mahinmi / Ajinça

Joakim Noah deciding to not to suit up and Roddy Beaubois breaking his foot have dealt major blows to an already weakened French squad. Bokolo running the point full time is a nightmare. Batum and Diaw should be the main guys on both ends for this team. Ali Traore has always been an elite offensive talent at the 4 and 5 spots and will be a revelation to US fans that haven't seen him play. Spurs fans should keep an eye on Nando De Colo.

15.) Germany
Schaffartzik / Hamann / Gunther
Greene / Staiger
Benzing / Harris / Wysocki
Jagla / Ohlbrecht
Pleiss / McNaughton

Look out for this team in next year's Eurobasket. While talented and containing plenty of youth, Germany isn't ready to do much damage here. NBA prospects on this team incude Robin Benzing, Elias Harris, Tim Ohlbrecht and Tibor Pleiss (already drafted). They're long and athletic but Jagla is the only dependable scorer on this team. Staiger played for Iowa State but left mid season and is a long range gunner for this team. Wait for this team to mature for a year or two and plug in Nowitzki and Kaman and you'll have a very good team.

16.) Canada
Anderson / Kepkay
Rautins / Shepherd
Famutimi / Brown / Doornekamp
Kendall / Landry / Olynyk
Anthony / Sacre

No Nash. No Dalembert. No Bonner. No Magloire. No Carl English. An injury to Jesse Young. What we have is a very depleted Canadian team. Still, Canada features the elite shooter and coach's son, Andy Rautins and Miami Heat center Joel Anthony. Gonzaga players Sacre and Olynyk as well as NBA prospect Kris Joseph should be fun to watch but this team isn't going far despite blowing out China by 20+. Wait a few years when Canada has a lineup of Kevin Pangos, Cory Joseph, Kris Joseph, Andy Rautins, Tristan Thompson, Myck Kabongo, Robert Sacre, Dwight Powell, Kyle Wiltjer, and Joel Anthoy and then we'll be talking about Canada as a legit team.

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17.) Lebanon
Fahed / Mahmoud
Ghaleb / Rustom / Abdelnour
El Khatib / Kanaan
Freije / Fakhredine
Vroman / Pharis / Samaha

Lebanon features two former NBA players in Jackson Vroman and Matt Freije and another guy that would have easily made the NBA in Fadi El Khatib. Michael Jordan wanted El Khatib to join him on the Wizards however his team in Lebanon refused to release him from his contract. Now 31, the powerfully built wing player has settled in Lebanon but still remains a major threat from all over the court. Beyond those 3 and an ok point guard in Rony Fahed, Lebanon is a very weak team and should struggle against good rebounders and athletic players.

18.) China
Wei / Xuefeng
Shipeng / Qingpeng
Yue / Fanghyu
Jianlian / Feng / Lei
Wei / Zhizhi / Zhaoxu

To put it plainly: China's terrible. Without Yao, this team is hopeless. China just got blown out by the Canada roster mentioned above. Liu Wei is the lone guard that is capable of making some plays for this team while Sun has always been very inconsistent. Wang Zhizhi is aging and Yi can only do so much.

19.) Angola
Lutanda / Almeida / Bonifacio
Morais / Geronimo
Ciprano / Fortes
Mingas / Ambrosio
Gomes / Valdelicio / Bunga

The perennial African powerhouses are athletic and play a fast paced 3 guard attack anchored by two talented big man. Mingas and Gomes have admirably battled elite big men from other countries for years however both stand 6'8". Size has and continues to be a problem for Angola. Angola may score an upset or two and keep things close, however they'll be lucky to make it out of the group stage. That being said, they're still fun to watch.

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20.) New Zealand
Tait / Kenney
Penney / Webster
Vukonan / Henry / Anthony
Bradshaw / Abercrombie / Cameron
Pledger / Loe

Sean Marks not suiting up is a big loss for the Tall Blacks who probably didn't have much of a chance to advance even with him. Kirk Penney is by far the best player for this team and it should be fun to see him have huge scoring outbursts for the Kiwi side. Look out for the veteran Pero Cameron, a 6'6" face up power forward who's built more like a rugby player than a basketball player.

21.) Iran
Kamrani / Davari / Davoudi
Afagh / Amini
Nikkah / Akbari
Sahakian / Kazemi / Pouya
Haddadi / Doraghi

Iran has emerged as one of the premier teams in Asia in the last few years, but that doesn't mean much on the global scene. Haddadi and Nikkah are the heart and soul of this team followed by Kamrani at the point. Kazemi was one of the best freshman in C-USA this past season but is still a long ways from impacting the international circuit.

22.) Côte d’Ivoire
Amagou / Moloukou
Craven / Soumahoro / Kiniddin
Abouo / Meite / Wilfrid
N'Diaye / Tape
Kone / Kale

This African squad was surprise of the African tournament and showed very well against Spain going down 85-70 recently. They were down by as few as two points in the fourth quarter before a late run buried them. They've got several players that play professionally in France so they shouldn't be overwhelmed by the competition. Mohammed Kone is an extremely talented 6'11" PF/C that can block shots and hit the 3 and will be most important player for this team.

23.) Jordan
Dahgles / Al-Sous
Wright / Alawadi / Anajjar
Z. Abbas / Soobozkov
I. Abbas / Hadrab
Idais / Al-Maaytah / Al-Khas

I've seen this team play once and the only guy that really stood out is naturalized player Rasheem Wright. Osama "Sam Douglas" Dahgles and Zaid Abbas are two other key guys for this team. Put it this way, if these guys are 0-3 against Qatar, Lebanon, and the Philippines, imagine how badly they're going to fare in the WC.

24.) Tunisia
Kechrid / Laghnej
Maoua / Knioua
Rzig / Slimane / Dhiafallah
Romdhane / Hadidane
Mejri / Ghayaza / Braa

I don't know anything about this team. Oh, did I mention they just lost 77-44 to France? This could get ugly.
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Post#3 » by SKR » Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:31 am

Nice breakdown :)
Hats off to you.
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Post#4 » by saritasbora » Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:43 am

Theo Papaloukas wrote:

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7.) Turkey
Tunçeri / Arslan
Onan / Güler / Buker
Turkoglu / Akyol
Ilyasova / Gönlüm
Asik / Erden / Savas

Lots of "experts" are rating the home town team high and as legitimate contenders but I'm not sold on them. Ersan Ilyasova is the go to guy on this team and is a stud in international play. Hedo has never been spectacular internationally but still holds the key to this team's success as their best playmaker and leader. NBA newcomers, Asik and Erden, as well as the wide Savas will hold down the 5 spot and should prove to be one of the best defensive group of centers in the tournament. Gonlum brings toughness while Ilyasova stretches the floor. The real question here is the guard play. Can Tunceri, Arslan, and Onan keep up with the Rose's, Rubio's, and Spanoulis' of the world? I don't think so.



Keep an eye on Sinan Guler. Excellent player imo. Our guards suck. I don't have much hope for this tournament.
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Post#5 » by peja_the_legend » Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:46 am

Kevin Durant will be the go to guy for this team with Derrick Rose playing second fiddle...after that it's a large drop off


A large drop off compared to what?Even without these two Usa has by far the most talented and deep roster.Put Rudy Gay for example in Brasil and he's a superstar,but in Usa roster he's suddenly a scrub :lol:


Notable absences here include Jasikevicius, Siskauskas, Kaukenas, Songaila, Ilgauskas, Petravicius, D. Lavrinovic, K. Lavrinvovic and Macijaukas


Macijauskas has retired.You could have included Michael Jordan as an Usa absence by the same logic.
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Post#6 » by Theo Papaloukas » Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:51 am

peja_the_legend wrote:
Kevin Durant will be the go to guy for this team with Derrick Rose playing second fiddle...after that it's a large drop off


A large drop off compared to what?Even without these two Usa has by far the most talented and deep roster.Put Rudy Gay for example in Brasil and he's a superstar,but in Usa roster he's suddenly a scrub :lol:


Notable absences here include Jasikevicius, Siskauskas, Kaukenas, Songaila, Ilgauskas, Petravicius, D. Lavrinovic, K. Lavrinvovic and Macijaukas


Macijauskas has retired.You could have included Michael Jordan as an Usa absence by the same logic.


A large drop off relative to the rest of the US team. What these guys do in the NBA doesn't necessarily translate to international ball as seen time and time again.

Macijauskas retired 2 months ago...nice one
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Post#7 » by Genjuro » Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:58 am

Excellent ranking.

I would put Serbia over Brazil, because I see the Balkans as a much more organized and steady team. They are big, physical and talented, and they have a very clear view on what they have to do on court. Meanwhile the Brazil swingmen are extremely inconsistent, being able to shoot the lights out, but also capable of becoming a real black hole in the offense (I hope they focus on playing with their bigs).

Also, I would point out that I expect De Colo to be the main PG for France, and therefore I think they will fare slightly better than they are ranked there (I agree about Bokolo being a nightmare), although it's true they have a similar level to Lithuania's, Russia's or Australia's, IMO.
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Post#8 » by Rasho Brezec » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:07 am

I'd put Serbia ahead of Greece, too.
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Post#9 » by blkout » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:14 am

Awesome thread. I can't wait for the WC to start, it feels like the whole process has been dragging on forever.
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Post#10 » by Saber » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:07 am

How is the U.S not number one? Your telling me that a starting line up of Calderon, Navarro, Fernandez, Reyes, M. Gasol is better than a starting line up of Rose, Durant, Billups, Odom and Chandller? Team USA also has the deeper bench too. Even if this year's USA team pales in comparison to the one before it, we are still the undisputed favorite to win the Championship.
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Post#11 » by driver » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:19 am

Saber wrote:How is the U.S not number one? Your telling me that a starting line up of Calderon, Navarro, Fernandez, Reyes, M. Gasol is better than a starting line up of Rose, Durant, Billups, Odom and Chandller? Team USA also has the deeper bench too. Even if this year's USA team pales in comparison to the one before it, we are still the undisputed favorite to win the Championship.


And here's USA's in 2006: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_FIBA_ ... squads#USA
They won it then, they are "the team to beat" to sort of say. I wouldn't worry about the rankings too much. It's up to the younger USA squad to prove they can be just as talented as the Olympics' one.
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Post#12 » by Theo Papaloukas » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:24 am

Saber wrote:How is the U.S not number one? Your telling me that a starting line up of Calderon, Navarro, Fernandez, Reyes, M. Gasol is better than a starting line up of Rose, Durant, Billups, Odom and Chandller? Team USA also has the deeper bench too. Even if this year's USA team pales in comparison to the one before it, we are still the undisputed favorite to win the Championship.


Talent is enough to win. Until I see the US team play a few preparation games, I'm not going to move them up or down.

Spain's been playing with the same core for years and gave a full strength US team with Kobe, Lebron, Wade, etc. a tough match a few years ago in the Olympics.

Marc Gasol is better than Chandler and Odom typically has trouble against guys like Felipe Reyes. Fran Vazquez is better than JaVale McGee as well. The US bigs will have to perform at a high level to win.
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Post#13 » by linged » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:26 am

The 2006 USA team was full of NBA stars and still lost in the semifinal. This years version is rather less prolific and it is thus fully acceptable and realistic to rank them at 2.

USA hasn't won a world championship for like 20 years?, and it took all the best players to beat Spain in a hardfought game in the olympic final.

It is well possible that USA wins the title, but they surely do not have to be ranked number 1 before the tournament considering their miserable results even with teams full of NBA stars.
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Post#14 » by Genjuro » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:41 am

Superior individual (NBA) talent doesn't translate so easily into superior team at the international stage. History has shown us that the US Team needs a very strong squad to win it all, and this year isn't (compared to past teams). Chemestry and experience at FIBA top stage are two other big concerns.

Anyway, to be ranked second also means that the US Team would enjoy pretty good chances of getting away with the championship.
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Post#15 » by blkout » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:57 am

The US are pretty terrible inside (Chandler/McGee... ugh) and neither Rose/Westbrook are good outside shooters. They'll probably win, but it's not really a lock.
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Post#16 » by dream_catcher_9 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:26 pm

BLKOUT wrote:The US are pretty terrible inside (Chandler/McGee... ugh) and neither Rose/Westbrook are good outside shooters. They'll probably win, but it's not really a lock.


Rose is a great mid range shooter from 16-23 feet. Since the 3 point line is much shorter in International competition he is a great outside shooter for this competition. My question is this....

When the USA have Rose and Durant in the game how do you slow them down? If you play zone, then they will just shoot over you, if you play tight man then Rose will penetrate and either create for himself or kick it back out to the open shooters. Teams HAVE to double Rose or else I don't see how anyone can stop the USA. I'm not trying to be a homer either, if there is ways to stop Rose and Durant ill be glad to hear it.
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Post#17 » by blkout » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:33 pm

dream_catcher_9 wrote:
BLKOUT wrote:The US are pretty terrible inside (Chandler/McGee... ugh) and neither Rose/Westbrook are good outside shooters. They'll probably win, but it's not really a lock.


Rose is a great mid range shooter from 16-23 feet.


He shoots 44% from there. That's ok, not great. Especially when you consider the defensive structure he'll face shooting from 16-23 feet will be different in the Olympics than it will in the NBA, because the three point line is closer so the defenders will be less spread out than they would while he's playing with the Bulls.

When the USA have Rose and Durant in the game how do you slow them down? If you play zone, then they will just shoot over you, if you play tight man then Rose will penetrate and either create for himself or kick it back out to the open shooters. Teams HAVE to double Rose or else I don't see how anyone can stop the USA. I'm not trying to be a homer either, if there is ways to stop Rose and Durant ill be glad to hear it.


How did they stop Tim Duncan and Allen Iverson in 2004?
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Post#18 » by dream_catcher_9 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:37 pm

BLKOUT wrote:
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BLKOUT wrote:The US are pretty terrible inside (Chandler/McGee... ugh) and neither Rose/Westbrook are good outside shooters. They'll probably win, but it's not really a lock.


Rose is a great mid range shooter from 16-23 feet.


He shoots 44% from there. That's ok, not great. Especially when you consider the defensive structure he'll face shooting from 16-23 feet will be different in the Olympics than it will in the NBA, because the three point line is closer so the defenders will be less spread out than they would while he's playing with the Bulls.

When the USA have Rose and Durant in the game how do you slow them down? If you play zone, then they will just shoot over you, if you play tight man then Rose will penetrate and either create for himself or kick it back out to the open shooters. Teams HAVE to double Rose or else I don't see how anyone can stop the USA. I'm not trying to be a homer either, if there is ways to stop Rose and Durant ill be glad to hear it.


How did they stop Tim Duncan and Allen Iverson in 2004?


well Tim Duncan is a totally different type of scorer than Durant, and while Iverson has similarities to Rose, Rose is much stronger and can take contact when driving much better.

With Durant, he has shown the ability to shoot right over people as well as penetrate if guarded by bigger guys. Since he will be playing mostly the 4 spot(he was in practice) it's going to be tough for International 4's to defend him with any success. Now on the other end he might struggle, although his length will help.
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Re: World Championship Power Rankings 

Post#19 » by Jimmy76 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:37 pm

BLKOUT wrote:
dream_catcher_9 wrote:
BLKOUT wrote:The US are pretty terrible inside (Chandler/McGee... ugh) and neither Rose/Westbrook are good outside shooters. They'll probably win, but it's not really a lock.


Rose is a great mid range shooter from 16-23 feet.


He shoots 44% from there. That's ok, not great. Especially when you consider the defensive structure he'll face shooting from 16-23 feet will be different in the Olympics than it will in the NBA, because the three point line is closer so the defenders will be less spread out than they would while he's playing with the Bulls.

name some guards that shoot a better percentage from there in volume

Kobe and Nash are the only ones I can think of and they're two of the best mid range shooters the games ever seen
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Re: World Championship Power Rankings 

Post#20 » by blkout » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:40 pm

Jimmy76 wrote:name some guards that shoot a better percentage from there in volume

Kobe and Nash are the only ones I can think of and they're two of the best mid range shooters the games ever seen


Raja Bell, Kevin Martin. Not many guards take that many shots from there.
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