Synergy's top 5 worst defenders in the NBA

Alyosha12 · Post #61 » by **Alyosha12** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:58 am

Granted i don't see a whole lot of NBA games because of the time difference... But if i had to single out one player as the worse defender i have seen it would have to be Amar'e. I swear he does more harm then good when on defense. Sometimes it would be better if the team played with 4 players. Especially defending the p'n'r. I saw him a few times bumping his own player lol...

Anyway here is a nice example f him playing defense lol:

Dupp · Post #62 » by **Dupp** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:51 am

Don Draper wrote:
CB4MiamiHeat wrote:meh I cant trust this.

Ive seen Boobie Gibson and Batum defend .. theyre far from the worst.

The possessions you watched <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< the possessions they watch

cb4 is right

doctorfunk · Post #63 » by **doctorfunk** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:32 am

wow they catalog every possession; so what if the system itself is flawed like hell
there are worse defenders than those mentioned here and really idc what stupid stat
there is to back it up it's just wrong.

stephcurry4mvp · Post #64 » by **stephcurry4mvp** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:46 am

Where is stephen jackson he is the sole reason the bobcats constantly get dominated. the mans only defense would be a glock to the head to his defender while wearing his bloods colours after the game

monopoman · Post #65 » by **monopoman** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:49 am

Yeah this system punishes guys that are forced to play the toughest players on the opposing team straight up.

Where is..

Steve Nash
Kevin Love
Stephen Jackson
Derrick Rose

These guys may be put on the easiest assignment defensively so they look okay on defense even if they play lackluster defense but that shouldn't exclude them by default.

Yeah poor Batum guarding guys like LBJ/Wade or Kobe 1on1 tough to play that %#$% man on man defense.

Wavy Q · Post #66 » by **Wavy Q** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:54 am

doesnt synergy sports cost in the thousands to see?

Sky_Knicks · Post #67 » by **Sky_Knicks** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:16 pm

No Knicks players??

illiance · Post #68 » by **illiance** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:33 pm

JR Smith is actually a pretty decent defender, he just gambles too much at times. He checked Kobe pretty good in the WCF.

I don't see any front-court players. David Lee is by far the worst defender in the NBA, there's not much debate.

Wizenheimer · Post #69 » by **Wizenheimer** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:39 pm

any worst defender list that doesn't have Jose Calderon on it is flawed

and LOL at the typical reaction of a lot of GB posters giving some assertion credibility because it fits their bias. Until we cans see just what criteria and data was used to formulate this ranking, it's just noise.

Whateva · Post #70 » by **Whateva** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:43 pm

Batums is actually a GOOD defender. That synersgy sucks

droponov · Post #71 » by **droponov** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:45 pm

Jay From LA wrote:doesnt synergy sports cost in the thousands to see?

Not even hundreds.

I wouldn't put much stock into this anyway. You watch clips of guys defending and it's evident there's a huge difference between them. I always recommend people to take some minutes and go through the clips, see their assignments, see how are they being scored on, the kind of help they get, etc. Batum is an above average defender.

panthermark · Post #72 » by **panthermark** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:46 pm

monopoman wrote:Yeah this system punishes guys that are forced to play the toughest players on the opposing team straight up.

Where is..

Steve Nash
Kevin Love
Stephen Jackson
Derrick Rose

These guys may be put on the easiest assignment defensively so they look okay on defense even if they play lackluster defense but that shouldn't exclude them by default.

Yeah poor Batum guarding guys like LBJ/Wade or Kobe 1on1 tough to play that %#$% man on man defense.

Something is wrong with your list dude...

Bskey · Post #73 » by **Bskey** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:04 pm

Batum looks bad because he's always put on the other team's toughest guy and is never hidden on defense and rarely gets the help of a double team. He's had games where a star player torches him, but then he's also played good, and often times clutch D on everyone from Deron Williams to Dirk Nowitzki.

And really people, still mocking Portland fans about the Pippen thing? The comparison was only made because of his body type, and was a sentiment shared by MICHAEL JORDAN. So Bulls fans, you may want to chill out with the mocking.

witnessraps · Post #74 » by **witnessraps** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:14 pm

TRaps wrote:wth? no jose calderon, according to realgmers calderon is the worst defender they have ever seen to set foot in the NBA!

lol some believe he might be the worst defender in the ymca as well

HTown_TMac · Post #75 » by **HTown_TMac** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:19 pm

Didnt read the whole thread, but no Kevin Martin?

actrived · Post #76 » by **actrived** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:23 pm

elbowthrower wrote:
actrived wrote:
CB4MiamiHeat wrote:meh I cant trust this.

Ive seen Boobie Gibson, JR Smith and Batum defend .. theyre far from the worst...id even say theyre above average.

I'm shocked that JR Smith knows what defense is. I love his offensive ability (minus the often ridiculous shot taking), but he is a lacking defender at best. His energy on the defensive end makes Carlos Boozer's defensive effort look Ginobili-esque.

If you had said that about JR 3, maybe even 2 years ago I'd agree. But not lately. In fact JR's one of the few Nuggets that's been playing hard on both ends of the floor this year.

I can respect this post. Politely shutting me down, haha.

I haven't been able to watch most of the nuggets games, only a few here and there. I guess I was judging based on past performance, not what he has done this season.

TWInsider · Post #77 » by **TWInsider** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:28 pm

John Doe [MIN] wrote:How many more defensive possessions does Jonny Flynn need before he'll qualify? Actually, he may have found a loophole to the system by frequently being so far away from the man he was supposed to be guarding that Synergy wouldn't register the scorer as being guarded by Jonny Flynn.

LMAO. Great stuff.

Oh and what is with K-Love? I was looking for him on this list. He sometimes seems to not even try.

LOL on Batum tho, guy got clowned.

Deus · Post #78 » by **Deus** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:38 pm

You can't base defense on stats. You watch the player. Your eyes can tell you more about a player's defense than stats.

To me, the worst defenders are the lazy players who don't give a [EDIT: language]
Players like Melo, or Rose, or Durant.

Starkiller · Post #79 » by **Starkiller** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:43 pm

Mike Dunleavy has to be on this list. Otherwise it's just pure hogwash.

Edrees · Post #80 » by **Edrees** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:11 pm

No one on the knicks or warriors? lol